computer/modem question

LUDELVR · 9th November 2006, 06:56 PM

Just a question for all you IT gurus. If you're in a house and you want to run more than one computer and have access to the net, I'm aware that you can use a router (wireless or otherwise) but could you also simply use another modem if you have one lying around? So essentially you'd have one computer plugged into an adsl modem and in another room you have another modem plugged into another adsl modem, or would you have to pay for an additional modem hook up or something? thanks guys.

flat_0ut · 9th November 2006, 06:59 PM

Where in the first would you plug in the second? Theres only one port

UnitedWeFall · 9th November 2006, 07:00 PM

No, you can't plug one modem into another.

Easiest way is to buy a router with an inbuilt modem.

Haydz · 9th November 2006, 07:02 PM

Or buy an ethernet router for your current router, they are cheap as chips i.e. $120 for a netgear ethernet router/firewall/wireless access point.

But no, you'd need a second phone line AND need adsl installed on that as well. Totally not worth it.

UnitedWeFall · 9th November 2006, 07:05 PM

Internet connection sharing is another option. I can't seem to remember how it works though. www.google.com should be able to shed some light.

flat_0ut · 9th November 2006, 07:12 PM

I would avoid internet connection sharing unless you have your computer on 24/7. Ethernet routers can be picked up on trademe for about $30

DrRubber · 9th November 2006, 07:15 PM

huh, so if ive got two phone jackpoints i cant have two pc's running at the same time???? that fucks my plan then.......either that or i have to infest the house with cables and shit everywhere....

UnitedWeFall · 9th November 2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by badcf4

huh, so if ive got two phone jackpoints i cant have two pc's running at the same time???? that fucks my plan then.......either that or i have to infest the house with cables and shit everywhere....

Not unless the points have the same phone number I believe. But even then, you may not be able to.

flat_0ut · 9th November 2006, 07:26 PM

I can't see a problem if your using two jackpoints, just check with xtra that they allow two logons going at the same time, if they say yes than go for it :wink:

DrRubber · 9th November 2006, 07:27 PM

yay a glimer of hope

yea they are the same phone line....oh well get my other modem and ill try it out 8)

Haydz · 9th November 2006, 07:30 PM

That will not work. Check my reply to your post in the other broadband thread.

1 ADSL 'modem' per phone line. Not jack point. Router is your best bet, cheaper and will allow you to share files between the two computers as well.

DrRubber · 9th November 2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Haydz

That will not work. Check my reply to your post in the other broadband thread.

1 ADSL 'modem' per phone line. Not jack point. Router is your best bet, cheaper and will allow you to share files between the two computers as well.

lol yea just saw your other post prior to reading this one!!!!
thanks haydz :wink:

lowproz · 9th November 2006, 07:52 PM

??? i just connect one using the ethernet cable and the other using the usb?.

DrRubber · 9th November 2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lowproz

??? i just connect one using the ethernet cable and the other using the usb?.

thats what i was gonna do

and that works for you eh ??? if they are both being used it probly shatters the speed maybe??? oh well i can try it and i guess no loss if it dont work

Haydz · 9th November 2006, 08:10 PM

OK so that makes it a router with added USB...

Was never sure if you could actually use both as i always go right for larger scale gear mainly running layer 2 or 3.

flat_0ut · 9th November 2006, 08:13 PM

yeah don't think usb and ethernet will both work at same time, a modem should only be able to assign one ip address

lowproz · 9th November 2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by flat_0ut

yeah don't think usb and ethernet will both work at same time, a modem should only be able to assign one ip address

it works for me on my 302g modem

LUDELVR · 9th November 2006, 08:34 PM

Sorry guys, allow me to clarify. Right now, I have a computer in my room with a phone jack point and that's where I'm using my one adsl modem and laptop. In the other room, my roommate wants internet on her laptop too. I'm looking at a cheap solution to get the net on her laptop. she has a phone jack point as well so I was either thinking:
A. Get a router and just run a line to her laptop.
B. See if I can find a cheap modem and just plug it into her phone jack exactly as my setup is.

