Camber problem, then after lowering gets worse..

[Might_e_mowse]

I have an ef2 converted b16a, when i picked up the car the wheels were on a slight camber, nothing too serious. Then after lowering it 50mm it obviously got worse, but a lot worse..

The wheel tilts inward at the top which is negative camber, so i went to the haynes repair manual to see how difficult it is to fix and it says the camber is not adjustable on these cars..

As the engine conversion was from 1500 carb to 1600 dohc vtec im guessing that plays a big role..

Has anyone else had the same problem?

Any help appreciated

[tec2nv]

camber adj bushes for the rear arms.

[Tofu]

EF's, EG's and DA's seem to have this problem alot when going very low. at one stage of my friends lowering nightmare his car had -4.5 degree camber on the rear wheels.

adjustable camber plates should help to fix this.

might pay to see a fbi for a camber correction kit. if they don't have them im sure they could point you in the right direction (any suspension specialist).

might wanna get that sorted soon as it'll rip through your tyres

[Might_e_mowse]

Originally Posted by Tofu

EF's, EG's and DA's seem to have this problem alot when going very low. at one stage of my friends lowering nightmare his car had -4.5 degree camber on the rear wheels.

adjustable camber plates should help to fix this.

might pay to see a fbi for a camber correction kit. if they don't have them im sure they could point you in the right direction (any suspension specialist).

might wanna get that sorted soon as it'll rip through your tyres

haha its not going anywhere anyway..

it has been one hell of a week, muffler wont fit on without more mod, waterpump broken, and now this..
why does it all happen at once :cry:

[tec2nv]

Stocks Auto Parts do a SUPERPRO urethane camber correction bushes- 09 270 7222 or try Autolign for Nolathane....

otherwise yeah FBI for the correction arms.

depends on home much negitive you got, the bushes i believe will give you up to 1 degree.

[Might_e_mowse]

Originally Posted by tec2nv

Stocks Auto Parts do a SUPERPRO urethane camber correction bushes- 09 270 7222 or try Autolign for Nolathane....

otherwise yeah FBI for the correction arms.

depends on home much negitive you got, the bushes i believe will give you up to 1 degree.

im pretty sure it is more than 1 degree but not by much..

[Civic_on_bumps]

umm dude really what was you thinking the camber would get better if you lowered it ?? my tyres lasted like 4Months but. . . . . . . . get camber kits or use washers on the rear

[Spanky69r]

Originally Posted by Civic_on_bumps

umm dude really what was you thinking the camber would get better if you lowered it ?? my tyres lasted like 4Months but. . . . . . . . get camber kits or use washers on the rear

yip same as me
17" tyres were lasting me 4 mths haha

[Disinfo]

Originally Posted by Might_e_mowse

im pretty sure it is more than 1 degree but not by much..

1 degree is nothing - not even worth worrying about.

If it's really visible it's likely to be a hell of a lot more than that though.

[SQUERT]

adjustable camber plates should help to fix this.

Just wondering how much these cost?

My EF has some pretty wicked camber on the fronts.But personally I think it's worth the tyres hehe

[hobbes]

Autoalighn in Mt Wellington do an ajustable upper balljoint to suit EF's that is desighned to dail out excessive negative camber, of the top of my head doesabout -1 to +3.5 degrees of movement and costs around $300.

[Grin-T]

I have about -3 degrees up front...

Time to invest in a camber kit...

[Might_e_mowse]

Originally Posted by Civic_on_bumps

umm dude really what was you thinking the camber would get better if you lowered it ?? my tyres lasted like 4Months but. . . . . . . . get camber kits or use washers on the rear

No i knew it was going to get worse but not this much worse..

[Civic_on_bumps]

yer well you can get camber kits unless your cars to low i have to have mine camber to fit i can straighten up

[Pnut]

Originally Posted by $CENSLS1$

Just wondering how much these cost?

My EF has some pretty wicked camber on the fronts.But personally I think it's worth the tyres hehe

The only sort of "plates" that can adjust camber on an EF are the washers added to the rear to correct them, the fronts must have either adjustable A-arm pivot bushes (Ingalls style) or total replacement ajustable A-arm's ($$$$). The superpro ones have bugger all adjustment in them, and IMHO if you are having camber issues you will be normally be needing more than 1 degree's correction which renders them pretty worthless. Also their design is an offset hole bush, so in all reality there is not alot holding them in the right place when the wheel gets knocked like running over a decent bump or pot hole. I had the Ingalls on the EF9 i had, they did the job well with loads of adjustment and had its own locking mechanism which seemed to work fine.

From my experiance lowering 30-40mm on an EF will give you negative 3-3.5 degrees on the front and about negative 2 degree's on the rear, so on superlows at a 50mm drop will only be worse. Factory specs are 0 to negative 1 degree on all corners so if you are at -1 you are within factory specs, most say up to -2 is still ok for drivability and tyre wear but after that you can expect it to get worse.

Also remember when lowering to get a wheel alignment done asap after, even if the camber is out and can't be fixed the toe will need to be adjusted and if left will wear tyres 10 x as fast as camber will.

[Might_e_mowse]

Originally Posted by Pnut

The only sort of "plates" that can adjust camber on an EF are the washers added to the rear to correct them, the fronts must have either adjustable A-arm pivot bushes (Ingalls style) or total replacement ajustable A-arm's ($$$$). The superpro ones have bugger all adjustment in them, and IMHO if you are having camber issues you will be normally be needing more than 1 degree's correction which renders them pretty worthless. Also their design is an offset hole bush, so in all reality there is not alot holding them in the right place when the wheel gets knocked like running over a decent bump or pot hole. I had the Ingalls on the EF9 i had, they did the job well with loads of adjustment and had its own locking mechanism which seemed to work fine.

From my experiance lowering 30-40mm on an EF will give you negative 3-3.5 degrees on the front and about negative 2 degree's on the rear, so on superlows at a 50mm drop will only be worse. Factory specs are 0 to negative 1 degree on all corners so if you are at -1 you are within factory specs, most say up to -2 is still ok for drivability and tyre wear but after that you can expect it to get worse.

Also remember when lowering to get a wheel alignment done asap after, even if the camber is out and can't be fixed the toe will need to be adjusted and if left will wear tyres 10 x as fast as camber will.

Yeh i got superlows and it is pretty bad at the front but the back is barely noticable..
where can i get these ingalls?? and how much approx??

[bigwillsvtec]

Hey guys. Ive been trying to sort out a problem im having and the best priced camber kits come from STA, they have a huge range of different kits and they should have one that would suit..

[Might_e_mowse]

Originally Posted by bigwillsvtec

Hey guys. Ive been trying to sort out a problem im having and the best priced camber kits come from STA, they have a huge range of different kits and they should have one that would suit..

Sweet cheers for givin me a push in the right direction