TOMORROW: Angry truckies to clog city streets

[Reaper_2000]

no offence but fucking frustrating for a lot of people !!!!!! the interruption.

i can appreciate why they are doing it, but to disrupt everyone who goes to work, thats pathetic

caught train into work to see at least 50 trucks on the motorway blocking ALL the lanes doing 5-10kmh..

funny thing was i saw a few cop cars in the middle of the convoys

[BLAZED_RACER]

nah its not you Dave, that diesel price has just kept quiet in a corner slowly rising in $$$ while we were all complaining about the price rises of regular petrol..!!

cost of diesel is right up there now, once you add all the extra costs in.

I never used to notice the cost to fill the ole van up until a few weeks ago; when it hit me $130.00 for the tank!

[Moclov]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

I meant the employer contribution is coming out as well...

My company offsets yours then My boss pays both the employee and employer contribution out of his own pocket, aaaalright

[WTNESS]

enough is enough, ive had it with these mother fuckin snakes on this mother fucken plane....

shit bitch im always yelling, im samuel motha fuckin jackson!!!

[Pdu-NZ]

One thing I cant get my head around is some of you saying "they made me late for work". If you were late to work, you should have left earlier. The truckies gave 2 days notice of what they were intending to do, unlike miss king who dosnt give a rat's a$$ and dont give anyone any notice.

The truckies are standing up not just for them, but for the majority of the country - as someone said, the rise in RUC's will then bounce back tot he cost of freight which will then be passed to the customer. So excpect food prices to rise again soon.

Its not just the truckies that are getting stung by this, my dads a self employed plumber - been so for the last 12 years when diesel was as low as .40 cents a litre and petrol was 78 cents - and paying now over $300 every 6 months for rego, then RUCS on top of that, plus the rise in diesel is taking its toll, and so getting a plumber, electrician, builder etc is going to cost you more in a few places - their travel costs, their materials (which get delivered to the warehouse by truck) etc. This is true for most other small businesses who use dielsel vehicles.

Good on them for standing up and saying this is not right, most of us would have sat on our a$$'s in front of a computer typing away merrelly, then go to the supermarket after work to buy $12 peice of meat, then go home and stay nice a toastie while the truckies are the ones that brought the meat to the supermarket, and you will find that while your sleeping nice a warm under the covers, there are some truckies that are driving on our pittafull roads across the country to bring food, mail etc to the cities so you have something the next day.

[KLRVTC]

Originally Posted by David R

Is it just me, or does diesel seem to have gotten more expensive compared to petrol? I remember as a kid thinking how great it would be if we could run our car on diesel because it was about half the price of petrol, where as now its more like 2/3 or 3/4 the price of petrol.

Diesel is more expensive then petrol in the U.S

[Reaper_2000]

Originally Posted by Pdu-NZ

One thing I cant get my head around is some of you saying "they made me late for work". If you were late to work, you should have left earlier. The truckies gave 2 days notice of what they were intending to do, unlike miss king who dosnt give a rat's a$$ and dont give anyone any notice.

The truckies are standing up not just for them, but for the majority of the country - as someone said, the rise in RUC's will then bounce back tot he cost of freight which will then be passed to the customer. So excpect food prices to rise again soon.

Its not just the truckies that are getting stung by this, my dads a self employed plumber - been so for the last 12 years when diesel was as low as .40 cents a litre and petrol was 78 cents - and paying now over $300 every 6 months for rego, then RUCS on top of that, plus the rise in diesel is taking its toll, and so getting a plumber, electrician, builder etc is going to cost you more in a few places - their travel costs, their materials (which get delivered to the warehouse by truck) etc. This is true for most other small businesses who use dielsel vehicles.

Good on them for standing up and saying this is not right, most of us would have sat on our a$$'s in front of a computer typing away merrelly, then go to the supermarket after work to buy $12 peice of meat, then go home and stay nice a toastie while the truckies are the ones that brought the meat to the supermarket, and you will find that while your sleeping nice a warm under the covers, there are some truckies that are driving on our pittafull roads across the country to bring food, mail etc to the cities so you have something the next day.

thats a redicilous comment ...

leave earlier for something we had no influence over ? .. dream on, i already get up before 6 and dont get home until after 7:30pm

food prices, along with everything else rise every year with inflation, so interesting arguement you try to raise there, also the research and development to make food higher grade quality etc etc, a lot more factors than just 'the truckies are paying more'

and 2 days notice of what theyre doing? wow i wish i got that lol.