I considered going wireless, but too much for my liking and I don't really want a long blue cord running along the side of the floorboard so that's why I was enquiring about the phonejack point and modem in her room as well.

lowproz · 9th November 2006, 08:59 PM

^^^cheapest way is to get a long usb cable(or ethernet) and plug one side into the modem and the other side into her laptop. i did that with my flatmate and it worked fine. (ignore all the hardout computer jargon above)

LUDELVR · 9th November 2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lowproz

^^^cheapest way is to get a long usb cable(or ethernet) and plug one side into the modem and the other side into her laptop. i did that with my flatmate and it worked fine. (ignore all the hardout computer jargon above)

But at the moment, I'm using the modem in my room and the Ethernet cable port is running a cable that is plugged into my laptop. The only other available slot is the USB one on the back of my modem and I just tried to plug that into her laptop while mine is using the ethernet and nothing is happening to her computer.

flat_0ut · 9th November 2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LUDELVR

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowproz

^^^cheapest way is to get a long usb cable(or ethernet) and plug one side into the modem and the other side into her laptop. i did that with my flatmate and it worked fine. (ignore all the hardout computer jargon above)

But at the moment, I'm using the modem in my room and the Ethernet cable port is running a cable that is plugged into my laptop. The only other available slot is the USB one on the back of my modem and I just tried to plug that into her laptop while mine is using the ethernet and nothing is happening to her computer.

It can't direct traffic to two computers at once, thats why the router was designed

LUDELVR · 9th November 2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flat_0ut

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUDELVR

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowproz

^^^cheapest way is to get a long usb cable(or ethernet) and plug one side into the modem and the other side into her laptop. i did that with my flatmate and it worked fine. (ignore all the hardout computer jargon above)

But at the moment, I'm using the modem in my room and the Ethernet cable port is running a cable that is plugged into my laptop. The only other available slot is the USB one on the back of my modem and I just tried to plug that into her laptop while mine is using the ethernet and nothing is happening to her computer.

It can't direct traffic to two computers at once, thats why the router was designed

That's what I was thinking. In any case, so how bout my second option of getting another modem and then just plugging it into the phone jack in her room and then using the ethernet cable into the laptop?

Moclov · 9th November 2006, 09:32 PM

You can't have multiple ADSL modems connected to a phone line at once.

Think of it as a really high frequency version of a normal telephone call. When one person is on the phone, you can't make a second call.

She could use a dialup modem to connect to the internet while you were using an ADSL connection, but that's not a very good solution

Personally I'd sort her out with a wireless PCMIA card, and get a wireless router to put in your room over which you can share your ADSL connection :thumbsup:

LUDELVR · 9th November 2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moclov

You can't have multiple ADSL modems connected to a phone line at once.

Think of it as a really high frequency version of a normal telephone call. When one person is on the phone, you can't make a second call.

She could use a dialup modem to connect to the internet while you were using an ADSL connection, but that's not a very good solution

Personally I'd sort her out with a wireless PCMIA card, and get a wireless router to put in your room over which you can share your ADSL connection :thumbsup:

Thanks for the info guys, looks like I'll be doing the router. I just thought about the modem cuz I saw a few really cheap ones, cheaper than some routers! haha, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks guys!

Haydz · 9th November 2006, 11:37 PM

The cheapest and simplest solution is to buy a $25 hub and do what you don't want to do... run a cable to them.

Connect the hub/switch to your current router via a cross-over ethernet cable, your flatties computer to the switch/hub with a straight through ethernet cable and the same with you then away you go, provided your router is also acting as a DHCP server you should be fine.

9th November 2006, 06:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
LUDELVR Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 176	computer/modem question Just a question for all you IT gurus. If you're in a house and you want to run more than one computer and have access to the net, I'm aware that you can use a router (wireless or otherwise) but could you also simply use another modem if you have one lying around? So essentially you'd have one computer plugged into an adsl modem and in another room you have another modem plugged into another adsl modem, or would you have to pay for an additional modem hook up or something? thanks guys. __________________ Chuck Norris counted to infinity...TWICE!!!

9th November 2006, 07:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
UnitedWeFall Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,952	Re: computer/modem question No, you can't plug one modem into another. Easiest way is to buy a router with an inbuilt modem.

