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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    I found a much cheaper way to do all the hardware,but I need to talk with you sometime so I can get more actual informantion.

    Quote Originally Posted by FLYRYD View Post
    its just mainly the rear diff that is weak, its just not a very beefy diff and with abuse like dropping the clutch at high rpm (with wide 245/255 tyres), it is likely to break before anything else in the drivetrain.

    the gearbox is pretty strong, the only thing is with the early ones. some are very hard to get into gear, grinds when going to gear, popping out of gear...etc
    the reason is not wear and tear either. there are technical updates to fix it. usually you must replace the gear set or counter shaft, stuff like that. it does get expensive.

    Ive met a person with a very low km, early s2000. he must have only had 15,000km on it. the gearbox grinded like mad in 2nd and 3rd. his attitude was "its just wearing in, it'll get smoother with age".... sorta implies that its always been like that from the start.

    normally with the grinding gearboxes, its very bad when cold. but when the trans warms up, there is less or no grind.

    last time i priced up a OEM complete hard top kit (hardtop painted to color and everything needed to fit it to the car) was $12,000 retail. and was discontinued. the strikers, side catchers, latches etc cost a lot more than a couple of hundred


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    Phil,I am still working out the total price,one confirmed in coming shipment for sure,once I confirmed the price might have another one confirmed,I will let you know for sure and it's the best chance to order all together since the shipment cost will be lower,I guess you can guess how big will be box!!!hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by SoL View Post
    the 04 facelift gets carbon synchros in the gearbox which addresses some of the grinding and shifting issues...

    even though mine is MY05 model, going from 1st to 2nd was a bit notchy when cold, and i know it's not a wear and tear issue as mine is new and has done that from new. although, in saying that, it's just ticked over 18,000kms and with the 3rd gearbox oil change just done recently, it's all but dissapeared and smooth now...

    damn alfred... you tempting me... pm me a price eh...


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    I found that a bit on my car as well,isn't it because the oil need to be change???I want to do it but don't have a chance yet....

    Quote Originally Posted by kc.org.nz View Post
    yeah the gearbox is alittle clunky? i found that there is like a sweet rpm that allows the shifts to be nice something like 3200~3600rpm for my car or i just use the old single/double clutching going up in order for it to go in nicely when it feels "clunkY" or cold operating temps rather then ramming it in there

    hard tops sound nice....! but expensive~
    pics sound nice~!
    here is mine


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    You know what my car look like anyway.hehehehe

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    mind sharing all your s2k pics?? hehheheeee
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    yes changing the oil will fix it..... for a very short period of time. lol

    i'm happy my trans is pretty smooth, never been notchy, never grind even when cold.


    nice pics john, got any more action pics?
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    yeah got some more pics but u probably have seen it? as i got them off this forum(driftx trackday) haha;
    will take some this weekend and will post them up

    alfred: mtf change everytime before going to track....haha;and suction bleeding too... i guess mine is not A+ condition like alans...

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    I want to do the oil change as well,but seen no one I can trust can do it for me.....sigh....my best friendly shop close down at last...LOL mine is alright,not really often,but just want to do it since I know it's better for the car.

    Quote Originally Posted by kc.org.nz View Post
    yeah got some more pics but u probably have seen it? as i got them off this forum(driftx trackday) haha;
    will take some this weekend and will post them up

    alfred: mtf change everytime before going to track....haha;and suction bleeding too... i guess mine is not A+ condition like alans...
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    suddenly all the S2k owners show up in the forum, cool

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    Hey guys-- just joined so I can reply to this thread... Am a member over on s2ki.com but seems like the NZ thread is pretty dead.

    Re: AP1 problems

    None to speak of if it's been treated well... Ideally you want 2002 or newer as the 1999/2000 didn't come with a wind deflector and in 2002 they switched to glass window soft top which is nice.

    As far as grenading the diff goes, supposedly it's actually better for it to launch in the higher revs and break the tyres loose as opposed to loading up the diff. I had 150,000kms on my AP1 in the states, supercharged for about 50,000kms of that, and never had any issues with the diff, trans or stock clutch. Second gear seems to be the most common to grind when it's cold and you could try a different trans fluid, should go away when it warms up.

