whats a good digicam?

Kelsonmassif · 29th July 2003, 04:54 PM

im looking for a new digi cam, thought it was about time i stopped using disposable cameras....

was looking at a canon g3....

any thoughts on some decent cameras with some nice features..

ive got a max limit of about $1000

Princess · 29th July 2003, 05:45 PM

my boyfriend has a casio one, it has a microphone on it so u can do movies with sound, and also a mp3 option. so u can have songs in the camera and listen to them thru some headphones that come with the camera. his i think was about 1000. i think its 2.5 megapixels...
you need to buy a memory card at the same time though. my camera only holds 20 pics, and his, about the same i think... :evil:

David R · 29th July 2003, 05:51 PM

I always like sony, but havent had much experience with anything else.....

gazmaster · 29th July 2003, 06:01 PM

go the canon ones they are awesome
I have a Canon S45 and it is the shit!!
Movie function is really good (nothing compared with digi video camera), the picture quality is amazing and it's easy to use.
I think it was around the $1000 price range too, although it was selling for up to $1400 in some stores :wink:

endles · 29th July 2003, 06:20 PM

Go canon!
Have you seen the G5... its the shit! 8)

near $1G, maybe the S50.... 5 Megapixels, RAW imaging, F 2.6, and a shit load more....

its the Jizz

yeah but like I said G5 :wink: RRP$1799.95

Kelsonmassif · 29th July 2003, 06:21 PM

allready got a digi video cam, so i dont really mind on the quality of the mpegs etc....

just some really good megapixel figures. and some good photography features, the movie thing is still a little gimik...

FLYRYD · 29th July 2003, 06:24 PM

the sony cybershots are really nice cameras. small and high quality

endles · 29th July 2003, 06:38 PM

Sony is rubbish with digi cams. They are electronics company paying $$$ for fancy lens to give the impression of a good camera.
Just the same with HP, Panasonic etc.
Look for CANON, NIKON, FUJI there all good.
The brands like canon dont boust about brand names on lenses etc, they concentraite on camera terms such as aperchea (?spelling) and F factor etc.

PS, you only need 1.5Megapixels to get a 4x6" photo print in photo quality.
2MP will get you close to 5x11"
5MP will give you an A3 print 8O

Megapixels mean very little with digicams once you get a certain amount.
2MP will do most, 3.2MP for enlarging prints.

Then all you need is a Photo printer, which will play a bigger roll in quality of prints than the camera!
Look at what the Canon i850 can do, or even the i950 8)
CP-100 is sweet if you want just 4x6" prints

Disinfo · 29th July 2003, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazmaster

go the canon ones they are awesome
I have a Canon S45 and it is the shit!!
Movie function is really good (nothing compared with digi video camera), the picture quality is amazing and it's easy to use.
I think it was around the $1000 price range too, although it was selling for up to $1400 in some stores :wink:

The S45 is a very, very good camera. My dad just got one, absolutely awesome image quality, and heaps of manual overrides if you're keen

I think he paid about $1000 with an additional 128mb card and carry case.

GecKo · 29th July 2003, 07:17 PM

Canon make elite cameras, full stop.

http://www.shell.net.nz/random/images/canon/

Thats some random ones that i've taken, and not reduced in size in photoshop like I normally do. These are taken in medium settings, with a 32meg memory stick it can hold 52, on full its something like 12

The amount of features the G3 (what the above pics were taken on) have is insane, I wish I knew how to use it all

Sony also make good cameras, I remember Akane showing me a few he had taken.

What endles says has some truth in it of course, they ARE an electronics company, that are known for good electronics. Their CCD units are one of the best, and paying big money to get good lenses is the best way they can get good images. They have a good reputation for their Carl Zeus cameras.

The mavicas were cool, but gave total shit photos...

Disinfo · 29th July 2003, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GecKo

The mavicas were cool, but gave total shit photos...

Those floppy disk based ones? I reckon they were arse, really big, slow, crappy pictures and could only hold 1.44mb (which wouldn't even be one picture on a modern digicam).

Back when those Mavicas were common I used a Fuji MX-700 - it's outmoded now, but for the time took awesome pictures, was small and could hold heaps on an 8mb card. Plus you just slipped the card into a floppy disk sized adaptor and stuck it straight into your floppy drive - very convinient

Pdu-NZ · 29th July 2003, 08:24 PM

Sony rubbish? pfffft I dont think so. I have the Sony Cybershot, 2.0 Megapixles yada yada, short video, scenes, editing etc etc.. It's the best camera I found and am confident with any sony product...

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Anyone with a Sony Headunit - you should have brought another brand because they are "rubbish".. Anyone with a HP computer, shame on you because they are "rubbish"

.. haha sorry, me just being an ass... Ignore..
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Also have a HP desket, and Brother stylis 670... You wouldnt know the difference between a proper photo and one printed on either these...

