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Old 9th June 2008, 11:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why isnt my car getting low?

Hi all.
I have a bit of a problem on my hands.
Just over the weekend I decided I was going to lower my integra a little more so I aquired a set of jamex super low springs (which came with seats as well!) and started to install them.
First I was surprised to see that I had a set of neuspeed springs already residing in the holes.
seconly i was more surprised to see after the springs were fitted my car was around 5 mm higher than it was prevoiusly!
Aparently my neuspeed springs offer about 40mm reduction in ride height and the jamex are supposed to be around 50-55mm.
The guy at the jamex store was no help.
He just said refit the old ones and sell the jamex one's on!

So could someone please help!

Im not going to use shit brands anymore..
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Old 9th June 2008, 11:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

If the Jamex were new, you have to wait for them to sag.

Were the Neuspeed Race or Sport stamped ones? If they were race, then they drop about the same as Jamex - but offer a much, much better ride. Jamex are shit - end of story.
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Old 9th June 2008, 11:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

maybe just wait untill they settle in abit, they might go lower.
But i think the original springs would be better
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Old 9th June 2008, 11:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

I've always heard Neuspeeds are better than Jamex, so I reckon keep the original one's and sell the Jamex on.
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Old 9th June 2008, 11:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

But what Im getting at here, Is the fact that there is a 3 inch gap between my tyre and my guard!
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Old 9th June 2008, 11:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

Im going to have to buy a set of coilovers.
I want a damn refund!
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Old 9th June 2008, 12:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

jamex usually only go low when people are in car and they provide to soft of a ride.

u sure there not upside down?
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Old 9th June 2008, 12:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

Hey, yea, I heard for jamex, u normally have to wait for it to drop. can be a couple of weeks
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Old 9th June 2008, 01:17 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

What sort of Integra? Are they the right ones, any numbers on them? Are they new? You haven't doubled up on seats? Did you let it down off the jack then tighten the bolts, it'll sit high if not.

Can't think of much else which might do it.
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Old 9th June 2008, 03:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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angle grinder mate!!
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Old 9th June 2008, 05:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

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angle grinder mate!!
SNT WAAAAAAT!

id stick with the neuspeeds, they are a far superior spring than jamex
if you want it lower than that, i suggest saving up for some coilovers
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Old 9th June 2008, 06:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

neuspeeds FTW, Coilovers if you want to go lower. Or fill your car up with your mates + bags or sand lol.
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Old 9th June 2008, 08:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

firstly have you read this ??

aftermarket springs read here

secondly, are we sure all the correct information was passed on ?? maybe mr jamex has sent you springs for the wrong model of car based on the information provided ??

I happen to know the owner of jamex and ive fitted alot of his product and Its bizzare that these springs work for so many people but not you ??

Tell you what, pm me the details.....do you have the box they came in ?? give me the details of the label on the box and details of your car (model etc) and ill see if I can resolve this for you.
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Old 9th June 2008, 09:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

Kinda glad my jamex's got sent to the wrong place and I had to get king superlows instead now. I didn't think jamex's were crap.
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Old 9th June 2008, 09:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

Heh, welll... I wouldn't go so far as to say your average set of Kings are any better ! Their race stuff is decent, but your average Mag N Turbo "Kings Lowering Kit" I wouldn't ever put in any of my cars.
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Old 9th June 2008, 09:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

ok lets clarify something here
jamex/king springs are not "crap" for the majority of people out there that wanna "sack their car au SNT WAAAT" they are perfectly fine for everyday use. they dump your car on its ass which is what the hoes want right?
but the majority of regular posters on nzh are more into the performance aspect of their cars and prefer a more "sportier" ride and better handling, which kings/jamex are not exactly renound for.
if you just wanna lower your car then kings/jamex are perfectly fine.
if you want to lower it, have a firmer and better handling ride, go with dobis or stick with the neuspeeds you already have
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Old 9th June 2008, 10:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

Right..
Aparently I have got the corect spring for the job, just that it doesnt work
Ive talked to the jamex guy a couple times..
and he's pretty much not interested..
seems the product is a bit like the service.
First they send me the wrong seats then the wrong springs, and some how its all my fault!
Just annoying really.. spose I wil just throw them on TM.. meh its only money im losing..
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Old 9th June 2008, 11:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

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ok lets clarify something here
jamex/king springs are not "crap" for the majority of people out there that wanna "sack their car au SNT WAAAT" they are perfectly fine for everyday use. they dump your car on its ass which is what the hoes want right?
but the majority of regular posters on nzh are more into the performance aspect of their cars and prefer a more "sportier" ride and better handling, which kings/jamex are not exactly renound for.
if you just wanna lower your car then kings/jamex are perfectly fine.
if you want to lower it, have a firmer and better handling ride, go with dobis or stick with the neuspeeds you already have
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Old 10th June 2008, 09:32 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

jamex wont go lower as superlow king springs...sell the jamex dude,,,heheehe
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Old 10th June 2008, 01:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

at the end of the day if you want to go super low and still have travel you are going to need to shorten the shocks, muck around with everything etc.