[BUMP]

Originally Posted by iRacer

What surprises me is that none of the radio stations played the Convoy song from the movie - would have been quite appropriate I think - 'We got a great big convoy...'.

The rock played it twice.

Seeing the truckeys doing this brings a tear to my eye. Avalon drive was blocked up, took me 10 minutes to go around 1.5km, but it was worth it.

I showed my support

LOL blocking the motorway, fuck yeh, take that fucken government cock suckers!!

[Pdu-NZ]

Originally Posted by Reaper_2000

thats a redicilous comment ...

leave earlier for something we had no influence over ? .. dream on, i already get up before 6 and dont get home until after 7:30pm

food prices, along with everything else rise every year with inflation, so interesting arguement you try to raise there, also the research and development to make food higher grade quality etc etc, a lot more factors than just 'the truckies are paying more'

and 2 days notice of what theyre doing? wow i wish i got that lol.

and just 1 day of leaving early is too much for you? 15-20 mins earlier???? most people managed to do it.

Yes food prices rise with inflation - but thats not the only thing that makes the price rise - this is just another factor other than inflation.

Well you could have known if you read the paper, watch the news (6pm and 10.30pm), listen to the radio, its even on the internet!!!!! tvnz.co.nz and tv3.co.nz.

[SK1TZ- EF]

Daryl (reaper) wouldnt have gotten to work later becasue he doesnt drive, and no, he doesnt read or listen to teh news,...

I think his point was, fine, drive your trucks, get your message across, but why be such cunts to people by driving 3 abreast at 10kmh?

I am glad they have done it, and wish i could have put up a big banner in support, but I went to work, got here on time, and it hasnt made a difference to my life in teh slightest

sam

[Pdu-NZ]

Sorry reaper for jumping down your throat.

My point was that it has been advertised that they were going to do it through various mediums, they did what they could - and that costs are gonna rise again, and again, and again - Its a COST WE DONT NEED RIGHT NOW and were not going to take it (although we have to) and although there was a bit if disruption, it was only for a few hours (for most centres that is).

Yes, I do agree that some of them were cunts for 3 or even 4 abreast holding up traffic on the motor way - they could have atleast left 2 lanes free for cars.

eh, its over now. Ill leave it at that.

[RJ]

Originally Posted by David R

10000km per year might be the average for a car, but I bet there's a hell of a lot of trucks on the road that do more than that per week!

My linehaul fleet do an average of 10,000kms every 3 weeks so multiply that by the number of tractor units and trailers in our fleet and it ads up VERY quickly, not to mention our metro fleet of trucks and vans too.

We sent in one of our B-trains as he got back in early from his run lastnight and ironically when I turned the Breakfast news on this morning they zoomed right in on one our trucks that wasn't actually part of the protest, they had a special delivery in town this morning so were trying to do if before the protest.

[BUMP]

My dad has 55 trucks at his work, doing an average off 800-1000km a day/night for 280days a year and the other 85 days they do like 700km a day.

Imagine how much its going to cost now.

[Dionysus]

Hasn't there only been one increase for vehicles over six tonnes since 1989? Fuel price rises have hit everybody.

What is the govt duty on diesel? Petrol is around 40% isn't it?

[STEVO7]

Our trucks got free Mc D's on queen st hahaha . Good on the boys for jamming auckland !!!! Its about time someone stood up for their rights!! Anyone don't like it can kiss my ass Im just jealouse we couldn't have done something like this a few years back when all this legislation with boy racers came about, but meh its just my opinion so sue me

[BUMP]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

Hasn't there only been one increase for vehicles over six tonnes since 1989? Fuel price rises have hit everybody.

What is the govt duty on diesel? Petrol is around 40% isn't it?

UMM RUC went up 11% last year and diesel has gone up 75% in the last 2 years? I think diesel pays the same as petrol so around 50%

[David R]

Originally Posted by Reaper_2000

no offence but fucking frustrating for a lot of people !!!!!! the interruption.

Boo hoo. Not half as frustrating as a government who keeps putting up taxes and driving up the cost of living!!

