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    5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) NTQUIK's Avatar
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    Red Light camera in Town

    Has anyone else noticed the new red light and speed camera in town on the intersection of them empire traven in the city so corner of victoria st west and nelson st.
    So its a double banger if your speeding thought a red light you get a speeding ticket and a red light ticket so beware only knew what they was coz ive seen them in oz



    kinda looks like this its on the side of tvnz building
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    Not that anybody goes speeding through red lights anyway..... We aint no Killah Beeze...
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    I guess from LTSA's point of view it's fantastic, cause the people who do run red lights generally punch it to blast through them, haha.

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    Yes seen it outside the TVNZ building, about time to bring back the red light cameras.

    The old ones stopped being used ages ago as it become too expesnive to run and collect film etc.
    When the new demerit points schedule comes in.. two red lights and your licence is gone burger.

    75 points for failing to stop for a red traffic signal
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    Yeah there's one on the intersection of Symonds St and K-rd heading East down Symonds too so watch it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gothecivic
    Yeah there's one on the intersection of Symonds St and K-rd heading East down Symonds too so watch it!
    Just don't run red lights. Creates a major safety issue.
    There are a few bike riders on this forum, we and pedestrians are most at risk from red light runners.
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    Red light runners are dickwads, get what they deserve.
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    Don't mind red light cameras, running reds is plain stupid. But combining the 2 leads to people slamming the brakes to avoid being fined and losing their license. Canberra have used for ages and they have caused a quite a few rear enders as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canman
    Red light runners are dickwads, get what they deserve.
    damn strait! its the local passtime in auckland, buses are the fucking worst too
    when i was working as a courier, id give it a 2 count on a green before i left, ya never knew who was going to tear thru the intersection
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    So how do they determine who is 'running a red'? Do they take pictures of all cars going through after the lights turn yellow? Or after x seconds of yellow? Or just as it turns red? What about cars that are already half way through the intersection as it turns red? Just a few points that needs clearing up because otherwise they will get alot of people that are genuinely too close to the intersection when the lights turn yellow to stop safely.
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    If it is safe to stop when the lights turn yellow, do so.

    Thats how they figure it out. If the speed limit is 50, then the orange light will be plently long enough if you could not stop safely.

    Red light Cameras = :thumbsup:
    Shoud be on every set of lights (Within reason)

    They need to crack down on people that dont use indicators too!

    Two of many of my pet hates when driving :evil:

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    speeding(a little bit) = okish depending on the conditions etc..
    running red light = pretty dangerous, deserved to get fined

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    MMJA, I assume it will only take a picture if you cross the line when the red light is on. Really late light runners aren't clever, but nowhere near as bad as those who shoot through when it's just turned red or even when it's been red for a while (relatively speaking).

    Reality is that if you're anywhere near the centre of the junction when the red light is on, that means you've run it pretty fine. I think they'd only really be gunning for the really bad ones as otherwise it's going to be too hard to know.

    vtec-aus, I don't really see eye to eye with you on the rear ending thing. I agree it might create some, however if that happens then the person following was either trying to follow him through the lights or was way too close, either way it's not the fault of the person closest to the lights is it... ?
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    Edit: I removed my post 'coz I answered my own question

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMJA
    So how do they determine who is 'running a red'? Do they take pictures of all cars going through after the lights turn yellow? Or after x seconds of yellow? Or just as it turns red? What about cars that are already half way through the intersection as it turns red? Just a few points that needs clearing up because otherwise they will get alot of people that are genuinely too close to the intersection when the lights turn yellow to stop safely.
    Once you drive over the sensors while red you get snapped doesn't matter if you started when it was yellow or not, depends where the sensors are placed and how the camera is calibrated

    You MUST stop at yellow UNLESS it is UNSAFE to do so, then you may continue...
    Not continue crossing like its green until it turns red and then punch it

    It's really good to see NZ starting to roll out red light cameras, but it wont stop people running red lights... In Australia you see 10x as many people running red in one week as you would in a life time in NZ

    By all means NZ drivers are far far better than Australians

    And yeah those look like the same cameras that Australia has; I just hope to god NZ doesn't turn into a police state like Victoria, speed camera on every street corner

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    I agreee with XPOLIT, i see to many people running orange lights when there about to turn red all the time, people dont care they just wanna get home and are usually just to impatient to wait 20 second's or so, they need more of these round christchurch forsure, heaps of young punks think its sweet to run the lights, ( Orange is Stop not Go ) Piss's me off when ya waiting to turn right at some lights your've sat and waited for everyone to go thru then the lights turn orange and just as your about to go some dork thinks he's sweet to run through before you can turn, and your left there turniong on a red light whilst the others have gone green, F**K's me right off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friction
    but it wont stop people running red lights...
    I think it will, given the new infringement schedule of 75 demerit points on your licence for running a red light.