9th November 2006, 07:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Haydz Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,373 Location: Tauranga	Or buy an ethernet router for your current router, they are cheap as chips i.e. $120 for a netgear ethernet router/firewall/wireless access point. But no, you'd need a second phone line AND need adsl installed on that as well. Totally not worth it. __________________ I fucked Elvis Presley in the bathroom where he died.

9th November 2006, 07:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
DrRubber Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,692 Location: Auckland	huh, so if ive got two phone jackpoints i cant have two pc's running at the same time???? that fucks my plan then.......either that or i have to infest the house with cables and shit everywhere.... __________________ Why do I need to comment on Robbie failing.......robbie is the grand master of fail

9th November 2006, 07:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
DrRubber Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,692 Location: Auckland	yay a glimer of hope yea they are the same phone line....oh well get my other modem and ill try it out 8) __________________ Why do I need to comment on Robbie failing.......robbie is the grand master of fail

9th November 2006, 06:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
flat_0ut Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 656 Location: Auckland	Where in the first would you plug in the second? Theres only one port

9th November 2006, 07:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
UnitedWeFall Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,952	Internet connection sharing is another option. I can't seem to remember how it works though. www.google.com should be able to shed some light.

9th November 2006, 07:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
flat_0ut Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 656 Location: Auckland	I would avoid internet connection sharing unless you have your computer on 24/7. Ethernet routers can be picked up on trademe for about $30

9th November 2006, 07:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
flat_0ut Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 656 Location: Auckland	I can't see a problem if your using two jackpoints, just check with xtra that they allow two logons going at the same time, if they say yes than go for it :wink:

9th November 2006, 07:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Haydz Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,373 Location: Tauranga	That will not work. Check my reply to your post in the other broadband thread. 1 ADSL 'modem' per phone line. Not jack point. Router is your best bet, cheaper and will allow you to share files between the two computers as well. __________________ I fucked Elvis Presley in the bathroom where he died.

9th November 2006, 07:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
lowproz Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,352 Location: Auckland	??? i just connect one using the ethernet cable and the other using the usb?. __________________

9th November 2006, 08:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Haydz Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,373 Location: Tauranga	OK so that makes it a router with added USB... Was never sure if you could actually use both as i always go right for larger scale gear mainly running layer 2 or 3. __________________ I fucked Elvis Presley in the bathroom where he died.

9th November 2006, 08:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
flat_0ut Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 656 Location: Auckland	yeah don't think usb and ethernet will both work at same time, a modem should only be able to assign one ip address

9th November 2006, 08:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
LUDELVR Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 176	Sorry guys, allow me to clarify. Right now, I have a computer in my room with a phone jack point and that's where I'm using my one adsl modem and laptop. In the other room, my roommate wants internet on her laptop too. I'm looking at a cheap solution to get the net on her laptop. she has a phone jack point as well so I was either thinking: A. Get a router and just run a line to her laptop. B. See if I can find a cheap modem and just plug it into her phone jack exactly as my setup is. I considered going wireless, but too much for my liking and I don't really want a long blue cord running along the side of the floorboard so that's why I was enquiring about the phonejack point and modem in her room as well. __________________ Chuck Norris counted to infinity...TWICE!!!

9th November 2006, 08:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
lowproz Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,352 Location: Auckland	^^^cheapest way is to get a long usb cable(or ethernet) and plug one side into the modem and the other side into her laptop. i did that with my flatmate and it worked fine. (ignore all the hardout computer jargon above) __________________

9th November 2006, 09:32 PM	#23 (permalink)
Moclov Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,654 Location: Auckland	You can't have multiple ADSL modems connected to a phone line at once. Think of it as a really high frequency version of a normal telephone call. When one person is on the phone, you can't make a second call. She could use a dialup modem to connect to the internet while you were using an ADSL connection, but that's not a very good solution Personally I'd sort her out with a wireless PCMIA card, and get a wireless router to put in your room over which you can share your ADSL connection :thumbsup: __________________ Nuff said.

9th November 2006, 11:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
Haydz Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,373 Location: Tauranga	The cheapest and simplest solution is to buy a $25 hub and do what you don't want to do... run a cable to them. Connect the hub/switch to your current router via a cross-over ethernet cable, your flatties computer to the switch/hub with a straight through ethernet cable and the same with you then away you go, provided your router is also acting as a DHCP server you should be fine. __________________ I fucked Elvis Presley in the bathroom where he died.

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