tour van accident in hamiltron??

uh-oh · 19th May 2005, 11:00 PM

anyone heard this or seen this article?? i m busy, cant do a search at the mo, friend sent me an article from one of the hong kong newspaper about it

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Originally Posted by the sun newspaper

north of new zealand in the city of hamilton, happened the most serious car accident in 10 years yesterday morning, mini-van contained of 8 tourists, lost control due to wet road conditions on highway while turning, head-on accident with a truck load with timber, deaths of 3 indian, an american couple, a thai, a french and a NZ driver, only survivor is an 18y/o indian girl and is seriously injured.
it's most serious car accident in nz in 10 years

translation by me...

is it in the news or hearld?? i missed the news

ciacia · 19th May 2005, 11:05 PM

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?...ectID=10126336

sugarfree · 19th May 2005, 11:42 PM

8O that's 1 scary news.... !!!! i just cant imagine how it happen when i read the news off the herald this morning. im very surprised.

i dont think the van driver is at fault. the travel owner said that this guy is the slowest of all their driver, and he rather be late than floor the throttle pedal. but yet, he still lost control cross the median and hitted by the coming truck on the other side. nevertheless, this truck driver is an experienced one, and investigator proved that he brake hard long before the impact. so.... who's at fault???? i think its the road. its too slippery .... !!! is it valid? hahaha

but really, that's one big mistery.

sexcSwIsS · 20th May 2005, 06:39 AM

a mystery and a tragic and sad one at that

i knew the company well, they were all very cautious drivers. accidents happen though..sad but true

SQUERT · 20th May 2005, 09:24 AM

I saw this on the news the other night.Very sad story

my heart goes out to their families

Pdu-NZ · 20th May 2005, 09:55 AM

Its been on the news and in the news papers most of the week..

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lost control due to wet road conditions on highway while turning

Funny how the newspapers get it wrong, he wasnt turning - he was going around a 95kph bend - a very slight bend but they said it was raining, with alot of dew etc which made the road slippery and hence the van skipping to the other side...

Very sad and tragic - when my parents heard it they rung my brother because he takes the same road and about the same time and thought it was him (because they didnt say it was a van with 8 people or so) - but he said that the accident must have happend a short time after because he saw the fire engines etc going past him...

Tragic, tragic indeed - maybe this will make the goverment upgrade our bloody roads!!!...

civ_man · 20th May 2005, 09:55 AM

I heard straight from the truck company as they are based in my home town, that the van driver was driving along, then the van aqua planed as it was goin around the corner and went into the truck.
Shoes how slippery the roads are.

aazaa · 20th May 2005, 09:55 AM

the road is a very dodgey road, but if you pay attention and know what you are doing (which surely the driver was doing) there should be no reason for anything to happen, unless the van got sideways round the corner and he overcorrected and ended up on teh wrong side of the line,

but that is for the police to figure out and we all must feel sorry for the families affected,
did the person that survived the crash and was in hospital survive at all? or are they still in critical condition?

$cyberhax0r · 20th May 2005, 09:57 AM

damn... i hope the indian chick recovers

...

Pdu-NZ · 20th May 2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by aazaa

did the person that survived the crash and was in hospital survive at all? or are they still in critical condition?

I think she is still in intensive care

About the Crash - Waikato Times
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/waikato...1a6579,00.html

About the only van surviver
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/waikato...3a6579,00.html

Quote:

The 18-year-old Indian woman was airlifted to hospital by the Westpac Waikato Air Ambulance after yesterday's horror smash on SH27 left eight others dead.

She was one of the eight tourists being taken by an Auckland driver in a Mercedes minibus to Rotorua.

The dead included the girl's mother, father and sister, aged 42, 50 and 20.

Today she was unconscious and on life support but was expected to survive.

The other people killed in the country's worst crash since eight people died at Mohaka in 1995 included an American couple aged 57 and 45; a Frenchman, the can driver and a Thai woman, 42, who overseas media named as Naphat Juiyim.

The minibus was one of two from Auckland company Greenworld Tours heading to Rotorua.