OORRR just buy some complete adjustable suspension, like BC, D2, K sport, TEIN, SKUNK2, and all the others.

yes you need a cert for around $350-$400 but then you won't have the mission of getting low on stock shocks with no travel and uncaptive springs. Failing WOF's etc
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Old 10th June 2008, 08:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

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Right..
Aparently I have got the corect spring for the job, just that it doesnt work
Ive talked to the jamex guy a couple times..
and he's pretty much not interested..
seems the product is a bit like the service.
First they send me the wrong seats then the wrong springs, and some how its all my fault!
Just annoying really.. spose I wil just throw them on TM.. meh its only money im losing..

did you not read my post ???

It actually sounds to me that you arnt the easiest customer in the world to deal with.....someone offers to help you out and you ignore it completly (namely me!! ).......No doubt you didnt listen to anything he told you and started ranting and raving as you are here and thats why he's not bloddy interested in you.

Why would they not work in your car and yet they do in so many others of the same model ???

1: fitted incorrectly (either upside down or front to back wrong or both) (did you fit them yourself ?)
2: packaging error (packaged incorrect kit from the factory)
3: there is no 3 really

last chance ill look into it further for you if you send me all the information but to be honest it seems you arnt willing to help yourself...
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Old 11th June 2008, 11:46 AM   #23 (permalink)
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did you not read my post ???

It actually sounds to me that you arnt the easiest customer in the world to deal with.....someone offers to help you out and you ignore it completly (namely me!! ).......No doubt you didnt listen to anything he told you and started ranting and raving as you are here and thats why he's not bloddy interested in you.

Why would they not work in your car and yet they do in so many others of the same model ???

1: fitted incorrectly (either upside down or front to back wrong or both) (did you fit them yourself ?)
2: packaging error (packaged incorrect kit from the factory)
3: there is no 3 really

last chance ill look into it further for you if you send me all the information but to be honest it seems you arnt willing to help yourself...

Sorry bud, I must have mised your first post..

Anyways There Is no operator error at all for this one..

The jamex springs for starter had a free length about 25-30mm longer, at first i thought that it would be cool as they might have had a very low spring rate.
But when i fitted them i noticed they needed to be compressed quite a lot where the Neuspeed spring needed no compressing at all.

I then started to try and fit them and I noteced the rubber hat at the top was to small cause the outer dia. of the spring was larger..

so it was all bad really..

The spring part number I got was #35132 which aparently is right for a DA integra.

There was no box for the springs, someone just ripped a hole into the side of the seat box and popped them in there.

Anyways, as far as me being a hard person to deal with...
When I spend my hard earned on something I expect it to be right. I am only human so i expect that sometimes other humans make slight errors, so first i try to rectify it at the lowest possable level. But when im told to remove the rubber hat at the top of my suspension because thats how you make it lower????? then my eyebrows started to get raised..
I was really annoyd with how i was treated from the jamex crew..
Firstly I asked for RED seats, which I won on the trade me auction, and what arrived. black ones..
I rang and asked about it and was told i woould have to bring them down, I was like, I live in kerikeri! thats a 7 hour round trip! but that was all he had to offer. their mistake but i had to pay for it..
Then there was the springs. Im no idiot when it comes to cars bud but i thought that i may have missed something (like wrong shocks etc etc in my car) as i was an engine reconditioner for 3 years prior to my 8 as a mecanic! And in that time i have built a hell of a lot of cars..

so no im not an asss of a customer to deal with.. I just want a fair deal!
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Re: Why isnt my car getting low?

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The jamex springs for starter had a free length about 25-30mm longer, at first i thought that it would be cool as they might have had a very low spring rate.
But when i fitted them i noticed they needed to be compressed quite a lot where the Neuspeed spring needed no compressing at all.

I then started to try and fit them and I noteced the rubber hat at the top was to small cause the outer dia. of the spring was larger.
I'm mostly familiar with EF's but that info tells me - wrong springs. I've done various Jamex, King and Neuspeed and they've all been similar lengths and diameter and only needed maybe 1/2" compression, DA should be the same scenario. Doesn't sound right.
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yeah I agree with you SOICHIO, i think i have Jamex sending me a second set.. aparently they could have used the wrong wire size..
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