    The top is definitely the weakest link, but can be replaced at home in a day with pretty basic tools... Not sure what a top will cost you over here, you can get them (new) for $500 US or so in the states.

    Another thing to look out for is the driver side door side thigh bolster, which will start to collapse... Had heard you can have an upholstry shop fix it, but never bothered me enough to sort it out.

    The standard radio is pretty crap, and if you get an S that was imported from Japan you won't pick up most [radio] stations... I rock a tape adapter and an iPod...

    All that aside, with at least 100,000km's between the two AP1's I've had- they've never really let me down. Pretty bomb-proof if you take care of them.

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    Anyhow... Definitely considering the Taupo trackday, will be driving up to Hamilton this weekend to vist some family, so if anyone is around on Sunday would be cool to get a little impromptu meet together.

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    i think the facelift radios are a bit better, mine seems to get good sounds with cd, mini disc and fm tunes fine with a band expander in it.

    agree with the dropping clutch thing, better to spin the rear wheels up rather than bog it down as that's usually when the diff shits itself... and speaking of spinning out lol... the back end slided out big time this morning driving to work and going round a small sharp roundabouts... hit a wet icy patch and wooopsy .... got a double thumbs up from the car behind me for managing to keep the car out of harms way... but the constable down the road wasnt very impressed .... got a good grilling off but managed to talk my way out of it lol

    havent used my stock s2000 seats from new as i took it out and replaced it with dc5r recaros... but with any seat with bolsters, as long as you get in and out of the car nicely without putting weight or leaning on the bolster itself then it shouldn't collapse.

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    roundabouts are definitely a bit dodgy on a cold damp morning... add questionable tyres and you might as well be on ice skates...

    speaking of-- i know it's a bit of a snowballs chance in hell, but no one has some ap2 or ap2.5 stockies they'd be willing to part with do they?

    also since i'm asking... can anyone suggest a good shop in hamilton? picking up some front pads on monday, and was hoping to get them put on before we head back down to wellington. would appreciate any recommendations you guys can make.

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    hey james, welcome to nzhondas.

    yeah, if you are keen on the trackday, please give me a buzz


    heres a pic of me at the last taupo trackday, i hardly get a chance to drive like that on the street....

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    hope to see lots of s2ks at taupo! thanks for sharing your experience James did u ever track the sc s2k? cause my friends sc s2k didnt last very long until it started blowing up here and there on the track but it sure seemed super quick..making over 240kw atw with 4.77 fd from memory.. m3 and gtrs had hard time keeping up with it until over 160km/h....

    nice pic alan featured on nzpc i believe
    SoL: DC5R Seats? nice...im surprised that they fit in there... is it rubbing on the door trim or has some clearance?
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    ^^ how did you get a passenger on the track with no cage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WingIt View Post
    ^^ how did you get a passenger on the track with no cage?
    J tuned track day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingIt View Post
    ^^ how did you get a passenger on the track with no cage?
    the track keeper allowed us to take passengers as long as they had helmet, overalls, signed the form and the driver didn't drive all stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLYRYD View Post
    the track keeper allowed us to take passengers as long as they had helmet, overalls, signed the form and the driver didn't drive all stupid.

    Ahh right, just wondering as everytime ive been to taupo we wernt allowed passengers unless had a full cage and all that
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    yeah post pic of your s2k Phil....

    more more of nz s2k pics plss.....
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    no rubbing on the seats but you need to get the rails right, and also change the turn knob of the recaros to slim ones

    thanks for all the compliments guys, but i'm sure there's heaps of s2k out there better than mine...

    here's an old pix of when i had the regamasters on




    and here's with the meisters 3pc



    sorry no new photos but maybe david can take some on my next trip up auck or something
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    I've got a very very noisy gearbox that makes a big old racket every time I'm cruising in gear (no brakes or gas applied). Quite a few of the boys on s2ki describes a buzzing sound from their early AP1s due to something to do with the clutch but I'm really not sure if I can describe my one as 'buzzing'. I changed my gearbox oil a couple of weeks ago with no real noticeable change so I'm hoping that means my gearbox hasn't killed itself.

