i need to go faster - like seriously!

[Blake]

i want my car to go faster - air flow they tell me is a major when starting out. so im getting a k&n 57i induction kit. so now i suppose i need the other end to be fixed aye! so tell me what will give me better performance? hmmm oh yeah its a euro car - but hey were all family huh. 2L 8v o yeah! hahaha so anyone got any ideas? thanks heaps - seriously

[MarkNZ]

intake, headers/extractors and exhaust.these are the basics and will make about 10% (roughly) more power.if you do these first youll get the most potential from furthe modifications such as cams etc.what kind of euro is it?

[endles]

Buy a honda 8)
no seriously buy a honda Vtec
you wont regret it

[Blake]

my car is a peugeot 306 xsi - 94
so you have no ideas about what kind of exhaust to get blah blah blah?
i want something a little different than the average jap car thats why i got a euro. each to their own huh! mmmm euro mmmmm
i think of it like euro girls beat jap girls so euro cars are better than jap ones hahahhaa!!

[90CIVICSIR]

Originally Posted by endles

Buy a honda 8)
no seriously buy a honda Vtec
you wont regret it

no really he is not kidding. you will never regret it. i am on my seccond honda and i havnt looked back (not that i had much to look back on but thats not the point) once you have had vtec you will never want anything elce. unless you want raw HP and then you will go v8 but if you do you are gay

[F1ERCE]

The heck is this doing in the FI forum?

Moved: Tech Help

[MarkNZ]

he might have been trying to tell him to get a turbo kit for it!
anyway, you should really grab a European magazine, even stuff like Max Power has the occasional review of exhausts etc.Or check the web out to see what opther people are doing and reccommend for your car.
If i was you i would get a back box made by Remus or someother Euro place, then get a 2&1/4 inch exhaust made up by someone like Beyond or something.

[Blake]

yeah ive checked out a lot of the max power stuff - thanks for the input peps, just i thought you might know of a good exhaust or system (universal) that would work on my car. by the way how does a back box work?

[STR8LN]

If it is the same as the Stockcar that I used to crew on, the "box" is meant to be the same litre amount as the engine.

ie. 2 litre engine = 2 litre box?

[FLYRYD]

Originally Posted by Blake

i think of it like euro girls beat jap girls so euro cars are better than jap ones hahahhaa!!

MmMmmMmmmm jap girls.... short assssss skirts. Mmmmm
MMmmmMMm euro girls.......
yeh MmmmmMmmm girls beat cars!!

[MarkNZ]

i think 'back box' is a british term for the muffler and exhaust tip. so a N1 muffler is a N1 backbox in British talk.surely there is a Euro tuner round here?

[crshbndct]

Originally Posted by MarkNZ

i think 'back box' is a british term for the muffler and exhaust tip. so a N1 muffler is a N1 backbox in British talk.surely there is a Euro tuner round here?

well 'round these parts, "back box" isnt a term for a car part :twisted:

[90CIVICSIR]

Originally Posted by crshbndct

well 'round these parts, "back box" isnt a term for a car part :twisted:

HA HA. but anywho. yeah i have had my rps muffler called a back box before so yeah thats what i think when i hear the term.

[-MADBUZ-]

Although im a honda fan now that i have one, i still have a sweet spot for euro cars.

Dude dont let them put you off i've seen another model like yours and all i see is talent........ all talent!!!!

[Blake]

hahhahaha well im feeling a bit better about it - now that someone actually sees talent in my car! im preping my mouldings and stuff like that this week for when my mate sprays it on sat at his work. cant wait to have it colour coded. bumpers and mirrors mmm yeah. gonna have a chat to pit stop about an exhaust - get it de-catted and have a resonator on it. ive been speaking to pxpx if ya didnt know. thinking of importing an induction kit from the uk too. just that its hard getting pipes to fit the ones i have on my pug. mmmmm need an induction kit!

[crshbndct]

Manufacturer
Peugeot

Type
S-4

SOHC
8 valves total
2 valves per cylinder

Bore × stroke
86.00mm × 86.00mm

3.39 in × 3.39 in

Bore/Stroke ratio
1

Displacement
1998 cc
(121.925 cu in)

Unitary capacity
499.5 cc/cylinder

Construction


Coolant
Water

Main bearings
5

Compression ratio
9.50:1

Fuel system
Marelli 08 fuel inj.

Aspiration
Normal

Max. output
(DIN)
121.0 bhp (90.2 kW)
@5750 rpm

Max. torque
(DIN)
176.0 nm (130 lbft) (17.9 kgm)
@2750 rpm

[crshbndct]

there yougo

now try this:
cams to suit 4000-7500, port polish, headers, 2.5 exhaust with rps muffler, shave head for c/r of 10.5:1, and get a proper custom chip written, dont waste $$ on a fancy imported filter, just plonk a k&n in the airbox and put some hose on it, get some decent tyres for better traction, get a tuff clutch, lighten flywheel, cam gears, and remove your aircon and power steering.

that should get you from 90 kw to 110 kw at least more power, and a lot more torque with the c/r increase, then look at a set of forged piston and a 80 hp nos shot

[MarkNZ]

wow, sounds like a plan CRSHBNDT.

[Blake]

hmmm well well well well well. ok as i wade through the information in front of me which can look a lot like binary code. i suppose i should ask what it all means. cams to suit 4500-7000 means cams to suit those revs right? how much does that cost as a roughie? polish the port and headers - what does this entail? and this was the oddest one - shave head for c/r of 10.5:1 - that is ? and with the air box do u suggest i take it out and put some hoses that come from around near the front of the bumber blowing onto it or what? and removing my air con and power steering tell me is that a question of just stopping the hoses or what? one last thing how did u know too do all of that - shit!

sincerely yours

uniformed peugeot driver - *yikes*

[crshbndct]

yeah cams that suit 4000+ revs. they will make your fuel consumption go a bit squiggly, but still better than a turbo, and if you are launching at 3000+ revs should be sweet. depending on cam technology, you may get a cam that suits 2000+ revs thu till 7000, im not sure how good sohc cams can be.

shaving head is basically getting a thin sliver of metal taken out of the head, to make the combustion chamber smaller, thereby giving a higher compression ratio(c/r)

port polishing is where they take the head off, and polish all the ports and "tunnels" that gas has to flow thru, so that it can flow a bit more.

headers are extractors.
for the airbox, just get a k&n airfilter, put it into the existing airbox, and get a piece of hose and pipe air from a cold place at the front of the car to the airbox, and seal off the other holes, so that it only sucks thru the one pipe.

you dont need to remove your aircon and power steer, get a underdrive pulley, this will free up a few more kw for under $200.
also, get your throttle body bored out.

try http://www.ecosse-peugeot.co.uk - they talk about a 2.0 s16(dohc) engine that makes 120 kw already, and with those mods can probably make 190+hp

[crshbndct]

or you could even go the whole hog and get a 3.0 v6 24v engine put in, it should fit, and you can get 230-240 hp from them easy


and if anyone is wondering why i like pugs, its cos i was born in one

[Blake]

hey thanks for all your advice. why would you suggest to retain my standard sized panel filter and refit with a k&n one rather than say get an induction kit or a pod filter? also i take it that most of the modifications you are talking about are professional jobs huh! why do some people refer to Hp as Kw sometimes? or are they just confussed - err like me! am i right in thinking that new cams etc are quite a major? again thanks heaps for you time!