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    h22a cutout point

    Are there any H22a's with a cut out before 7,000 rpm
    because mine reaches it cut out at 6,500rpm.

    I thought they were all 7,200 plus.

    my car is a us wagon with h22a 5speed conversion done previously before I bought it.

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    got any check lights showing? is it hitting vtec?
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    yeah hitting vtec, check light 12 egr valve lift sensor(online its says it doesn't put it into limp mode)

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    is that the auto revlimit?
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    It has aftermarket gauges but they redline at 6,500 rpm. I've never heard of a h22a cutting out at 6,500. unless its the factory f22b ecu running it. I'll have to check.

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    bro you might of using the auto ECU man. auto ECU will cut off around 6500rpm even though you have changed the gearbox to manual but it will still running on the same ECU. change your ecu or borrow your friend and see.
    Maxxi DC2 si vtec is from 4500->8500rpm ?0.0 holly shit.. lolx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxi
    bro you might of using the auto ECU man. auto ECU will cut off around 6500rpm even though you have changed the gearbox to manual but it will still running on the same ECU. change your ecu or borrow your friend and see.
    h22a auto cutout at 6500? HELL NO!!!!!

    mine revs to just under 8000rpm all day everyday no worries!!

    that was the same with an auto sir sedan i had as well, 8000rpm piece of piss!
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    thanks for all the replys, I'll go check the ecu later today

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    My friend with a H22A had the same problem, every now and again the rev limit would change to 6500, but the car would still run fine. He never fixed it, it just went away lol. But check for codes on the ECU. Have you changed anything on the car lately?

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    are you thrashing the car without warming it up first? its not uncommen for h22a to cut out in earlier revs while the engine is still cold, must be something to do with the ecu trying to protect the engine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirwags_np

    h22a auto cutout at 6500? HELL NO!!!!!

    mine revs to just under 8000rpm all day everyday no worries!!

    that was the same with an auto sir sedan i had as well, 8000rpm piece of piss!
    Which model SiR? Haven't tried taking it past the redline (7,400) so would be good if it will rev to 8,000 so that the revs are above 5,000 in the next gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncanb
    Quote Originally Posted by sirwags_np

    h22a auto cutout at 6500? HELL NO!!!!!

    mine revs to just under 8000rpm all day everyday no worries!!

    that was the same with an auto sir sedan i had as well, 8000rpm piece of piss!
    Which model SiR? Haven't tried taking it past the redline (7,400) so would be good if it will rev to 8,000 so that the revs are above 5,000 in the next gear.
    i have a uswagon sir auto which i have to revlimit in 1st to get close to vtec in 2nd. according to the rev counter it is just before 8000rpm.
    the only problem i have had is an appetite for crank pulleys (they dont like bouncing of the limiter!)

    i had a sedan sir accord auto and still had to revlimit it, but was way better with the 200kg less weight the sedans sport

    when i drove a manual sir sedan, i just bout shit myself! i drove it like my wagon, revlimited 1st grabbed second and it just baked all the way to the revlimit!
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    yeah I had a 98 sir wagon auto, but its a snail compared to this even with the low cutout. I've looked at the Ecu and Its a POF (accord h22a Sir). But when I researched on the internet I found nobody likes these ECU as the prelude p13 are plug and play where as this accord POF requires a6 pin and a11 pin to be swapped. o2 sensor and egr sensor. I'll check later if they have been swaped already. I've cleared the code(12) but was unable to take it for a drive today. will have to check tomorrow after work to see if it has been fixed. If not I'll check the 2 wires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirwags_np
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxi
    bro you might of using the auto ECU man. auto ECU will cut off around 6500rpm even though you have changed the gearbox to manual but it will still running on the same ECU. change your ecu or borrow your friend and see.
    h22a auto cutout at 6500? HELL NO!!!!!

    mine revs to just under 8000rpm all day everyday no worries!!

    that was the same with an auto sir sedan i had as well, 8000rpm piece of piss!
    well if you running on D4 then you will cut out around 6500rpm but if you switch to D1 then it will maybe reach the red line. what ever the redline man but you will not get any power from it. it just gonna ruin your engine and burn it up. :twisted: go hard man.. my friend blown up his gearbox a few times already cos he is stupid. who would want to rev an auto to 8000rpm? it would be f**CKING STUPID. just go get a manual man. if a manual SiR accord redline is at 7200rpm. maybe if you are lucky you can get it up to 7800rpm. bigger Engine has lower redline.

    but hey bro, congrate that your one can do 8000rpm pissed easy.. and hope your engine and gearbox will survive in the next few times you do it. goodluck
    Maxxi DC2 si vtec is from 4500->8500rpm ?0.0 holly shit.. lolx

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXnut
    yeah I had a 98 sir wagon auto, but its a snail compared to this even with the low cutout. I've looked at the Ecu and Its a POF (accord h22a Sir). But when I researched on the internet I found nobody likes these ECU as the prelude p13 are plug and play where as this accord POF requires a6 pin and a11 pin to be swapped. o2 sensor and egr sensor. I'll check later if they have been swaped already. I've cleared the code(12) but was unable to take it for a drive today. will have to check tomorrow after work to see if it has been fixed. If not I'll check the 2 wires.
    So it's still running the US wagon ECU, not the Prelude ECU? If the engine is out of a Prelude, shouldn't it have that ECU?