    In regards to seats, I'm thinking that EP3R Recaro's would probably work better on the S as the side bolsters seems to be shorter which I'm guessing would make them less prone to damage from getting in and out. Wouldn't know how well they fit though as haven't had a chance to get my hands on a set to try out.

    SOL, what did you do with your turn knob to allow your DC5R recaro's to fit? Did you get a steel one made up for it?

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    the clutch buzz, usually happens when you let go of the accelerator with the car in gear at highish rpm.

    if your clutch disc is faulty, the little springs on the clutch disc become loose and rattle.
    it doesnt affect performance but it is annoying.



    hey phil, did you roll your guards? front and rear?




    IMO EP3 seats dont hold you any better than the S2000 seats....
    Ive test driven a S2k with bride fixed back bucket seats, its so awesome but getting in and out is like wtf....
    its almost impossible. haha
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    yeah i've had my front guards rolled but not enough as it's cracked the paint when the tires hit it last time when i had 235 on the fronts. probably wont bother as i plan on replacing them with carbon wide ones later.

    rear has been pulled and rolled and although hard to tell it's now about 20mm wider each side. will probably try to run 285 rears next set of tires.

    ep3 seats are not as good as the dc5r recaros in my opinion but i guess it's kinda diff look...

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    I don't think performance has been affected but it's hella annoying. But I suppose if I wanted peace and quiet, should've probably stayed away from an S2000

    I agree that EP3 recaro's don't hold you as well as DC5R or even DC2R ones for that matter. But I think they're better than the stock S2000 seats and I think it would be a lot easier to get out of an S2000 with EP3 recaros than DC5/DC2 recaro. Bit of a compromise I suppose.

    If you don't mind me asking, what size/offset wheels are you running SOL?

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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    After owning my s2k after 2 weeks I can safely say I love driving the s2k! Though my 99 spec has the clutch buzz issue when you let go off the gas the gbox makes a loud buzzing noise...kinda annoyin at first but you get use to the sound (kinda racey soundin even haha) Also my 2nd gear in the cold is a quite notchy but normally goes away after being fully warmed up.

    I met up with Phil aka Sol a few weeks back we had a mini S2k meet at maccas in htown Lol. I bought a litre of that lubrication engineers diff oil off him and once I drained out the oem honda diff oil from honda wgtn and installed this new thicker LE diff oil it quietened down the diff considerably and would recommend it to all s2k owners out there...though it is a bit more pricey than normal diff oil but for the s2k its worth it I think!

    so which s2k owners are goin to the taupo jtune trackday in august then?
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    i think the clutch buzz is only on prefacelift models, as mine with the stock clutch was silent and smooth... but i do have the clutch buzz too now with the unsprung ATS carbon clutch....

    tec wingz sorry, hope you understand but i dont really want to post up the exact specs on the wheels on a public forum only to have someone comes along and get the same setup... took me months of trial and testing and back and forth calls to work in japan for my custom set.

    quite a few people i know in person on the forum knows the exact specs, but they extend out around 50mm each side and are about 2" wider than the stock facelift wheels (if you do some research you'll probably be able to figure it out)

    if you need help on figuring out offsets to order your wheels etc, i can give you a hand etc.

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    pic of my s2k attached, need to take some descent pics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL- View Post
    pic of my s2k attached, need to take some descent pics!
    hurry up, get your car sorted and come taupo!!

    phil going to come? accomodation is cheap if u want to stay the night or two
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    Re: Calling AP1 S2000 owners

    might try and come have a look, will check if i can get off work.

    Who are you guys with for insurance by the way?? mind listing your premium/ excess etc?

    i'm currently with AA, and premium is approx $800 a year, $400 excess, agreed value of $45,000

    am renewing it next week, am thinking of going with AMI, and they've offered me premium of $530, $250 excess ($500 for malicious damages), and agreed value of $40,000

    does my agreed value seem reasonable?? there's 2x 2006 honda with similar kms as mine at honda for $58,000 and $60,000 at the moment...

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