But I agree, if your serious about photos get a Canon which is why most Journalists use them

but for an everyday photo happy person, sony (even if they do pay $$$$ for lenses

) or Fuji but I find that quality cameras are high in the price range, and a good soney one will set you back about $600-900..

Disinfo · 29th July 2003, 09:50 PM

Get something more than 2 megapixel though, thats entry level now.

BTW HP computers ARE rubbish

, but I agree Sony make some good stuff, I'm just not too keen on most of their cheaper audio equipment.

endles · 29th July 2003, 10:07 PM

Just quoting stuff that im taught through work and from personal experience. I do sell all the aformentioned brands...

If you want a small sexy little digicam, go for one of the Canon IXUS range.... brushed alloy/titanium finish, up to 4.0MP, and most under $1000

b18cpower · 29th July 2003, 11:04 PM

Ive been looking at getting a digicam too. Think im gonna get the Sony DSC-V1. Very small and stylie with exceptional quality photos.

Bit pricey though. Between 1100 - 1500 depending on if you can get it wholesale.

heres a good review of the above:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/so...ew/index.shtml

Cannon is a good brand but in my opinion their cameras look gay. If your gonna spend upwards of a grand on a piece of electronic gadetry it kinda needs to look the part. They do have the advantage of using generic memory. Sony forces you to pay through the teeth for branded stuff.

endles · 29th July 2003, 11:32 PM

Oh so sexy 8)

Dezigns · 30th July 2003, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endles

Sony is rubbish with digi cams. They are electronics company paying $$$ for fancy lens to give the impression of a good camera.
Just the same with HP, Panasonic etc.
Look for CANON, NIKON, FUJI there all good.
The brands like canon dont boust about brand names on lenses etc, they concentraite on camera terms such as aperchea (?spelling) and F factor etc.

PS, you only need 1.5Megapixels to get a 4x6" photo print in photo quality.
2MP will get you close to 5x11"
5MP will give you an A3 print 8O

Megapixels mean very little with digicams once you get a certain amount.
2MP will do most, 3.2MP for enlarging prints.

Then all you need is a Photo printer, which will play a bigger roll in quality of prints than the camera!
Look at what the Canon i850 can do, or even the i950 8)
CP-100 is sweet if you want just 4x6" prints

Most of what endless said is right, although I dont agree on the Sony thing..
Nikon uses a Sony CCD in their flagship D100 camera, so not too sure where you are coming from on that note

Thats what it all comes down to with a digicam, the CCD.
The CCD is what detects the light and determines picture quality.

In consumer grade cameras, they use an interline transfer CCD, which uses electronic methods (that are waaay too technical to get into here) to determine colors etc. Because of this, only 30% of the CCD is effective pixel area, so a 3 megapixel camera is suddenly only outputting 1 megapixel. (Companies boast big numbers to look impressive)

In prosumer/professional cameras, they will use a full frame CCD, which doesnt require all the electronic crap to determine light etc, and almost the entire CCD can be used (70-80

. The entire CCD buffer is shifted into memory where its processed as a RAW image.
This is how a 2-3mpixel pro camera can give better shots than a consumer 4-5 mpixel.

I currently have a Minolta DImage7Hi, which falls into the prosumer category, awesome camera

Also have a Sony Mavica, one of those floppy disc based ones... Took advantage of their 'floppy disc adapter', which allows you to use Sony memory sticks with them. A 16mb card will suffice for space for over 200 images at 800x600. Sure it's slow and cumbersome, doesnt exactly look all that great, but it has battery life like you wouldnt believe, and does everything I want it to as a general camera.

It all depends on what you want the camera for, if its general snaps, you dont need to look past 2mpixel, especially if you are going to put them online as you will (hopefully) resize and compress them with jpeg anyway.

Try Parallel Imports Ltd on Paul Mathews Drive in Albany, significantly cheaper than retail

[Edit] Just noticed you're in Welly... perhaps find a camera you like and then call them to see what price they can do it for

Kelsonmassif · 30th July 2003, 10:16 AM

behold the canon g3

this is on top of my list so far

Woody · 30th July 2003, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelsonmassif

behold the canon g3

I was just messing with one of those for work, I'd have to say I was impressed.

GecKo · 30th July 2003, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezigns

Thats what it all comes down to with a digicam, the CCD.
The CCD is what detects the light and determines picture quality.

Exactly... Sony CCD's are mint. I think the smartest thing they've done is sort out their lenses with the Carl Zeus deal they've got going.

Quote:

Originally Posted by endles

I do sell all the aformentioned brands...

Same!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelsonmassif

behold the canon g3 - this is on top of my list so far

Good choice. They're definately worth the money

Matty · 30th July 2003, 06:34 PM

Just got a Sony DSCP92 (5megapixel) for $735.44. Just thought I'd share that. :wink: That's at some serious mate's rate's tho. It does everything I need it for and it seems solid enough.

