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    da6 engine build

    my teg is going off the road if i cant get enough for it as i cant find a ef-9

    but

    wat engine build is recomended

    eather -b18c with 1600 head
    -b20b with 1600 head
    -b16a turbo

    just want to know wat ppl recomend ( it will be used as a daily car)

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    7,000rpm (Peak Power) chuckles2's Avatar
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    personally i would recomend a b18c/b16a hybrid.

    I reckon b20 is not worth it without a turbo but i hate turbos so dont do this, just my opinion.

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    9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) UR2FAT's Avatar
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    B16A head on a B18C is your best bet I think. Throw in a decent set of cams and high comp pistons and you'll have a half decent engine.
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    11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) tysonzane's Avatar
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    Go the B18C block and chuck your B16A pistons in it for a bit more compresion. Then chuck the B16A head on and a thinner head gasket or even mill the head for some mean compresion.

    You'll have to use the B16A intake manifold and definately use the Standard B16A injectors, as they will definately handle the task. Dont listen to people that say you need H22A ones etc. Its a load of cock for that setup.
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    Tuned for 2psi of boost since thats what I was getting up to with the Headlight forcefeed intake.

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    9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) UR2FAT's Avatar
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    Totally agree with Tysonzane...

    B18C block with P30 pistons (standard JDM B16A) + a 1 layer headgasket will push compression very close to 12:1cr :thumbsup:

    Match that with some ITR cams and valvetrain and it will be awesome. Not an overly expensive engine to build either.
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    8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Tofu's Avatar
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    im so knee on this conversion.....

    might be in the books for one of my next mods when i can afford it

    does anyone have a detailed write up and how to do it and what you need?
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    7,000rpm (Peak Power) talan's Avatar
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    My mate is going for B18C block, B16a head, CTR cams, CTR pistons in his EF8 currently in the build. I can't wait to see it. Helloooo high compression 8O

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    7,000rpm (Peak Power) Grin-T's Avatar
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    ^ ^ ^ 98 will run fine with that setup. No less though. Make sure he upgrades the valvetrain too.

    Chuckles2 - B20 VTEC is proven to make the most power out of a N/A B series engine. There heaps of engine making over 230whp (169.21KW at the wheels) and T.Blizzard on H-T has close to 270whp with stock sleeves. (198.64KW at the wheels) 8)
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    11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) tysonzane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tianporn
    My mate is going for B18C block, B16a head, CTR cams, CTR pistons in his EF8 currently in the build. I can't wait to see it. Helloooo high compression 8O
    I'd also have to reckomend that he goes to Type R Valce Springs. Or some other type of performance vavlve springs to hand the extra lift these cams give and the higher RPM thats achieveable with this cams.
    Quote Originally Posted by bmgjet View Post
    Tuned for 2psi of boost since thats what I was getting up to with the Headlight forcefeed intake.

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    7,000rpm (Peak Power) talan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tysonzane
    Quote Originally Posted by tianporn
    My mate is going for B18C block, B16a head, CTR cams, CTR pistons in his EF8 currently in the build. I can't wait to see it. Helloooo high compression 8O
    I'd also have to reckomend that he goes to Type R Valce Springs. Or some other type of performance vavlve springs to hand the extra lift these cams give and the higher RPM thats achieveable with this cams.
    He's gonna run the engine in first with stock valvetrain and then get some springs in from the states AFAIK. He'll know to take it easy

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    3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Falkin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by UR2FAT
    Totally agree with Tysonzane...

    B18C block with P30 pistons (standard JDM B16A) + a 1 layer headgasket will push compression very close to 12:1cr :thumbsup:

    Match that with some ITR cams and valvetrain and it will be awesome. Not an overly expensive engine to build either.
    Prolly a really noob question... but could you run a turbo of this setup?

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    yes but due to the high compression id say the most boost u could run would be about 5-6PSI

    if u wanna boost a motor use a stock B18C as it has lower compression which means u can run more boost.
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    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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    9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) UR2FAT's Avatar
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    The same set up with different pistons would suit boost better... for turbo applications a comp ratio of somewhere in the 9's is advisable.

    A B18A/B has a very low comp ratio... very low 9's. A B18B block with its own pistons plus a B16A head would give good gains for a turbo application.

    However this is about NA and NA is best so if you have further questions please ask in the forced induction forum.

    Thanks.
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    3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Falkin's Avatar
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    hehe yep just though ill ask in this post white hte discussion was going cheers guys

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    get a rota!
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    4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) melon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOHC_MY_DOHC
    get a rota!
    a 13b bridge with a 48mm IDA?
    nah Id go for the b20vtec if you can get it done cheap otherwise go all out and turbo it.

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    what do you want to use the car for?? that should determine your selection.

    All out power would be turbo B20....great for drag racing and thats it.
    All out reliability = B18 or B16 with either head with some pistons and rods and some head studs and you can rev it to pieces all day long.

    The B20 is hard to get reliable without spending big bucks..i mean full on race reliable...you need to sleeve it for a starters.

    Also your budget is the other thing determining your selection and it will probably determine what you use the car for as well
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    turbo B20 is not really good for drag due to the extra low down torque, makes it much harder to get inital traction (would be great with a rolling start tho )

    B20 also runs a less than ideal R/S which limits Rev's

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