How To Request: H22A Tensioner

[XPLOIT]

As per my previous thread regarding balancing belts....

Can someone give me a detailed guide as to how to change from a Hydro tensioner to a manual?

I will be ordering these parts... (What I have been told I need)

14510-pt0-004 - Adjuster Comp., Timing Belt
14516-pt2-000 - Spring Comp., Timing Belt Adjuster
14521-p14-a00 - Plate, Adjuster
90014-p14-a00 - Bolt, Timing Belt Adjuster Base
90015-pt0-000 - Bolt, Timing Belt Adjuster Spring
90016-pt0-000 - Bolt, Timing Belt Adjuster
90140-p14-a00 - Washer, Plain (11mm)

Although, I dont know exactly what all the parts are

Does anything need to be modified to fit the different parts on?

Thanks,

J

[Bananaman]

I have all the parts listed above and there is a guide someplace althought I cant put my hand on it right now.

All parts are needed in the swap. Some are hard to come by and only ex japan. I waited around 4 weeks for a couple of bits.

I may wait on getting my put on so if you want to make me an offer on the list of parts your welcome to.

[nva2nd]

Forgot about the picture...sorry

Basicly its auto tensioner hollowed out, with a wheel stud threw and nut lock it in place.

Guy off H-T gave me the idea and ive done about 4000kms on it now, including a few track days and its still mint.

Unlike my 80kms Auto one lol

[lazyman]

Whats the benefits from Hydro tensioner to a manual??

[XPLOIT]

Ill send you a PM soon Bananaman.

Kane: I dont like the look of that Ill just stick to the Honda parts I think.

Does the manual stuff just bolt onto the block or does it need to be modified?

[Bananaman]

^^^^ No benefit

The auto tensioners are known to fail. So replacing them with manual ones is the preferred thing.

From what I have read just bolt on.

[nva2nd]

Originally Posted by XPLOIT

Ill send you a PM soon Bananaman.

Kane: I dont like the look of that Ill just stick to the Honda parts I think.

Does the manual stuff just bolt onto the block or does it need to be modified?

Ricer

All parts will be Ex-Japan and Honda couldn't swear all off it would turn up to me.....

[XPLOIT]

Haha, how does that make me a ricer???

If its all bolt on, I should be able to do it no probs..... I havnt even got the cover off yet so cant tell.

Im not putting the Balancing belt on either.

[americ_ian]

no offence, but i see an epic fail happening

:-D

wish i could help bud!

but SIMM is too far away

[Logger]

I reckon we should pull the motor aswell Jared, then we can practice delooming before I have a go at mine

[XPLOIT]

Thanks Ian

Im competent


I have already had this discussion with Mike, enogine is not coming out. There is fuck all wiring anyway as Mike said.

[Bananaman]

Heres the collective racing "How to"

This seems to be a hot topic for the H22 owners out there. Here is a step by step "how to" conversion to the more reliable H23 (manual) style of tensioner. The H22a block used, is obviously a "mock-up", so don't be critical of the missing pieces. This conversion can be done in the car, but in this case it was done out of the car for illustration purposes only.


Parts list:

13404-PT0-004 - ADJUSTER COMP., BALANCER BELT
13415-PT0-000 - BRACKET, BALANCER BELT ADJUSTER
14510-PT0-004 - ADJUSTER COMP., TIMING BELT
14516-PT2-000 - SPRING COMP., TIMING BELT ADJUSTER
14521-P14-A00 - PLATE, ADJUSTER
90014-P14-A00 - BOLT, TIMING BELT ADJUSTER BASE
90015-PT0-000 - BOLT, TIMING BELT ADJUSTER SPRING
90016-PT0-000 - BOLT, TIMING BELT ADJUSTER
90140-P14-A00 - WASHER, PLAIN (11MM)

Here is a link for the parts list:

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto....%282%29

This is a frontal and side shot of what the auto tensioner set up looks like with the timing belt cover, balance shaft crank pulley, balance shaft belt, and timing belt out of the way.
All of these thing will need to be removed to do this conversion.



Start by removing the auto tensioner pieces. These following pictures should be fairly self explanitory.




These following pieces will be removed from the h22 in this step and set aside for later use.


With the parts removed this is what it looks like.


This step, we will remove the troubsome auto tensioner.


With the auto tesioner gone, we will remove the rest of the tensioner mechanism. The following pictures should be self explanatory.






Now, with the complete auto tesioner mechanism removed, we are ready to add the manual tensioner parts.


This bolt and washer are what we start with. The factory washer is critical! It has a larger diameter than the block casting. This is a factory Honda part #90140-P14-A00 - WASHER, PLAIN (11MM), but for those of you who are lazy or pinching pennies, the diameter is 40mm and the thickness is 1.5mm If the wrong washer is used, improper alignment can occure as well as limited movement of the timing belt tensioner pulley.




These 2 pieces will be added next.





Add the timing belt tensioner pulley and check to see if it has full movement on its pivot.





Next we will install the balance shaft tensioner pulley. For this install, we will re-use the H22 part. The H23 part has a larger spacer that places it further out away from the timing belt pulley. I recomend using the H23 part (not shown), but with a few washers (used as spacers) the H22 pulley (pictured) can be used correctly.




If you are reusing the H22 part, MAKE SURE THE PULLEYS CLEAR EACH OTHER! This is a common mistake and can be catastrophic. When reusing the h22 balance shaft tensioner pulley, the pulleys must not touch! if you are using a h23 balance shaft tensioner pulley, there is no need to worry. it is already spaced properly.


Reinstall the balance shaft tensioner retainer.


Manual style tensioner in place completely. front and side views.

[XPLOIT]

That is awesome! Thanks!!!!!

[nva2nd]

haha Brian ive posted that up before. And its in nzhondas FAQ just wanted to see if people bothered to search

[Bananaman]

I knew I had seen it someplace on here before.

[XPLOIT]

Originally Posted by nva2nd

haha Brian ive posted that up before. And its in nzhondas FAQ just wanted to see if people bothered to search

The FAQ links are not working...

[XPLOIT]

Just another quick question, If im going to keep the hydraulic tensioner, Do I need to replace this??? (Obviously an unmodified one)