As for the HP computers being crap - it all depends on what scale you're looking at. Both NZ's EFTPOS networks (ETSL and EFTPOS NZ) run on HP Non Stop servers (previously known as Tandem Himalayas until HP bought them out), and the whole system is incredibly reliable - I can only think of one outage we've had in 5 years that was due to a failure on our machine, and that was cos we were waiting for our new machine to be built and were overclocking the Tandem. Availability for us was 99.999997% for the past 7 months, on a 24x7 basis. It helps when you've got a minimum of 6 CPUs and every CPU, disk, controller, and critical process has an active backup. And one can be yours for a few million.

*coughGeekcough*

Disinfo · 30th July 2003, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty

...

Okay then, HPs PC aimed at the home market (Pavilions) suck

endles · 30th July 2003, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty

Just got a Sony DSCP92 (5megapixel) for $735.44. Just thought I'd share that. :wink: That's at some serious mate's rate's tho. It does everything I need it for and it seems solid enough.

Thats a seriously good deal...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty

As for the HP computers being crap - it all depends on what scale you're looking at. Both NZ's EFTPOS networks (ETSL and EFTPOS NZ) run on HP Non Stop servers (previously known as Tandem Himalayas until HP bought them out)

I think that says it all

And now they have bought compaq for its reputaion in workstaions etc

Matty · 30th July 2003, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endles

And now they have bought compaq for its reputaion in workstaions etc

Uh, yeah, forgot about Compaq! Tandem was originally bought by Digital, who were bought by Compaq about a week later. Then HP swallowed Compaq.

We just trashed two old Tandems last week but kept all the Tandem badges, so we've stuck them on some of our Compaq PCs just to piss them off.

BrettyBoy · 30th July 2003, 08:30 PM

Ive got a Nikon coolpix 2 Megapixal digi cam and have never had any problems with it. It takes great pictures and is easy to use.

29th July 2003, 04:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
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gazmaster Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,995 Location: Christchurch	go the canon ones they are awesome I have a Canon S45 and it is the shit!! Movie function is really good (nothing compared with digi video camera), the picture quality is amazing and it's easy to use. I think it was around the $1000 price range too, although it was selling for up to $1400 in some stores :wink: __________________ John said you'd mod me if I put it in my sig \| Ex-DA6 113.5kW @ 7300rpm. It's gone... "Take off your coat... it's gonna be a long night!!"

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endles Team NZH: Retired 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,489 Location: Dunedin	Go canon! Have you seen the G5... its the shit! 8) near $1G, maybe the S50.... 5 Megapixels, RAW imaging, F 2.6, and a shit load more.... its the Jizz yeah but like I said G5 :wink: RRP$1799.95 __________________ ATOMIK! Car Audio & Security 22 Fox Street South Dunedin For all your Car Audio and Security needs (and wants)

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Kelsonmassif Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,403 Location: Wellington	allready got a digi video cam, so i dont really mind on the quality of the mpegs etc.... just some really good megapixel figures. and some good photography features, the movie thing is still a little gimik... __________________ 60% of the time, works every time

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FLYRYD Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,553 Location: Auckland	the sony cybershots are really nice cameras. small and high quality __________________ 2003 S2000 Type-V. The S stands for slow

29th July 2003, 05:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Princess Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	my boyfriend has a casio one, it has a microphone on it so u can do movies with sound, and also a mp3 option. so u can have songs in the camera and listen to them thru some headphones that come with the camera. his i think was about 1000. i think its 2.5 megapixels... you need to buy a memory card at the same time though. my camera only holds 20 pics, and his, about the same i think... :evil:

29th July 2003, 06:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
endles Team NZH: Retired 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,489 Location: Dunedin	Sony is rubbish with digi cams. They are electronics company paying $$$ for fancy lens to give the impression of a good camera. Just the same with HP, Panasonic etc. Look for CANON, NIKON, FUJI there all good. The brands like canon dont boust about brand names on lenses etc, they concentraite on camera terms such as aperchea (?spelling) and F factor etc. PS, you only need 1.5Megapixels to get a 4x6" photo print in photo quality. 2MP will get you close to 5x11" 5MP will give you an A3 print 8O Megapixels mean very little with digicams once you get a certain amount. 2MP will do most, 3.2MP for enlarging prints. Then all you need is a Photo printer, which will play a bigger roll in quality of prints than the camera! Look at what the Canon i850 can do, or even the i950 8) CP-100 is sweet if you want just 4x6" prints __________________ ATOMIK! Car Audio & Security 22 Fox Street South Dunedin For all your Car Audio and Security needs (and wants)