    I don't know about the US Accord SiR, but the JDM has a F20B, not H22A. And it's not redlined at 6500!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirwags_np
    Quote Originally Posted by duncanb
    Quote Originally Posted by sirwags_np

    h22a auto cutout at 6500? HELL NO!!!!!

    mine revs to just under 8000rpm all day everyday no worries!!

    that was the same with an auto sir sedan i had as well, 8000rpm piece of piss!
    Which model SiR? Haven't tried taking it past the redline (7,400) so would be good if it will rev to 8,000 so that the revs are above 5,000 in the next gear.
    i have a uswagon sir auto which i have to revlimit in 1st to get close to vtec in 2nd. according to the rev counter it is just before 8000rpm.
    the only problem i have had is an appetite for crank pulleys (they dont like bouncing of the limiter!)

    i had a sedan sir accord auto and still had to revlimit it, but was way better with the 200kg less weight the sedans sport

    when i drove a manual sir sedan, i just bout shit myself! i drove it like my wagon, revlimited 1st grabbed second and it just baked all the way to the revlimit!
    Yeah, the autos need that extra gear. But there weren't a lot of 5 speed autos around in 1998.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxi
    Quote Originally Posted by sirwags_np
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxi
    bro you might of using the auto ECU man. auto ECU will cut off around 6500rpm even though you have changed the gearbox to manual but it will still running on the same ECU. change your ecu or borrow your friend and see.
    h22a auto cutout at 6500? HELL NO!!!!!

    mine revs to just under 8000rpm all day everyday no worries!!

    that was the same with an auto sir sedan i had as well, 8000rpm piece of piss!
    well if you running on D4 then you will cut out around 6500rpm but if you switch to D1 then it will maybe reach the red line. what ever the redline man but you will not get any power from it. it just gonna ruin your engine and burn it up. :twisted: go hard man.. my friend blown up his gearbox a few times already cos he is stupid. who would want to rev an auto to 8000rpm? it would be f**CKING STUPID. just go get a manual man. if a manual SiR accord redline is at 7200rpm. maybe if you are lucky you can get it up to 7800rpm. bigger Engine has lower redline.

    but hey bro, congrate that your one can do 8000rpm pissed easy.. and hope your engine and gearbox will survive in the next few times you do it. goodluck
    over 12 months of revlimiting and still goin strong.

    if you have drivin a h22a uswagon you will realise the only way to get close to vtec in 2nd gear is to let it revlimit in 1st. otherwise it takes a longtime to hit vtec.

    yes a manual is on the way, but that wont stop me revving it :twisted:

    hell a spare h22a is under $1000 so who cares

    you were talking about d1-d4 is that the gear? if so you will find that the gear change point is approx 7200rpm NOT 6500rpm.

    i have drivin atleast 3 sir auto's and they were all the same, have you?
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    my old but newer us wagon also reaches redline(7,200 rpm) in d4.

    I think whoever did the conversion sourced a manual CD accord h22a and swapped everything including center console.

    Also the change over year for accord wagons is over two years. I had a 98 cf2 which is the 97 CE shape with h22a, and I also saw a 97 wagon which is the proper 98 CFwhatever(4 maybe) shape.

    Reading online it seems that the accord H22a ecu's for some reason swapped two pins compared to all the other ODB1 ecus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXnut
    my old but newer us wagon also reaches redline(7,200 rpm) in d4.

    I think whoever did the conversion sourced a manual CD accord h22a and swapped everything including center console.

    Also the change over year for accord wagons is over two years. I had a 98 cf2 which is the 97 CE shape with h22a, and I also saw a 97 wagon which is the proper 98 CFwhatever(4 maybe) shape.

    Reading online it seems that the accord H22a ecu's for some reason swapped two pins compared to all the other ODB1 ecus.
    I'm not an expert, but recently bought a 1999 CH9 Accord wagon. This is the SiR with a H23A engine, which is a very different beast to the H22A. (still 200 hp but think torque) But there were no JDM SiR wagons until 1999 - the earlier wagons ( 97-98 ) all had the 2.3 SOHC VTEC.

    Might just see what it revs to in D4 while the Auckland roads are still pretty quiet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncanb
    Quote Originally Posted by CRXnut
    my old but newer us wagon also reaches redline(7,200 rpm) in d4.

    I think whoever did the conversion sourced a manual CD accord h22a and swapped everything including center console.