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by BUMP

UMM RUC went up 11% last year and diesel has gone up 75% in the last 2 years? I think diesel pays the same as petrol so around 50%

I wanted to know what the Editorial in the Herald was referring to today?
It said only one increase.

[Andrew]

Typical Kiwi thing I guess, too many people like to cry but never make a stand about it as soon as someone does they have a cry again.

[Dionysus]

Ooh, a reply on Vorb made me laugh.

Posted: 7:12am Post subject: A bunch of whiny little bitches would be a better term.....

1) EVERYONE IS DOING IT HARD FUCK-KNCUCKLES.
2) You were given warning last time and that led to outright wholesale abuse of the system. Now you wanna cry about it?
3) 18 wheels really REALLY fuck the road, if you were to do a weight/wheel comparison you'd probably find truckies don't do so bad! (not the most salient of points, I know...)
4) Truckies will just do what they usually do anyway, and pass the cost onto the consumer.

Interesting this is happening in the same week the gubberment got rail too...

No sympathy from me (in case the tone of my post hadn't got that across)
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[DrRubber]

I think they should have literally blocked all major roads to the city.

and continue to do so untill demands are met....Its better they actually do something about it than just sit on an internet forum and cry about it (like car enthusiasts do when unfair laws etc are passed onto them) hell even the general motorists should do the same thing in cars to protest fuel prices.

but no everyone just sits on their hands.

good on the truckies, it was awesome to hear all the horns tooting and the choppers overhead etc....awesome atmosphere and my work is nowhere near town!!

[Logger]

Just did a quick costing on the price increases we will face. Each of our larger units (we have 4 now) will face an average RUC increase of $4428 every year. Doesnt seem so bad but when profits are at an all time low due to increasing costs an extra $4428 a year hits the wallet hard.

As for Heavy vehicles doing damage to the road; the average 8 axle unit running at 44-45 tonnes (Heavy vehicles get a 5% tolerance on weight) will have a loading of less than 6 tonnes per axle.
When the loadings are over 6 tonnes per axles the damage to the road is far greater. This is reflected in the RUC prices, an 8 axle unit will be charged less in RUC but the offset in tare weight (1 axle on a trailer can add a good 700kg) may eat up this cost advantage.

[Glassjaw]

Dont know what it was like for the rest of you, but my wife had a trouble free run to work today. She works in the City Centre just past the Tce Tunnel.

All the Wellington Truckies were obeying the road rules and stayed in one lane, although in saying that there were cars stuck between the trucks yelling abuse for being held up, when the fast lane was free flowing and pretty empty. I could emagine if it was like what happened on the southern motorway (3 trucks blocking all lanes) but come on, a free flowing and empty lane....

I say good on em for taking a stand, but unfortunately it wont change a thing. One truck driver said on the radio this morning,
"we should stop driving trucks for a complete week and then see how the country is holding up"

Interesting concept, I'd say it would have to be at least a fortnight to reduce the country almost to a standstill, no food, no petrol, no product delivery, etc.

and as for this comment....

leave earlier for something we had no influence over ? .. dream on, i already get up before 6 and dont get home until after 7:30pm

I believe you wouldnt have been effected anyway if you were leaving at those times - got on the motorway at 7:30 this morning and it was free flowing, in fact my wife complained that she got to work far too early as the traffic was extremely light.

[BUMP]

I found it amusing people are going on about getting to work early etc. I usually start at 6am or 7am and there is hardly ne traffic.

H-town ftw!

[Colza]

The reason they put up the RUC with no notice, was because you are allowed to buy ahead for an unlimited time.

When they made the increase last year, $17million worth were bought ahead just before the price rise. This is an exceedingly unfair advantage towards those companies who had enough cash sitting around to be able to buy ahead.

So the lack of warning wasnt to be a bitch, it was to try and be as fair as possible. The law about buying RUC in advance is being addressed, but it could be a while before they sort it out.

As far as I can see, yes it sucks, but they arent just taking your money and burning it.

NZ's roads suck balls, we all know it, and this money is guaranteed to go back into roading because theyve just made a new law that makes it so. Yes diesel has always been cheap, but just because it was cheap doesnt mean it will always be so. If diesel and petrol are now being taxed at similar rates then that seems fair enough to me.