are radar detectors illegal?

[dc1integra]

Originally Posted by Gridlock

why do you need it? if you dont speed your sweet.

be realistic - everyone speeds even though i dont know you i dont think your an exception to the rule

[duncanb]

They're still legal and the Nats won't ban them.

But don't just rely on a detector - sometimes it won't give you enough warning.

[STina]

Originally Posted by lowproz

Isn't it supposed to be you?

Yeah that what I though just havn't heard about it and i know why cause its not a law yet and for the people who put them in the dash if mr cop finds it, it will need to be taken as a exhibit i imagine

[Colza]

In the countries where they are illegal, if you get caught with one you get f**king PWNT

I cant think of any reasons NOT to make them illegal personally. They serve one purpose and one purpose only, to help people break the law.

Why should the government (which ever one it is) support this?

[Trivium]

On another forum someones reason for having one was so he was aware when the "harmfull police radar rays" were hitting him

[d16a7]

Originally Posted by Trivium

On another forum someones reason for having one was so he was aware when the "harmfull police radar rays" were hitting him

nah its to warn him of extra terrestrial activity , they emit radar waves when they are about to invade..

the aliens are coming!!!!

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by dc1integra

be realistic - everyone speeds even though i dont know you i dont think your an exception to the rule

be realistic? go and bark up some other tree mate wat im saying is valid, wat your saying is that speeding is ok, only with a radar. does that sound right? ok yes we have gone over the speed limit in our times but does a radar give you the right to? what is the purpose of a radar? go on, say it in front of the mods.

im sure this has been discussed before.

[Stubs]

THE PURPOSE OF A RADAR DETECTOR IS TO DETECT WHEN POLICE ARE COMING UP TO STOP YOU GETTING hit by their cancer causing radars

There I said it in front of a mod

Chillout dude. Most people only use them for passing when the cancer causing radars can cause financial problems. People who travel the country for work also use them because to be quite honest sometimes they end up speeding without realising it.

[CharlesC]

Because sometimes the road conditions and traffic allows for driving at >100km/h safely. E.g. driving down to ruapehu at 5am on a deserted multilane expressway.

But of course if i was on my high horse i would say that speeding is dangerous at anytime, speed kills and i have never gone past the speed limit at ever!!

[duncanb]

Originally Posted by Colza

I cant think of any reasons NOT to make them illegal personally. They serve one purpose and one purpose only, to help people break the law.

Why should the government (which ever one it is) support this?

I bought mine to reduce the chance of getting tickets. At the time I was driving over 30,000 km a year, and it's just too easy to get a ticket in NZ for stupid things like exceeding the speed limit when overtaking in a passing lane.

I know someone from Sydney who visits NZ regularly. He's used to driving in a city where speed limits are strongly enforced, yet regularly gets speeding tickets in NZ. And he's talked to me about getting a detector to use when he's in NZ (they're banned in NSW)

I'd be quite happy to ditch mine in exchange for a reasonable enforcement policy. But I'm not holding my breath.

Sorry for the rant. Must stop posting in these threads.

[Esprit]

I use my radar detector to drive more safely.

When I'm executing a passing manoeuvre, I'd MUCH rather be scanning the road ahead for hazards while I'm in the "exposed to danger" zone on the other side of the road rather than watching the speedometer paranoid that I'm going to stray over the limit and incur a hefty fine and demerit points on my licence.

I've only had one speeding fine, many many years ago (SCamera for 112km/h, so a minor transgression) and in the last 8 years I've not had a single one... before I had a radar detector or since... I just like the extra peace of mind and confidence the detector gives me to execute traffic manoeuvres safely and with confidence without having to hesitate worrying about whether there's a cop around. A split second hesitation like that could cost me or somebody else their life.

[Pommy]

Lol one of these threads every other week with the same shit..

[grandell]

Originally Posted by Esprit

I use my radar detector to drive more safely.

When I'm executing a passing manoeuvre, I'd MUCH rather be scanning the road ahead for hazards while I'm in the "exposed to danger" zone on the other side of the road rather than watching the speedometer paranoid that I'm going to stray over the limit and incur a hefty fine and demerit points on my licence.

I've only had one speeding fine, many many years ago (SCamera for 112km/h, so a minor transgression) and in the last 8 years I've not had a single one... before I had a radar detector or since... I just like the extra peace of mind and confidence the detector gives me to execute traffic manoeuvres safely and with confidence without having to hesitate worrying about whether there's a cop around. A split second hesitation like that could cost me or somebody else their life.

how many times has your detector saved you from a ticket though?

and if you think speeding happens by accident, you've just failed as a driver if you do that many k's a year on the open road that you're worried about it, buy a car with bloody cruise control

[Esprit]

Originally Posted by grandell

how many times has your detector saved you from a ticket though?

and if you think speeding happens by accident, you've just failed as a driver if you do that many k's a year on the open road that you're worried about it, buy a car with bloody cruise control

It has potentially saved me a few times from getting a ticket. Never have I been speeding and it's told me a copper is around, but on many an occasion have I been about to execute a passing manoeuvre where I knew there was a good chance I would have to exceed the speed limit to do it safely when a warning chirp from the V1 has alerted me to a speed-trap ahead.