Police believe the minibus spun out of control on the slippery road and into the path of a northbound Freight Lines truck. The truck had been carrying sawn timber.

The truck driver was uninjured but suffered major shock in the crash.

Police communications manager Kris McGehan said the driver is being given comprehensive victim support.

It is understood the man's employer, Otorohanga-based Freight Lines Ltd, had also arranged counselling.

In a statement, company director Peter Barker expressed sadness about the crash.

"There is no indication that our driver was at fault but to be involved in such a tragic event is devastating," he said.

Traffic flow on the stretch of road will be down to one lane today as the police serious crash unit investigators try to find out what happened.

Shocked police dealing with the crash are confident they will find out what made the minibus veer across the road.

Senior Sergeant Ross Ardern from Morrinsville police said the driver was known to be fastidious and his employers said he never exceeded 95km/h. At that speed the minibus should have handled the corner very comfortably, said Mr Ardern.

It had been raining and the road was wet.

He said it was too soon to speculate on the cause and could not comment on the suggestion the minibus may have hit a patch of oil.

"There was so much oil on the road from the truck that it would be almost impossible to determine. Certainly other vehicles had gone around that road that morning with no problem."

VTEC22 · 21st May 2005, 10:52 AM

this happend on the corner of my uncle and dads farm they all went to help, when i got hold off them they where still in shock. ive never had a problem with that bend but in the rain in a van thers a good chance you could come off.
Dad heard the impact about 2 kms away and went to visit my uncle and then saw the scene and went to help the road and and surrounding areas where covered in debries and the truck ended up on the opposite side of the road.
The people got thrown out of the van i heard.

macabre · 21st May 2005, 04:43 PM

passenger vans should have uprated suspension and wheels i think, theyre so sketchy on the open road, i dont have any trouble with mine it handles like a car now.

aazaa · 21st May 2005, 04:48 PM

vans are Useless.. .handling wise... i remember driving our van around in slightly wet conditions, no weight in the back and i put my foot slighly on the accelerator (just to see what it would do)... next thing i am doin nothing but wheelspin and major body rock/roll... Moral of the story, you cant go as fast round a corner in a van as you can in a truck or car.... unless the van is lowered....

SQUERT · 22nd May 2005, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aazaa

vans are Useless.. .handling wise... i remember driving our van around in slightly wet conditions, no weight in the back and i put my foot slighly on the accelerator (just to see what it would do)... next thing i am doin nothing but wheelspin and major body rock/roll... Moral of the story, you cant go as fast round a corner in a van as you can in a truck or car.... unless the van is lowered....

Very true!The bosses van almost does loop d loops in 3rd when it's raining!!!
Dodgee

XSiVE · 22nd May 2005, 08:47 AM

Didnt they say that he had a heart attack ?

Pdu-NZ · 24th May 2005, 05:23 PM

Update: The only van surviver (18/19 y'old indian woman) has died today...

intergiexsi · 24th May 2005, 05:47 PM

I think that strip of road is dangerious, and my mates always travel through there everyday too and from work. Worst crash in a decade... :cry:

tarkiwi · 24th May 2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by intergiexsi

Worst crash in a decade... :cry:

It's now the 2nd worst road accident in N.Z.s history, the worst being in 1963 when 15 died when a bus went off the road & hit a pole.

intergiexsi · 24th May 2005, 05:56 PM

opps haha, well the worst i ever heard off. am not too much into history or the news, just into cars n girls.

VTEC22 · 25th May 2005, 09:10 AM

i was watching cars and trucks go round the bend from dads house and i thought they where going slow but thats because the strip of road has been reduced to 50kmh

19th May 2005, 11:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
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19th May 2005, 11:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
sugarfree Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,702 Location: Auckland	8O that's 1 scary news.... !!!! i just cant imagine how it happen when i read the news off the herald this morning. im very surprised. i dont think the van driver is at fault. the travel owner said that this guy is the slowest of all their driver, and he rather be late than floor the throttle pedal. but yet, he still lost control cross the median and hitted by the coming truck on the other side. nevertheless, this truck driver is an experienced one, and investigator proved that he brake hard long before the impact. so.... who's at fault???? i think its the road. its too slippery .... !!! is it valid? hahaha but really, that's one big mistery. __________________ Red EG6

