Thread: Any difference between DC2 96' ITR & non R hubs?

Is there any difference at all between 1996 ITR hubs vs the non type R DC2?
Both running the same 262mm brakes?

I know the later model Type R uses 5 stud and 282mm brakes, but wanting to know the difference of the 262mm ones if there is any...

Nope they are different, hence why doing a prelude brake conversion on the two require different things.

Non R requires approx 3mm shaven off the caliper, R requires the caliper to be spaced 1mm (I know the prelude conversion thing is irrelevant but an example of the differences)

So the type R hubs have 3-4mm more track than the non R variants

Great thanks guys got all the info I need

Im guessing you want one so you can make a bolt on brake kit for type R's ?

I have a Type R 4x114.3 hub already.
Just wanting to know the difference as people haved asked for non R upgrades. Looks like i'll just get a non R hub as well.

And yes trying to build up my catalog of brake kits

Originally Posted by Logger

A 96 spec application would be excellent, I had to bring my Wilwood kit in from the UK, and even then it had the wrong centrebore.

We are making a 280mmx25mm kit using the new Dynapros for a Honda Cup guy in the South Island.

All the Corollas I have done this for could not believe the difference (This is comparing to the Toyota twin piston caliper using a 275mm disc so its similar to the Prelude upgrade alot of guys use).

Also the main prob with the kits that Wilwood supply are the discs in then kits are too thin and easily warp.

Originally Posted by Logger

My Wilwood kit uses the 310x32mm rotor, with the Superlite Calipers. Rotor hats and caliper mount were fabricated by a guy over there.

Keen to see a kit that utilises the 280mm rotor.

Thats a large kit. You must have to run 17" wheels?

Most guys want to run 15s so 280mm is the biggest option.

you can run bigger than 280mm but it comes down to caliper design and wheel design.

AP racing make a 295mm kit that fits under a 15in wheel.

id love to see a wilwood kit using super lite caliper that would fit under a 15in wheel

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

you can run bigger than 280mm but it comes down to caliper design and wheel design.

AP racing make a 295mm kit that fits under a 15in wheel.

id love to see a wilwood kit using super lite caliper that would fit under a 15in wheel

Yep I can make a Superlite kit using a disc around 296mm. But the disc would prob be 25mm thick.
Normally with such large discs I like to run 32mm thick discs which means less wheel spoke clearance.

The Superlite caliper is quite wide!

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

you can run bigger than 280mm but it comes down to caliper design and wheel design.

AP racing make a 295mm kit that fits under a 15in wheel.

id love to see a wilwood kit using super lite caliper that would fit under a 15in wheel

OK I had a play this weekend and the superlite caliper doesn't work with a 280mm disc, nor does a Dynalite/Dynapro lug mount caliper.
The lugs on the caliper interfere with the lugs on the hub. Meaning it needs a 300mm+ disc to work.

There are some new superlite calipers which are smaller than the older design which might fit under a 15" wheel. But would more quite a bit more $.

That leaves the only option of radial mount calipers for a 280mm setup.

Originally Posted by Logger

Which Superlites are you talking about? The new Forged Superlites with the internal crossover?

Also found this on ITR-DC2.com: Integra DC2 • Login, seems to be the sort of thing most people are wanting?

No not talking about the internal cross over ones. Talking about a billet one that uses 16mm pads not the 20mm ones.

I cant view that link.

Why not make one up using boxster rear calipers? I have Aem kit on my eg and it would be pretty easy to make this fit with a 280 mm prelude disc?

What are Boxster calipers?

Ended up using 312mm discs for this ITR hub im working on. Worked out perfect. Customer is running 17" wheels so clearance will be heaps.
As for 280mm discs, the 4x100 hubs will most likely fit the calipers.

I could possibly squeeze a 296mm disc on these kits but would require grinding about 4mm off the lugs on the hub and the lugs on the caliper to get them to fit. And this would most likely fit 15" wheels.

Is that a 2 piece wilwood disc the 312mm or off another honda model? Using superlite calipers?