I use my V1 because the police are less interested in stopping people speeding in dangerous situations (like the soccer mums I CONSISTENTLY see exceeding 50km/h in their Prados past my local primary school and daycare centre) than they are at setting deliberate "traps" at low-risk roads where people are likely to temporarily exceed the speed limit by a mild amount to execute a passing manoeuvre (like along the ribbon-straight sections of the south Waikato SH1 that break up the twisty sections either side).

As for those who say "if you don't want a ticket, don't speed" I bet y'all a MILLION DOLLARS I could ride shotgun with you for half an hour around Auckland city (or any other metropolitan area) and point out at least one technically illegal thing you did while driving that I could book you for if I was a cop and had a mind to. Things that are just as illegal as speeding.

[Nicolla]

My parents speed more than i do :\ They constantly go over 60kms in a 50km zone and never get pulled.

I just like having my V1 for peice of mind more than anything.

[Colza]

Sure you have good reasons why you might want one, but noone has given me a reason why the government should allow you to have one.

[Esprit]

Originally Posted by Colza

Sure you have good reasons why you might want one, but noone has given me a reason why the government should allow you to have one.

What about because all the research done on the matter shows that people who use a radar detector are actually 28% less likely to be involved in an accident than those without (Source: Mori Report)? Surely that's compelling evidence enough to state that they don't pose a significant safety risk and, quite conversely actually appear to result in people driving MORE safely?

Reason enough for most people I'd think.

[Stubs]

Originally Posted by grandell

how many times has your detector saved you from a ticket though?

and if you think speeding happens by accident, you've just failed as a driver if you do that many k's a year on the open road that you're worried about it, buy a car with bloody cruise control

Well I travelled From Napier to Auckland, round auckland for a couple of hours and then drove back down to napier, then without stopping to palmerston North, round there for an hour or two then back to Napier. On the way back from Palmy I found myself having to really check myself as I was getting up to 120-130 on the straights without realising it.

So after driving for a grand total of 16 hours in one day do I fail as a driver for not realising im going slightly over the limit?

[Dezigns]

Originally Posted by grandell

how many times has your detector saved you from a ticket though?

Many, many, many times

[Trivium]

Originally Posted by Stubs

Well I travelled From Napier to Auckland, round auckland for a couple of hours and then drove back down to napier, then without stopping to palmerston North, round there for an hour or two then back to Napier. On the way back from Palmy I found myself having to really check myself as I was getting up to 120-130 on the straights without realising it.

So after driving for a grand total of 16 hours in one day do I fail as a driver for not realising im going slightly over the limit?

No you fail as a driver for being a fucking danger to the rest of the road users, by not taking enough breaks during the day to ensure your awake and alert

What a winner

[Stubs]

I did a 5 minute stop around every 2 hours depending on when I was and had enough Redbull/ no doez to keep my going. Some truck drivers can rack-up that many driving hours in a day (not so much in NZ) It's possible you just gotta make sure you have someone with you and make sure you pull over/swap drivers when you know you can't drive anymore safely.

Maybe I'm just used to it though. Most Fridays I get up at 6am to go to work on my old mans farm and them I'm out till 3-4am saturday morning.

I'm just saying, it's not like I was struggling to drive or anything, just that my concentration was slightly below my average driving concentration

[Pommy]

LolZ trivium, surely your not that straight-up.. hell i dont have breaks every 2 hours when driving, i dont constantly keep to the limit (rarely if ever cross it by 20kph+) but i sure as hell dont need a radar.. did rock a v1 once but meh, can drive without just fine.

anyone that does take breaks every 2 hours and keeps under the limit needs to get out more

[Colza]

Originally Posted by Esprit

What about because all the research done on the matter shows that people who use a radar detector are actually 28% less likely to be involved in an accident than those without (Source: Mori Report)? Surely that's compelling evidence enough to state that they don't pose a significant safety risk and, quite conversely actually appear to result in people driving MORE safely?

Thats missuse of statistics and you know it.

The data will show that the people who buy radar detectors are often better drivers. There is probably a correllation there, i wont deny that.

That does not in any way imply that having a radar detector makes you a better driver. That is causation and is an entirely seperate argument.

If you take the radar detectors off those people, they will still be good drivers.

[bmgjet]

What about radar detectors that have mp3 and gforce meter built into them, you could just say ur using it for those features.

[Dionysus]

Wat?