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    Teaching English in asia

    I'm considering pursuing this as a change of pace, specifically EPIK, or the English Program in Korea.

    The requirements are quite simple EPIK Eligibility Requirements | Teach English in Asia but I was just wondering if people had done this or know people who have done this sort of thing and how they found their experiences? I know next to nothing about Korea and I understand that learning this language (or trying to) is generally considered more difficult than others such as French or Spanish for example.
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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    A guy I used to work with has just started doing exactly that in Korea, sounds like he's loving it and seems to think it's quite amusing more than anything else!
    I know his old man is in a NZ Military position over there as well though so he's probably a bit more comfortable having family there.

    Seeing his daily updates is pretty crack up though. My understanding is that with the Korean and Japanese teaching knowing their language isn't a necesity as they are so hard out about you speaking and teaching english to them.
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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    My cousin does it in South Korea and he loves it. So much that he married a local
    Spending money I don't have, on things I don't need to impress people I don't know.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Quote Originally Posted by theirlaw View Post
    I'm considering pursuing this as a change of pace, specifically EPIK, or the English Program in Korea.

    The requirements are quite simple EPIK Eligibility Requirements | Teach English in Asia but I was just wondering if people had done this or know people who have done this sort of thing and how they found their experiences? I know next to nothing about Korea and I understand that learning this language (or trying to) is generally considered more difficult than others such as French or Spanish for example.
    You're right about that I was fantastic at French and I'm learning Spanish at the moment and I am shocked at my progress You could go teach Spanish in Colombia?
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    If *THAT* doesn't sway you, I'll talk to my schoolmate who taught English in Seoul
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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Scary, I was just thinking about doing this is Japan next year - I've really wanted to do a year over there as a bit of an OE, buy a big Chaser and get a bit of dorifuto on my days off.. Enjoy the Japanese car scene, try get it out my system.

    Apparently you don't even need to know Japanese, I'm just more worried about me not knowing shit and going over there and not being able to do anything :\ I do have a mate over there, but I can't have him around me 24/7 doing translating and stuff.

    It's either that or hope IBM wants someone to send over to Japan for full time employment, but highly unlikely.
    I've been internalising a really complicated situation in my head.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Year and a half in Japan teaching English, ask away.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Holy crap okay.

    Where did you teach?

    How was it communicating, buying things like food, water, cars etc?

    Did you have trouble with transport? Did you drive, buy your own car, ride a bike, train?

    What was the average price of things, I got quoted about 3 million yen a year + accomodation - would that leave me much to play with if I was to eat traditional (I realise things like fruit is quite expensive)?
    I've been internalising a really complicated situation in my head.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    a couple i know were in korea teaching english and they loved it...spoke no Korean when they left nz

    my old boss was trying to tell me to go do it in
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    id be keen as but my kids are too young to bugger off for long periods just yet.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Im heading over to Japan later this year to teach English. I recently completed a celta course, thats a qualification for teaching English to foreign learners. Im glad i did that course as it has given me good insight and experience for what to expect when teaching. tesol is also another option as well.
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    Re: Teaching English in asia

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    Where did you teach?

    How was it communicating, buying things like food, water, cars etc?

    Did you have trouble with transport? Did you drive, buy your own car, ride a bike, train?

    What was the average price of things, I got quoted about 3 million yen a year + accomodation - would that leave me much to play with if I was to eat traditional (I realise things like fruit is quite expensive)?
    I was in Yokohama, but I was there on a spouse visa rather than a working/working holiday visa, and I wasn't with any organised programme so I had more freedom over where I worked.

    Getting by day to day wasn't a problem at all, and most local ward or city offices will have someone who speaks English for any official stuff. As will the immigration offices, of course. I didn't speak much when I went but picked up survival Japanese and left with some conversational which I've since lost a lot of. Day to day shopping was easy, as was eating at restaurants. I always figured if all else fails, point to the pictures and just try whatever you end up with, even if it's not what you think you ordered.

