Whats this.. Police.. caught in the act...

[zerone]

cop racers > boy racers.


all you boy racers shut up.

lol.

[lowproz]

Originally Posted by zerone

cop racers > boy racers.


all you boy racers shut up.

lol.

courts > cops

[NAspirated]

Originally Posted by Moclov

Nobody is saying they're supposed to be infallible (or at least I'm not...).
They should face exactly the same punishment that they impose on the rest of the public when they do stuff up though.
Racing at over 140km/h on the motorway would earn any other person a street racing charge, so why are they only facing charges for speeding?

because they were dobbed in, they werent "caught". theres no hard evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they were racing. there is testimony from other officers that proves they were speeding however, plus the potential for one of those officers to have used their radar as evidence.

either way, they will be reprimanded for it.


what confuses me is why people are bitching about the "not being charged for racing", but they dont seem to care that these two officers havnt been stood down from active duty..that seems more of a piss off in my eyes.... theyve been seen breaking at least one law, yet theyre still allowed to enforce it...

do as i say, not as i do?

[Steve-O]

they would most likely be taken off the streets and given some crap desk job, and internal action would be pretty crap to, possible loss of job if its serious enough.

[canman]

NAspirated............It says they were stood down from duty.............. have a read further back.

Also, I think the reason people are saying they should be charged with racing is that the cops don't need any form of proof to charge you with that.

I was in the outside lane of a motorway one night, went past a guy in an old commodore in the GTR and he obviously wanted to prove a point so shot past me on the inside lane..........

He shot past a copper about half a kilometre further down the road, then the cop chased me and pulled me up and said I was racing the commodore and charged me with racing !

Friend in the car was like ............ahhh...... do what ?

I tried to explain that with 600HP that if I was racing a VL commodore that the chances were that it would be me 2 k's down the road not him, but he didn't seem to get it !!!

All got thrown out, but my point is that no evidence was needed for them to throw the charges as me..........

Cops look after their own, I know enough to know that.

"Normal" cops hate the traffic side of the police, not one single copper (normal) that I know has anything good to say about traffic cops, so I'd suspect the coppers speeding were normal beat cops and probaby got dobbed in by traffic cops..............that'll do wonders for internal relations

It's all quite hipocritical for me.......

[lowproz]

Originally Posted by canman

NAspirated............It says they were stood down from duty.............. have a read further back.

The officers had not been stood down from duties.

:!: :!: :!:

i had to read that twice to believe it

[Chaos]

its all bullshit, they need to be charged under the boyracer laws like anyone else and then ill be happy. ffs

[Soichiro]

They must have been stood down from their normal duties, it states categorically that they've had their licences suspended immediately, just like you and me would, so they're not gonna be on the road. They won't be fired unless or until they've had their day in court.

Nothing new there, Rickard is still on the payroll

[IV]

ohwell...another one bites the dust!! or two in this case

I know that little speed demon feeling when you are all alone on the motorway and a car pulls up beside you. You can see the road ahead for quite some time...and you wanna gun it!!

It got the better of these cops, and they got done. I personally think they should get charged with racing, since it doesnt take any proof to charge us with "racing" charges. Not that I have anything against cops, but the fact is they were racing, and thats that really.

I cant be all "YEAH BURN"EM" coz I know the feeling, and I'd be a hypocrite. JUST IMAGINE of no one made any mistakes!! haha tui add bllboard maybe?

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by canman

"Normal" cops hate the traffic side of the police, not one single copper (normal) that I know has anything good to say about traffic cops, so I'd suspect the coppers speeding were normal beat cops and probaby got dobbed in by traffic cops..............that'll do wonders for internal relations

Thats an interesting comment. Those cops that you "know" should be reminded then that when they signed up, that they agreed to enforce all the laws of NZ applicable to their job a policeperson. Not just what they consider is important to their ego.

It is also important to note that, we are also governed by internal regulations similar to but not as strict as the military. So, we as police can also be charged through the court system and the internal disciplinary system. Theoretically, one can be done over twice.

[STina]

Originally Posted by canman

"Normal" cops hate the traffic side of the police, not one single copper (normal) that I know has anything good to say about traffic cops, so I'd suspect the coppers speeding were normal beat cops and probaby got dobbed in by traffic cops..............that'll do wonders for internal relations

It's all quite hipocritical for me.......

Lol im a normal cop and love traffic dutys, They could be refering to MOT traffic cops:?:

[Soichiro]

Originally Posted by STina

Lol im a normal cop and love traffic dutys

...and the work stories....

I was gonna mention that a few of your lads did their apprenticeship on NZH, so I just did. Lightens things up a bit

[NAspirated]

Originally Posted by Sarge

internal disciplinary system

not taking a poke at you Sarge, but i felt the need to piss myself laughing at that comment.


with what i know from friends in the Military, i think some police officers could really do with seeing exactly what Military Justice is... would remove their god complex very quickly...

Originally Posted by canman

Racing story...

you got out of the charges, showing that the "innocent until proven guilty" theory might just still be alive... heres hoping.

they might have thrown the charges at you without a reason, but you got out of them as their was no real evidence (i imagine). what would happen if they throw those charges at these two? exactly the same thing. thats the point im trying to make. perhaps they know it will get thrown out.