29th July 2003, 07:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
GecKo Team NZH: Admin 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,823 Location: Westport	Canon make elite cameras, full stop. http://www.shell.net.nz/random/images/canon/ Thats some random ones that i've taken, and not reduced in size in photoshop like I normally do. These are taken in medium settings, with a 32meg memory stick it can hold 52, on full its something like 12 The amount of features the G3 (what the above pics were taken on) have is insane, I wish I knew how to use it all Sony also make good cameras, I remember Akane showing me a few he had taken. What endles says has some truth in it of course, they ARE an electronics company, that are known for good electronics. Their CCD units are one of the best, and paying big money to get good lenses is the best way they can get good images. They have a good reputation for their Carl Zeus cameras. The mavicas were cool, but gave total shit photos... __________________ StubbedToe 'A stubbed toe is rarely a serious injury, but the shock of a sharp blow to a sensitive part of the body can really bring tears to your eyes'

29th July 2003, 08:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pdu-NZ Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,421 Location: Hamilton	Sony rubbish? pfffft I dont think so. I have the Sony Cybershot, 2.0 Megapixles yada yada, short video, scenes, editing etc etc.. It's the best camera I found and am confident with any sony product... ------------------------------ Anyone with a Sony Headunit - you should have brought another brand because they are "rubbish".. Anyone with a HP computer, shame on you because they are "rubbish" .. haha sorry, me just being an ass... Ignore.. ------------------------------- Also have a HP desket, and Brother stylis 670... You wouldnt know the difference between a proper photo and one printed on either these... But I agree, if your serious about photos get a Canon which is why most Journalists use them but for an everyday photo happy person, sony (even if they do pay $$$$ for lenses ) or Fuji but I find that quality cameras are high in the price range, and a good soney one will set you back about $600-900.. __________________ Current: 1997 Nissan Primera Neo VVL Wagon Manual. Need your PS Pump or Alternator rebuilt? PM Me.

29th July 2003, 09:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Disinfo Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,938 Location: Ahipara	Get something more than 2 megapixel though, thats entry level now. BTW HP computers ARE rubbish , but I agree Sony make some good stuff, I'm just not too keen on most of their cheaper audio equipment. __________________ No more Honda Scientology

29th July 2003, 10:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
endles Team NZH: Retired 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,489 Location: Dunedin	Just quoting stuff that im taught through work and from personal experience. I do sell all the aformentioned brands... If you want a small sexy little digicam, go for one of the Canon IXUS range.... brushed alloy/titanium finish, up to 4.0MP, and most under $1000 __________________ ATOMIK! Car Audio & Security 22 Fox Street South Dunedin For all your Car Audio and Security needs (and wants)

29th July 2003, 11:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
b18cpower Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 629 Location: Auckland	Ive been looking at getting a digicam too. Think im gonna get the Sony DSC-V1. Very small and stylie with exceptional quality photos. Bit pricey though. Between 1100 - 1500 depending on if you can get it wholesale. heres a good review of the above: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/so...ew/index.shtml Cannon is a good brand but in my opinion their cameras look gay. If your gonna spend upwards of a grand on a piece of electronic gadetry it kinda needs to look the part. They do have the advantage of using generic memory. Sony forces you to pay through the teeth for branded stuff. __________________ BB4 Prelude - 14.3 @ 156kph

29th July 2003, 11:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
endles Team NZH: Retired 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,489 Location: Dunedin	Oh so sexy 8) __________________ ATOMIK! Car Audio & Security 22 Fox Street South Dunedin For all your Car Audio and Security needs (and wants)

30th July 2003, 10:16 AM	#18 (permalink)
Kelsonmassif Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,403 Location: Wellington	behold the canon g3 this is on top of my list so far __________________ 60% of the time, works every time

30th July 2003, 06:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
Matty Team NZH: Mod 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 9,144 Location: Hastings	Just got a Sony DSCP92 (5megapixel) for $735.44. Just thought I'd share that. :wink: That's at some serious mate's rate's tho. It does everything I need it for and it seems solid enough. As for the HP computers being crap - it all depends on what scale you're looking at. Both NZ's EFTPOS networks (ETSL and EFTPOS NZ) run on HP Non Stop servers (previously known as Tandem Himalayas until HP bought them out), and the whole system is incredibly reliable - I can only think of one outage we've had in 5 years that was due to a failure on our machine, and that was cos we were waiting for our new machine to be built and were overclocking the Tandem. Availability for us was 99.999997% for the past 7 months, on a 24x7 basis. It helps when you've got a minimum of 6 CPUs and every CPU, disk, controller, and critical process has an active backup. And one can be yours for a few million. coughGeekcough __________________ Not so much a sleeper as requiring CPR...

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BrettyBoy Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 163 Location: Christchurch	Ive got a Nikon coolpix 2 Megapixal digi cam and have never had any problems with it. It takes great pictures and is easy to use.

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