    I never bought a car there but I have a friend who owns both a DC2R and EK9, spends a lot of his time driving the toe-gay in Hakone. He also speaks fluent Japanese though. It's not that cheap to own a car as you have to have a registered parking space for it and their WoF equivalent is quite strict as I understand. Driving is easy though, Japanese drivers are the best and most polite I've come across. Getting around though, you'll mostly use trains if you're in a big city, or buses. Their buses often have the front door for getting on, with a machine you drop your coins into/swipe card on to pay, and you get off at the rear door.

    Living costs in Japan weren't that high. I paid about 80,000 yen a month for my 2DK apartment (two rooms plus a combined dining and kitchen room) which you can say is $800 a month if you're comparing spending power locally. If you're even paying for your accommodation, of course.

    Realistically the salary is fairly average, but plenty to get by on. After I separated from my ex-wife there I spent most of it on going out eating and drinking almost every night, and I survived easily. Fish is fairly cheap, as are pork and chicken. Learn to eat rice with every main meal and you'll survive very cheaply.

    Stated living costs for Japan are highly inflated due to it being an unfair comparison. They live in houses that have a second story instead of an extra room on the side, if at all, and they don't eat steak and roast chicken for half the week. Eat rice, noodles and Japanese stuff and I'd argue it can be cheaper than here.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    My flatmate from two years ago has just finished doing this in south Korea. She was pretty much just teaching five year olds and all she really had to do was speak english to them. She hadnt had any teaching experience before and as has been mentioned its not a necessity to learn korean but it would probably help for everyday things.
    "Im old school like quarter waters and eating in silence, you new school like faggot rappers competing for prizes" (Vinnie Paz)

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Ah that's where I was planning on going, Yokohoma. Purely because I want to experience Daikoku-Futo carpark once in my life. Chiba is a second choice.

    Yeah I realise running a car will be expensive, but it'll be purely what I plan to do. Spend my entire time on it, most of my money would be fuel or car parts. Or motorsport events.

    That's quite encouraging, assuming I have my apartment paid for so that may free me up a bit of coin.

    How about transport? Did you ever go far out, catch trains? Was it difficult knowing where you were going? I know busses you hop on, grab a ticket and can just ride it inot the sunset, I'd just be more worried about knowing where I'm going. Or if there's a GPS for English. (.e.g how easy was it to catch a train to a different city? were driving roads difficult to navigate?)

    Also, how often would you find someone speaking English in retail? e.g. at a dealership, car parts place or something like this. It's all essentially so I know how prepared I have to be, wether I should wait a few years and brush up on some Japanese or just go over whenever I have the chance. I'm only 20 so I got plenty of life in me.
    I've been internalising a really complicated situation in my head.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    I'll be honest and say that unless you make your own way there under your own steam and have your own visa sorted, I don't think you've got the greatest chance of being based in Yokohama, or Tokyo. Nor Osaka, I suspect. Most programs ask you to select your first and second choice of where you'd like to be based, and you can imagine most people will put down Tokyo or Yokohama. Most programmes are designed to get real English speakers into places the students won't come across them, so you often end up in smaller cities an hour or few from Tokyo or wherever.

    In retail... most larger stores will usually have someone who can speak some English, but probably not fluently. I always found it pretty fun dealing with Japanese people in their broken English and my even more broken Japanese, but it can be frustrating and if you're dealing with specific parts and requirements I don't think it will be easy at all. To be honest, when I consider the idea of buying and building a project in Japan I don't think you'll have much luck without having a friend on the inside as such. Super Autobacs is like a department store for JDM parts but you still need someone to install it all, because you're probably not going to do be able to do it yourself from your company-provided apartment and parking space, which may not be as close by as you like.

    When I was living there I took the train to work every day, and travelled a few longer distances by train. I've taken the Shinkansen a few times up to Niigata where an ex-girlfriend lived. It's pretty simple stuff, most stations are in English or have English route maps available. Tokyo is complicated, but decipherable, and there are mobile phone websites with train route finders so you just plug in where you start and where you want to finish. You get the hang of it.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Ah well that's encouraging. I have a mate over there, his brother works for Junction Produce etc so he'll be helping me with some things. Japanese speak the universal language of chasis codes so hopefully I can get somewhere.

    I have seen a few advertising around Chiba region, but otherwise yeah they're mainly a few hours out. I'm more just looking further into it, but you've given me a good little insight on it and it makes me really keen to start looking hard into it. Think I may need to brush up on a few words of Japanese though, or atleast learn to write it.