[VTAKYO]

To top things off there was a crash in Christchurch this afternoon. A police car was seen by pedestrians to be speeding and ran a red light, and hit another car. The 6pm news said one person had serious injuries. However, on the police website:

Police vehicle involved in city accident
8:07pm 5 November 2007

There are no serious injuries after a police vehicle and a private vehicle collided at a city intersection this evening.

At 5.51pm a Police car was dispatched to an incident on Ferry Road where it was believed a 37 year old man was seen waving a knife around.

The Police car was heading east on Tuam Street, approaching Colombo Street. Another vehicle was traveling west on Tuam Street, also approaching Colombo Street; both vehicles had a green traffic lights. The police car had flashing lights and sirens on.

The police car slowed for the intersection then proceeded across it however the other vehicle turned right in front of it and they collided.

Nice fabrication of news Who to believe???!!!

[lowproz]

i've also seen many cops with their sirens on whilst eating and driving with one hand. also many other things such as indicating roght and turning left etc

[KLRVTC]

I saw cops with there sirens on goin past the cop station on Bridge street(i think thats what its called) in hamilton about a week ago in rush hour traffic. Soon as it got past the lights it turned onto clyde st then drove of normally.
Seemed pretty dodgey lol but i guess they could of been called out somewhere then someone else was dispatched maybe

Originally Posted by VTAKYO

That doesn't make sense. How can both cars have a green light?

[NAspirated]

Originally Posted by KLRVTC

I saw cops with there sirens on goin past the cop station on Bridge street(i think thats what its called) in hamilton about a week ago in rush hour traffic. Soon as it got past the lights it turned onto clyde st then drove of normally.
Seemed pretty dodgey lol but i guess they could of been called out somewhere then someone else was dispatched maybe

no, thats where you call in and make a formal complaint. ive done it, more than once. Central Auckland Police think they are immune to traffic lights and car jams.

sorry, but no.

[Trivium]

Originally Posted by KLRVTC

I saw cops with there sirens on goin past the cop station on Bridge street(i think thats what its called) in hamilton about a week ago in rush hour traffic. Soon as it got past the lights it turned onto clyde st then drove of normally.
Seemed pretty dodgey lol but i guess they could of been called out somewhere then someone else was dispatched maybe

when I was doing scope this happened...the car I was was dispatched to a domestic assult and off we went with lights etc gonig, but on the way a unit that was closer had responded and we were stood down, and drove th rest of the way normally...

[StandardStyle]

Originally Posted by KLRVTC

That doesn't make sense. How can both cars have a green light?

The cops that are reading this topic are probably like - The double green light trick was meant to fool everyone! how did this guy figure out that there cannot be a double green light at an intersection!? this guy knows too much! we have to take him out!
Its a consipiracy 8)

I might aswell jump on the bandwagon of I seen a cop do this....
Ive seen cops not indicate at round-abouts, and Ive seen cops doing 60km in a 50km zone, thats hardcore

[Matty]

Hang on, rein it in a bit. One car heading east on Tuam St, one heading west on Tuam St. They're heading towards each other folks, it's entirely possible (likely, even) they both had a green light. However, I don't know the intersection so maybe right-turn traffic gets it own phase.

No one's mentioned whether or not the disco lights were on either. Of course, the media would quite possibly overlook that for a better story.

The number of times I've seen Joe/Jane Public turn into a retard at the first sight of disco lights continues to amaze and scare me. It's like the proverbial rabbit in the headlights.

[Trivium]

Originally Posted by Matty

Hang on, rein it in a bit. One car heading east on Tuam St, one heading west on Tuam St. They're heading towards each other folks, it's entirely possible (likely, even) they both had a green light. However, I don't know the intersection so maybe right-turn traffic gets it own phase.

No one's mentioned whether or not the disco lights were on either. Of course, the media would quite possibly overlook that for a better story.

The number of times I've seen Joe/Jane Public turn into a retard at the first sight of disco lights continues to amaze and scare me. It's like the proverbial rabbit in the headlights.

Thats what I believed happened here...someone waiting to turn right up Colombo Street saw a Police car coming at them, and tried to turn rather than waiting

I was sent a pext by a friend who saw it and the car that was struck was clearly looking like it had tried to turn into the path of the oncoming Police car

[Steve-O]

Originally Posted by NAspirated

no, thats where you call in and make a formal complaint. ive done it, more than once. Central Auckland Police think they are immune to traffic lights and car jams.

sorry, but no.

good one NAspirated, you make a complant about something you know nothing about. KLRVTC is bang on the money, either that or the job gets downgraded or its a false alarm and units are stood down.

I love people who make assumptions about police on what the media or someone else tells them, some people seriously need to spend a day or 2 in a car and see what its really like, see the people who they have to deal with, get called a rapist, have people say why dont you just shoot me, and the latest one maori basher.

Meh its all good fun, good times, wicked job and very staisfying when you lock up offenders

[Loudsoundz]

Originally Posted by Trivium

when I was doing scope

I am about to do my SCOPE. The beginning of a long long road ahead. Track days are the only release now, we need more of them

[Soichiro]

I don't know Tuam Street but it's obviously a standard two-way phasing and the other guy should have given way turning right.

If it had been a right-turn with its own green phase then the light for the Police would have been red. Any dedicated right turn would switch out once the opposite traffic goes green.

I guess that's what people are saying about jumping to conclusions, save it for when they actually DO something wrong

[IV]

either way, you see flashing lights you get the hell out the way! Good cop this bad cop that...why dont we just have no cops and see what happens...