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    8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) SiRedge's Avatar
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    Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Came across these headers on Trade Me: Hytec Style TRI-Y Header B Series for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand

    The auction claims that they're the best headers out there for a B series engine - anyone know anyone using them or dyno tuned having changed to them that can validate that? I have my doubts as to whether they'd be as good as a genuine set of Mugen or Spoon headers and I'm sure I'm not the only one...

    Just to add: I'm not looking at buying them either way, TRR 4-2-1 two piece are just fine for my application, just looking for some thoughts.
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    they are better then virtually every JDM header - all the JDM headers are essentially the same design. The Tri-Y as you can see from the pic is quite different.

    There are a number of guys here on the forum that have used them and even compared them against others and they are better.
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Yeah it's definitely much different to the TRR headers, which I'm told are a near copy of Mugen two piece 4-2-1 headers... much longer primaries, and the secondaries look quite beefy too.

    The auction does say they wouldn't be suitable on a stock (or near stock) setup... what do you think?
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Tried, compared and beaten all other headers that i tried. Including Mugen 4>2>1's, Mugen 4>1's, Toda 4>2>1's and 98spec. Hands down get my vote for best header. Although i will point out that you should port match them to your head for best results.


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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    I believe genuine Hytec headers are the best to date... Would be interesting to see a back to back dyno test between the genuine and copied versions.

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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    dazzanz was using "style" ones.....there is actually an RMF header that outperforms the hytec ones that I can get my hands on - "style" of course - waiting to get some dyno sheets from my guys.
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Hytec all you need to know.. style or not, very good headers

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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Quote Originally Posted by EVLTEK FBI AKL View Post
    dazzanz was using "style" ones.....there is actually an RMF header that outperforms the hytec ones that I can get my hands on - "style" of course - waiting to get some dyno sheets from my guys.
    Which RMF model? The original long runner drag header, or narrow and twisty street/drag/track one?
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    id say the narrow and twisty one if im judging by the copies that ive found available in my searches today (i got bored) ..

    tri Y is the best readily available header at the moment, bang for buck is probably the best too..

    you could go custom and maybe get 1-2kw more but then your bill would be a hell of alot more too
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Nylon- it's the twisty one. I'll post up some pics and whatnot tomorrow
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Nylon and nykon are two very different things...
    efsi: What's wrong with a 4AGE? They're good engines
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    heh on my iPhone. Lucky to spell anything right! Haha
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    narrow twisty header we can get



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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    /ricer

    Anyone know if the extremely long primaries affect the exhaust note?

    The Jack Daniel's V8 Supercars have a neat open-wheeler car exhaust note that was put down to having longer primaries. Just wondering if these would do the same.

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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    I have read these headers are only good on 1800cc motors and that toda 4-2-1 is still best header for 1600cc motor

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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    yeah these would not be ideally suited to 1600 - unless it was high comp with cams etc
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    whats the prices like from you for those headers adam?
    that pic looks funky as
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    the tri-y are around $795 - those funky RMF style twisty ones are another $125 or so
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    whats the difference between the funky twisty ones and the normal tri-y?
    headers will be my next major purchase and im unsure what to go with
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    both are shit. no difference.

    want good power? pay for the real thing. the hytech style ive got is rubbish metal. wouldnt even call it stainless steel, since i was able to mig it with copper wire. plus its thin as crap and guaranteed to crack at some point.

    RMF and SMSP get my vote, but only the real ones.
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

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    metal. wouldnt even call it stainless steel, since i was able to mig it with copper

    lol, mig can be used on all grades of stainless... how pretty you want it is another story

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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Does any one know where to get Hytec 4-1 megaphone side exit drag headers from? I know the genuine article is about $1300 USD! So im looking for other options. Will have to give the big tube tri-y's ago as second option.

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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Quote Originally Posted by NAspirated View Post
    both are shit. no difference.

    want good power? pay for the real thing. the hytech style ive got is rubbish metal. wouldnt even call it stainless steel, since i was able to mig it with copper wire. plus its thin as crap and guaranteed to crack at some point.

    RMF and SMSP get my vote, but only the real ones.
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    why would you spend $2kNZ when the $300US copies have been shown to make 99.9% of the power?
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    Have they?? Same gains throughout the powerband? If so then sweet, I've not seen or heard of any results and the jury is still out on a mates DC2 which has a set which hasn't been put on the dyno yet but they definitely didn't do anything to make you go OMG something has changed. Seat of pants ftl though
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    even if you didnt think they did anything awesome in your mates car, how much "OMG" justifies over $1500 price difference?

    the reality is the difference between "man that feels average" and "whoa thats fast!" is only a few horsepower and in all likely hood isnt dictated by header selection, especially when 90% of all off the shelf headers currently made for the B engine will make within 5hp of each other. its custom that will see more of a gain, and even then itll be so pathetic youll wonder why you bothered.

    maybe he should go buy an ERL block too, since your intent on throwing other peoples money away.
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    Yes they are probably not premium quality stainless, yes they are probably made on a one-size-fit's-all jig in China, but (mine e.g) were/are a shitload cheaper to buy than genuine ones, We dont have to wait 3 months for them to be made by some crazy little one man shop in the states, and then still have to port match them anyway

    I've bashed the fuck out of them, caught the collector on everything, and they are a cunt to put the primaries and secondaries back together if the headers need to come off for a clutch etc (two hands, four pipes) and they've never cracked... for the power and the price...
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Not a change of heart, they still make the power. cant argue that. Its the price and quality that i feel still does not reflect the price.

    yes, of course they are cheaper, they are inferior, in EVERY WAY. like everyone here tho, i'll recommend them due to the price. most peoples threads are "i have X to spend", or "whats the best value for money", and thats where these things win.

    recommending to someone to purchase a genuine header for their daily DC2 with intake and exhaust is crazy

    the powerband is very similar, its the quality that i hate. when I opened the box my hytech was in i couldnt believe how bad it really was. i knew it wasnt going to be perfect, but it took me over an hour to join the two pieces, since they were so far out of line (never resetting their jig's by the look of it). even when they were joined, they leaked like a siv. The headflange needed so much work to be satisfactory in my opinion, and the collector wasnt far off it.

    these headers should be in the 300-400 bracket. $800 is a rip. when all these guys had them at $1500 they were the biggest rip of the century. whats changed? nothing, suppliers are the same, quality is the same, headers are essentially the same (apart from small head flange changes). yet theyre half the price now. and you know what? import your own, youll get it even cheaper. this is why i dont like the copies, its all fake money.

    as for the RMF copies, like all copy headers they are thin, to maximise profits. i havnt seen a dyno yet where they make all the power the originals did, but theyre not far off. and then yet again theyre two piece so they are definately going to leak, all to get the shipping price down. if anyone gets one, weld it up.
    probably the worst part tho, is the megaphone is gone, just a straight piece of pipe.
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    Re: Tri Y headers: Best B series headers?

    Makes a lot of sense, good post. I know for a lot of people, copies will definitely be "good enough" and do the job they want just fine, and for someone with a budget, like most of us, they're a good alternative that still make 95% of the power... but does that make them worth the cost they're asking?

    The genuine article are well made and well worth their cost... yet these 'cheap knockoffs' that you're talking about, that just happen to imitate the best design, can ask for more than they're really worth... just because they're using someone else's design that just happens to be the best out there? I know what your answer to the question is!
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