    Thanks
    I've been internalising a really complicated situation in my head.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    My advice would be do it sooner rather than later while you have no commitments, going away for a week while still having to pay bills etc sucks! so I say go hard!

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Well I still live at home. Only thing I'd have to decide is if I should sell my Skyline and use the money over there or not. Otherwise I've got no real commitments.

    The main issue I have is my current job isn't really one to just pass off.
    I've been internalising a really complicated situation in my head.

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    I guess you have to weigh it up and ask yourself it you really want to do it, personally if I was in your position I would sell all my stuff, bite the bullet and do it (after a heap of research first) your old job might take you back when you return and if not at least you a reference and experience for something else. Your only young once, just wait until you see water bills

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Don't want to be a downer at all, but be aware it's not all a dream living there. I'm pretty well travelled from when I was growing up but I still had a good period of culture shock. I don't know if you've had much time in different countries with different cultures, but if you haven't, be prepared. I never found much issue, but a lot of the ex-pats in Japan can be a bit bitter and disillusioned with living there. Always made me wonder why they stay, as the way they can tell it the Japanese police are out to inconvenience them however they can.

    Also be aware that Japan is quite unique in how it handles foreign English teachers and their qualifications. If you were to teach in Europe an English teaching degree would almost almost guaranteed be required; none of this basic CELTA or TESOL course stuff would cut the mustard. Japan is incredibly lenient and only seems to care about qualifications for the purpose of qualifying for a working visa, so it doesn't matter what you have a degree in, or in my case, as long as you can get your own working visa through marriage or otherwise.

    There's also a good chance you'll be working alongside some real nerds, and have some freaky-deaky students. I remember I had one guy who collected those plastic model kits of young female anime characters in bathing suits and short skirts with panty details. Was a total creep.

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    Yeah well this is the stuff I like hearing about.

    I'm actually completely unqualified except for a few computer company qualifications (Microsoft, Cisco, CompTIA) so I guess it's not so much of an issue. I got 5 years working experience behind me at 20, it's not so much wanting to live up the life, I just don't like it here in New Zealand.

    I don't expect it to be perfect, I just, frankly hate how small New Zealand is. There isn't enough people, enough buildings, enough cars. Some people like that, me, it bores the shit out of me.

    And apart from Australia, there's only really one other place in the world which will support my massive Japanese car porn fetish.. So ye.

    Hence the 9 month contract with one of these English things. Try 9 months, come back to New Zealand and see how I feel. I wouldn't dedicate to anything more, and would avoid owning anything important that I can't bring back with me (I'm sure I could bring the car back, but won't be buying a house & a mortgage).
    I've been internalising a really complicated situation in my head.

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    To be blunt, 20 years old with no bachelor's degree isn't going to get you a teaching job or a programme placement in Japan

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    My sister did 6 months in Korea (sounds like a war veteren) and for the most part she enjoyed it. As it says in the requirements you need a Bachelor of something and she had a BA (bugger all) ...

    She naturally gets homesick hence why she only lasted 6 months instead of the 12 she was supposed to do, she found it a bit of a struggle to get used to the Korean custom.

    As for the teaching she had good days and bad days, their school system is completely different to ours it's more of a regime. The kids could spend more then 12 hours in school each day and because english was not so important by the time they got to her class they just weren't interested in learning.

    The pay was good (can't remember any specifics) but due to the fact you're living in a completely different country she found she wasn't wasting as much money on pointless stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poekies View Post
    My cousin does it in South Korea and he loves it. So much that he married a local
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    A mate of mine taught Engrish in Malaysia. Ended up marrying a local too.

    FML he has the funniest 'lisp' ever . . . god help his students

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shine View Post
    To be blunt, 20 years old with no bachelor's degree isn't going to get you a teaching job or a programme placement in Japan
    LOL owned

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    Re: Teaching English in asia

    You'll find out soon enough that Asian countries are big on their degrees.
    umad?

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    LOL owned
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerone View Post
    You'll find out soon enough that Asian countries are big on their degrees.
    Japan's the easiest, they only care about it for the visa side of things. If you can get a full work-inclusive visa another way they don't care

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