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    700rpm (Idle) SB3614's Avatar
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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Test day at Pukekohe tomorrow!
    Weather is looking good, finally get to give my car a real drive.

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Had a top day at the track, loving the car!

    My impressions, compared with my last FTO.

    *EP3 handles great, can really put the power down corner exits without understeer.
    *More power, pity the limiter is at 190k, was hitting the limiter on the front straight.
    *Took a while to get used to having a six speed tranny, figuring out where to change etc.
    *Loving the sound of 9,000 RPM.

    *I'm guessing my gearbox is a bit worn, it pops out of 4th gear on cornering on the track, can anyone confirm this?
    So I had to quickly get used to going round the two fastest corners at Puke with one hand on the wheel and one holding it in gear!
    *Evo rims with 225/45/16's were great, no rubbing on the inside of the guards.
    *Used tons of fuel, used to do a tank plus a 20L jerry can for a day. Now I used that and was empty before last session, smaller fuel tank probably tho, will be taking the lawnmower can next time!

    *BRAKE FADE. So frustrating. Was getting fade after several laps of very hard braking. Had to push down really hard to get them to work.
    I think its not the pads as I've had them way hotter on the FTO and they still worked fine.
    Will have to look this up as I'm not sure how to fix this... Any thoughts?

    Things to do next-
    keep an eye out for gearboxes
    fix brakes somehow
    get rid of speed limiter

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    inspect and rebuilt current box, 2nd hand super hard to get..
    braided brake lines, race fluid, racing pads and sports or race discs
    get speed limiter/ meter device..

    should be a good start?
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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Make sure your rotors arent warped, if they are - skim/replace. Get some Motul RBF600 brake fluid (shit is amazing) and some good quality pads and you should be sorted on the braking front
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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    thanks for the tips,

    can anyone recommend a place in the waikato to get the gearbox rebuilt?

    As for the brakes, im using Mintex 1166 which im sure are not the problem as Ive been using them in my last car for years, and had them way hotter than they got yesterday with no fade.

    But I have no idea what or when the brake fluid is or how old it is, so that's one easy thing to fix.
    And keeping my eye out for other upgrade parts.

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Replace that fluid. You don't need to buy bling bling expensive fluid. Start with fresh repco dot4 every time you hit the track - its made by penrite. If fresh cheap fluid is still boiling and causing you issues (which I'm sure it won't) then look at upgrading to some expensive fluid. So many people buy the good stuff but the. Don't change it enough and then complain.

    Fresh cheap fluid change regularly is always better then expensive fluid changed once every 1 or 2 years!

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    are you running a Kpro?
    Quote Originally Posted by permaisuri View Post
    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Quote Originally Posted by Horny_Devil View Post
    are you running a Kpro?
    No, wish I was though, its a bit out of my price range at the moment

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    I would save for that over spending the few hundred on the speed cut remover.
    Quote Originally Posted by permaisuri View Post
    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Quote Originally Posted by Horny_Devil View Post
    I would save for that over spending the few hundred on the speed cut remover.
    thanks for the advise, what does it usually cost for a install and tune of a Kpro?

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    depends if you ship them your ECU or you buy one from them. anywhere from about 1150-1700.

    Tuning, no idea depends on how long it takes, but it can net you some good results
    Quote Originally Posted by permaisuri View Post
    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Quote Originally Posted by Horny_Devil View Post
    depends if you ship them your ECU or you buy one from them. anywhere from about 1150-1700.

    Tuning, no idea depends on how long it takes, but it can net you some good results
    Thanks,
    It would be great but spending 2g will always be way out out my price range,
    so I think I will just spend the couple hundred on the speed cut thing.

    But have to get brakes sorted first!

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Quote Originally Posted by SB3614 View Post

    *I'm guessing my gearbox is a bit worn, it pops out of 4th gear on cornering on the track, can anyone confirm this?
    So I had to quickly get used to going round the two fastest corners at Puke with one hand on the wheel and one holding it in gear!


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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    save money to get your gbox reconditioned mate = more trackdays!
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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Upgrade the box while its out. Chuck a taller final drive in the mix - good bang for buck mod.

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Quote Originally Posted by tysonzane View Post
    Upgrade the box while its out. Chuck a taller final drive in the mix - good bang for buck mod.
    Do you mean one of these?

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    I haven't really heard of these before, what are the main advantages?

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Shorter gear range, faster accelleration.
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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    your current gearbox will let you get about 290kph (dependent on tyre size) with a shorter final drive, say that spoon item it will let you get to only 270kph, but it will let you accelerate through the gears faster. you will never hit that sort or speed on the track in NZ and you could even go for a 5.46 or higher which gives a top speed of 250kph.

    The only downside is your cruising rpm at 100kph changes and would be about 3600rpm as opposed to the 3100 odd on the standard final drive.

    its well worth the upgrade if you need to pull the box apart
    Quote Originally Posted by permaisuri View Post
    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombine View Post
    Shorter gear range, faster accelleration.
    Almost.

    The length between gears is the same.

    As Jase pointed out, a drop in top speed increases the torque output to the wheels = more acceleration.

    Put the biggest final drive in you can find and then a USDM 6 gear to bring the cruising RPM back down in top gear.

    Or if you've got money go Gearx Mfactory and enjoy 900rpm between gear changes - ie, shit HAULS ASS.

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    when you say USDM 6th gear you mean the .659 one?
    Quote Originally Posted by permaisuri View Post
    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Quote Originally Posted by tysonzane View Post
    Almost.

    The length between gears is the same.

    As Jase pointed out, a drop in top speed increases the torque output to the wheels = more acceleration.

    Put the biggest final drive in you can find and then a USDM 6 gear to bring the cruising RPM back down in top gear.

    Or if you've got money go Gearx Mfactory and enjoy 900rpm between gear changes - ie, shit HAULS ASS.

    Hence I said "shorter gear range" not closer gears.
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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Sorry gear ratio expert.

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    And you are?

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    Obviously not. Got a lot to learn. Maybe you guys can teach me??

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    Re: Hamilton EP3 track day car

    I got what Zombine meant, guess you may have miss-interpreted it
    Quote Originally Posted by permaisuri View Post
    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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