20th May 2005, 06:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
sexcSwIsS Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634 Location: Auckland	a mystery and a tragic and sad one at that i knew the company well, they were all very cautious drivers. accidents happen though..sad but true __________________ aka Fxgtchik I live in my own little world; But it's okay, they know me there

20th May 2005, 09:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
SQUERT Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,737 Location: Auckland	I saw this on the news the other night.Very sad story my heart goes out to their families __________________ Previously $CENSLS1$

20th May 2005, 09:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
civ_man Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,475	I heard straight from the truck company as they are based in my home town, that the van driver was driving along, then the van aqua planed as it was goin around the corner and went into the truck. Shoes how slippery the roads are. __________________ My old 1992 EG9 Civic Sir

20th May 2005, 09:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
aazaa Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,323	the road is a very dodgey road, but if you pay attention and know what you are doing (which surely the driver was doing) there should be no reason for anything to happen, unless the van got sideways round the corner and he overcorrected and ended up on teh wrong side of the line, but that is for the police to figure out and we all must feel sorry for the families affected, did the person that survived the crash and was in hospital survive at all? or are they still in critical condition? __________________ dont unDerestimate the power of the D Series SS2000 Register, - - - Turns out common sense aint that common

20th May 2005, 09:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
$cyberhax0r Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 69	damn... i hope the indian chick recovers ...

21st May 2005, 10:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
VTEC22 Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,181 Location: Hamilton	this happend on the corner of my uncle and dads farm they all went to help, when i got hold off them they where still in shock. ive never had a problem with that bend but in the rain in a van thers a good chance you could come off. Dad heard the impact about 2 kms away and went to visit my uncle and then saw the scene and went to help the road and and surrounding areas where covered in debries and the truck ended up on the opposite side of the road. The people got thrown out of the van i heard. __________________ Wong Beysest 2009 Wok and tuck specialists

21st May 2005, 04:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
macabre Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 170 Location: Hamilton	passenger vans should have uprated suspension and wheels i think, theyre so sketchy on the open road, i dont have any trouble with mine it handles like a car now.

21st May 2005, 04:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
aazaa Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,323	vans are Useless.. .handling wise... i remember driving our van around in slightly wet conditions, no weight in the back and i put my foot slighly on the accelerator (just to see what it would do)... next thing i am doin nothing but wheelspin and major body rock/roll... Moral of the story, you cant go as fast round a corner in a van as you can in a truck or car.... unless the van is lowered.... __________________ dont unDerestimate the power of the D Series SS2000 Register, - - - Turns out common sense aint that common

22nd May 2005, 08:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
XSiVE Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 701	Didnt they say that he had a heart attack ? __________________ no more honda

24th May 2005, 05:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Pdu-NZ Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,421 Location: Hamilton	Update: The only van surviver (18/19 y'old indian woman) has died today... __________________ Current: 1997 Nissan Primera Neo VVL Wagon Manual. Need your PS Pump or Alternator rebuilt? PM Me.

24th May 2005, 05:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
intergiexsi Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 282	I think that strip of road is dangerious, and my mates always travel through there everyday too and from work. Worst crash in a decade... :cry: __________________ 89 Honda integ Xsi Gunmetal Gray 16" Enkei Whites, 17" Advanti Whites If it Ain't A Tight Car! Then it Ain't A Rice R! Pic Added 22/05/05 Finally!

24th May 2005, 05:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
intergiexsi Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 282	opps haha, well the worst i ever heard off. am not too much into history or the news, just into cars n girls. __________________ 89 Honda integ Xsi Gunmetal Gray 16" Enkei Whites, 17" Advanti Whites If it Ain't A Tight Car! Then it Ain't A Rice R! Pic Added 22/05/05 Finally!

25th May 2005, 09:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
VTEC22 Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,181 Location: Hamilton	i was watching cars and trucks go round the bend from dads house and i thought they where going slow but thats because the strip of road has been reduced to 50kmh __________________ Wong Beysest 2009 Wok and tuck specialists

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