    Also the change over year for accord wagons is over two years. I had a 98 cf2 which is the 97 CE shape with h22a, and I also saw a 97 wagon which is the proper 98 CFwhatever(4 maybe) shape.

    Reading online it seems that the accord H22a ecu's for some reason swapped two pins compared to all the other ODB1 ecus.
    I'm not an expert, but recently bought a 1999 CH9 Accord wagon. This is the SiR with a H23A engine, which is a very different beast to the H22A. (still 200 hp but think torque) But there were no JDM SiR wagons until 1999 - the earlier wagons ( 97-98 ) all had the 2.3 SOHC VTEC.

    Might just see what it revs to in D4 while the Auckland roads are still pretty quiet...
    Plenty of CF2 (97-98ce JDM Sir models with H22a) around. Don't be fooled about the "US wagon". The Body may have been made in the US, but from what I understand (maybe PRF could correct) the shells were shipped to Japan and then assembled with the H22a engine(US didn't get any H22a models).

    http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/ho..._wagon/1996_9/

    I had a 98 Ce model even though the already started bringing out the cf models a year earlier(I think because they didn't have a SIR in their lineup at that stage only 2.3 as you said)

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    And back on topic.

    no codes nice and warm, and car still makes only 6,800rpm.

    The US guys that have done the conversion all seem to have trouble with their P0F(accord) ecus and as soon as they get the P13(prelude) ecu all the troubles apparently go away. But still will try swapping those two wires when I get a chance. And probably going to look for a P13 one day as well when the finances get a bit higher(sell my EG6).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXnut
    Quote Originally Posted by duncanb
    Quote Originally Posted by CRXnut
    my old but newer us wagon also reaches redline(7,200 rpm) in d4.

    I think whoever did the conversion sourced a manual CD accord h22a and swapped everything including center console.

    Also the change over year for accord wagons is over two years. I had a 98 cf2 which is the 97 CE shape with h22a, and I also saw a 97 wagon which is the proper 98 CFwhatever(4 maybe) shape.

    Reading online it seems that the accord H22a ecu's for some reason swapped two pins compared to all the other ODB1 ecus.
    I'm not an expert, but recently bought a 1999 CH9 Accord wagon. This is the SiR with a H23A engine, which is a very different beast to the H22A. (still 200 hp but think torque) But there were no JDM SiR wagons until 1999 - the earlier wagons ( 97-98 ) all had the 2.3 SOHC VTEC.

    Might just see what it revs to in D4 while the Auckland roads are still pretty quiet...
    Plenty of CF2 (97-98ce JDM Sir models with H22a) around. Don't be fooled about the "US wagon". The Body may have been made in the US, but from what I understand (maybe PRF could correct) the shells were shipped to Japan and then assembled with the H22a engine(US didn't get any H22a models).

    http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/ho..._wagon/1996_9/

    I had a 98 Ce model even though the already started bringing out the cf models a year earlier(I think because they didn't have a SIR in their lineup at that stage only 2.3 as you said)
    Thanks. I assumed the CF2 was a RHD US wagon. The CF6 (SOHC VTEC) came out in 1997, so I'm surprised that there are 98 CF2 wagons around. But making sense of JDM models can be a mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXnut
    And back on topic.

    no codes nice and warm, and car still makes only 6,800rpm.

    The US guys that have done the conversion all seem to have trouble with their P0F(accord) ecus and as soon as they get the P13(prelude) ecu all the troubles apparently go away. But still will try swapping those two wires when I get a chance. And probably going to look for a P13 one day as well when the finances get a bit higher(sell my EG6).
    Sorry for hijacking your thread. ops:

    Yeah, I'd guess the Prelude ECU would solve this. SH16 was a bit busy earlier, and now I've probably had too many glasses of wine to be exploring rev limits...

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    Okay, I removed the white faced dials and happily found the original dials underneath(but for f22b redline). car redlines now at 7,000rpm. a bit better, hopefully with a p13 prelude ecu I'll rev a little higher.
    Does anyone know the redline for a CD-6 accord SIR???

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    Re: h22a cutout point

    sorry to revive such an old thread but i have a similar issue with my manual honda prelude 1992 h22a1 bb1. the rev limit is at 6500rpm all the time warm/cold always no CELs only couple mods done include bypassing the idle control valve and removed the cruise control unit but was still having the same rev limit before the mods. the ecu is a p13 not sure about the other numbers gotta go look. hits vtec as well ( set to 5500rpm) has a spoon vc-3e vtec controller hooked up to a 'rocknbeat' box thingy then to the ecu. Only problem i know with the engine is that it leaks a little oil not too much but enough for an oil spot under the car just after a month. Done a full engine flush/oil change etc. Anyone have ideas im thinking maybe the oil pressure sensor could be clogged up or the engine has bad seals causing low oil pressure?

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