    Two offences in two years and you loose your licence.
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    Any form of running red lights is dangerous and completely irresponcible.

    I think they would work off the opposing light being green. If the light is green then the camera will be working on the red light side. Not when is light is half way through orange.

    Quote Originally Posted by osirisboi
    I think it will, given the new infringement schedule of 75 demerit points on your licence for running a red light.

    Two offences in two years and you loose your licence.
    I highly doubt that

    Where did you hear that?

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    It works off of when the light goes red not opposite green...

    Quiet a few lights have a delay for going green because of people running the red...


    They deter some but unfortunately very few people from running red, but people still do it; as if not having a license would stop these people from driving anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPLOIT

    I highly doubt that
    For yee non belivers..
    http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/t...safety+package

    The penalties will be as follows:

    * up to 20km/h over the limit will attract a fine of $50 and 25 demerit points;
    * 21-30km/h over the limit will attract a fine of $100 and 50 demerit points;
    * over 30km/h over the limit will attract a fine of $150 and 75 demerit points.

    Offences relating to failing to give way or stop

    * failing to comply with red traffic signal will attract a fine of $150 and 75 demerit points;
    * failing to stop or give way at stop sign will attract a fine of $100 and 50 demerit points;
    * failing to give way at a give way sign will attract a fine of $50 and 25 demerit points;

    What will happen to the laws around the wearing of seatbelts?

    Failing to wear a seatbelt will attract a fine of $50 and 25 demerit points.
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    Cheers for posting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtec-aus
    Don't mind red light cameras, running reds is plain stupid. But combining the 2 leads to people slamming the brakes to avoid being fined and losing their license.
    Meh, I nearly got rear ended at the lights on Ellerslie-Panmure highway coming down the hill to turn right into Mt Wellington Highway because I actually stopped on the orange! It was a 'should I, shouldn't I?' kinda call, and I decided to stop. Then I heard the screech of tyres behind me and braced for impact, Luckily the guy stopped just in time!

    Bring them in on every major set of traffic lights I say, I'd rather see them gathering revenue from that than pinging people going 3kmh over the speed limit. They should also shorten the orange light, it only takes a few seconds to stop from 50kmh, so why do you need 30 seconds of orange light for people to run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMJA
    So how do they determine who is 'running a red'? Do they take pictures of all cars going through after the lights turn yellow? Or after x seconds of yellow? Or just as it turns red? What about cars that are already half way through the intersection as it turns red? Just a few points that needs clearing up because otherwise they will get alot of people that are genuinely too close to the intersection when the lights turn yellow to stop safely.
    well in oz even if your in the intersection for a second or less after it goes red you get a ticket and its a good way of getting people that speed though so the dont miss the lights as they get a speeding ticket at same time towns shocking for red light runners i hope they put them up the top of town where you get on and off motorway i reckon a good 100-200 people a day run them lights would stop that in a hurry if they do
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    I almost got rear ended, blasted with the horn, and given the finger for stopping at a yellow/orange light. It wasn't like i stopped just as it turned yellow/orange too.
    Some idiots out there.

    The hard part is keeping your cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canman
    MMJA, I assume it will only take a picture if you cross the line when the red light is on. Really late light runners aren't clever, but nowhere near as bad as those who shoot through when it's just turned red or even when it's been red for a while (relatively speaking).

    Reality is that if you're anywhere near the centre of the junction when the red light is on, that means you've run it pretty fine. I think they'd only really be gunning for the really bad ones as otherwise it's going to be too hard to know.

    vtec-aus, I don't really see eye to eye with you on the rear ending thing. I agree it might create some, however if that happens then the person following was either trying to follow him through the lights or was way too close, either way it's not the fault of the person closest to the lights is it... ?
    Thanks for the info, I was just only interested in facts on how the cameras will be set up, didn't mean to come across as someone who runs the reds and just looking for ways to beat this system.
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    but im definitly not gonna change my mind when i say vtecs are better than i-vtecs.... unless its the accords i-vtec as they come ready for a turbo which i find pretty mean.

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