Motor Up

[Sarge]

Was watching tv last night and the Motor Up ad was on the infomercials. It got me thinking, is there any truth to what they claim or is it all advertising crap.

Can anyone pass comment on the stuff as to whether it has worked for them or know of any independent tests done?

[garg]

Is this the same stuff: (I haven't seen the ad myself)
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/04/motorup5.htm

[Haydz]

I think it basicly thickens the oil so that the tolerances (made larger by age/use) are filled easier. I don't have any proof to back this up though.

[Dezigns]

Originally Posted by garg

Is this the same stuff: (I haven't seen the ad myself)
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/04/motorup5.htm

Thats the one!

In 1998, Consumer Reports magazine attempted to duplicate an advertised claim of Prolong Engine Treatment that an engine treated with its product had continued to run without damage for hours, even after the engine oil was drained -and failed. It forwarded its findings to the Federal Trade Commission, as Prolong contested the CR test's validity. This April, the FTC charged the seller of MotorUp Engine Treatment with making unsubstantiated and deceptive advertising claims.

[Macros]

have a look at this sarge
http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html

mitsi owners like it because it stops there worn tappets making a noise... doesnt fix the problem though

[UnitedWeFall]

Someone told me a few weeks back that it does wonders. Never tried it personally though.

[Esprit]

Might make a small difference to stop noisy tappets and such, but it certainly won't help your engine much other than that.

[Horny_Devil]

it probably works really well on older style motors with high km dont think it will do much on the newer japaneese motors

[SoL]

i recall a comment by ichishima san on oil additives and engine cleaners etc, and he said NEVER EVER use them on modern engines, especially on hondas cause it would mess up the finely tuned clearance in the valves or something...

not that i take everything on best motoring video as bible, but i would think someone with ichishima's experience and knowledge on honda engines will know what he's talking about.....cant exactly remember but it was on the best motoring vtec club ver 1...

[trend.whore]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Was watching tv last night and the Motor Up ad was on the infomercials. It got me thinking, is there any truth to what they claim or is it all advertising crap.

Can anyone pass comment on the stuff as to whether it has worked for them or know of any independent tests done?

So I'm not the only one who sits there at 1am and watches infomercials then? LOL

[Mortarion]

Originally Posted by SoL

cant exactly remember but it was on the best motoring vtec club ver 1...

that it was, small fry, that it was

[Macros]

Originally Posted by Mortarion

that it was, small fry, that it was

he was talking about flushing oils though

[SQUERT]

mmm we were looking at that the other day when it was on...Sounds like a load of shit to me...

[Reaper_2000]

http://nzhondas.com/phpBB2/motor-up--vtu52604.html

funny how i get told to search, but our cop doesnt

first time to say this

SEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

there now i feel better

[Disinfo]

You could always try reproducing the advertisement with a company car

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by Reaper_2000

http://nzhondas.com/phpBB2/motor-up--vtu52604.html

funny how i get told to search, but our cop doesnt

first time to say this

SEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

there now i feel better

maybe cause I asked nicely?

[Reaper_2000]

Originally Posted by Sarge

maybe cause I asked nicely?

are u implying i didnt? :p

from what i can tell this product is crap for newer engines, but would serve a purpose for a pre 90's car

[Sarge]

I wonder if the NZ Commerce Commission has looked into it given that the American authorities have labelled it's claims as deceptive.

From what I briefly read, the deceptive claims made in the US ruling are almost word for word in the tv advert I saw the other night.

[Haydz]

Originally Posted by Sarge

I wonder if the NZ Commerce Commission has looked into it given that the American authorities have labelled it's claims as deceptive.

From what I briefly read, the deceptive claims made in the US ruling are almost word for word in the tv advert I saw the other night.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Adman are the people selling the product, i wonder if they even know what happened in the states?

[Kiwi Civic]

well sagre, all i can say it stay well clear of it.
ESP for your commodore, which i'm assuming uses a semi or fully synthetic oil.
Motorup, all it is, is a soap compound, yes for a very short time it makes the engine slightly quieter, but only for a short time. It soon wears out.
As well as more often than not, the soap in there actually breaks down the chemical compounds in your oil, making it absolutely worthless. The best thing to do is put the best oil you can afford in there.
I'm assuming there isn't a problem with the V8 is there? A poured in liquid cannot fix it, if there is a problem take it to a pro who would fix it properly.

While i worked at ripco i actually refused to sell it and endorse it like they told us to. The whole company is full of crap.

[Sarge]

Nah, the Holden is running fine. I was just sitting around watching late night tv and saw the advert. It got me wondering about the claims they made.

[SQUERT]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Civic

well sagre, all i can say it stay well clear of it.
ESP for your commodore, which i'm assuming uses a semi or fully synthetic oil.
Motorup, all it is, is a soap compound, yes for a very short time it makes the engine slightly quieter, but only for a short time. It soon wears out.
As well as more often than not, the soap in there actually breaks down the chemical compounds in your oil, making it absolutely worthless. The best thing to do is put the best oil you can afford in there.
I'm assuming there isn't a problem with the V8 is there? A poured in liquid cannot fix it, if there is a problem take it to a pro who would fix it properly.

While i worked at ripco i actually refused to sell it and endorse it like they told us to. The whole company is full of crap.

Well you learn something everyday, a soap compound a...I knew it was all shit.Pennzoil Semi Synthetic does me just fine so I don't think i'll be adding any Handy Andy to my oil in the near future...haha

[doo0T!doo0T!]

Dont know about Motor up but some of those additives do seem to work remarkabley well.
I had a gti civic which was about 270,000k's into it's life when I got it and the previous owner had been putting X1R in it for as long as the product had been available in NZ.
That motor was as fit and healthy at 270,000k's as it would have been at 50,000. i did oil changes every 8000 K and the oil was never black like it should have been. I kept putting the X1R in and it kept on trucking, I sold it at just under 300,000k's and it still had near perfect compression and less than 2% pressure loss per cylendar in a leak down test.

Another product, Slick 50 worked so well on my dad's race car that he made the mistake of putting it in his oil to run in a new motor. The rings never bedded in because the oil was too slippery and it had to be stripped down, cleaned, reassembled and re-run in. ops:

I cant comment on what they are or how they work, all I can say is I've had positive experiences with additives in the past.

[Cannabis]

hmm i have been told there's a product called militec that works pretty well.
there's quite a few nice comment about it on the webste i went to but unfortunately i am not even sure if it's available in NZ

[chuckles2]

on my experoence PRoMa MBL8 is simply the best additive for tappet/engine noises. Works way better then any other ive used/seen and is cheaper as 1 bottler does several oil changes since you only use a little each time.