Motor Descisions???

[Demon]

Cant quite decide what motor im going to put into my DA
Had originally thought about a b18cR for ease of mounting but they are proving hard to find in decent condition
i had also thought about going down the H2B route and swapping in a H22a altho i dont know much about them or this sort of swap
Any ideas/comments welcome!

[Horny_Devil]

cause its a DA arent u kinda limited to waht you can run?

just buy a B18CR in average condition and rebuild it not that hard specially when uve got jase and robin there

[bmgjet]

b20b/b20z block with b16a head. Thats what im looking at doing down the road.

What iv found out so far is. You can pick up a convention kit for $200USD that includes everything you need excluding Cambelt and tune. Cambelt just needs to be a b18c or b16b one and for tune you can just use VAFC with good resualts. Stock b16a cams work fine if you dont mill the head but then you only have 9.6CR but it still puts out the same power as a b18c with more tq.

To build it better you will need to make the valve pockets bigger on the pistons, mill the head (cant remember how much) and throw in some decent cams.

The rest you will be able to find on google easily. But this is just another option that shouldnt cost more then $1200.


Also what iv heard is that h22a's get quite expensive to stick in DAs because the engine bay is 1mm to small so you need to bend out some bits with a crow bar to make it fit. So I vote stick with b series to keep it simple

[SLOTEG]

h2b it
just so i can see how it goes
be different

[VTAKYO]

Graham at 0800 Cartune is a pro with B20B's... he could point you in the right path. He has done a lot of the local builds. Will be the same situation as John/BWDOWN is dealing with. Problem is that it is really hard on your drivetrain. I think I was looking at about 4 grand installed when I was looking into it. The blocks are cheap - around 450. But then it is advisable to balance the crank, etc... then there is the cost of new CVs and clutch. Installation including removing the B16, swapping and modifying the head, doing clutch, cv's, cambelt and random stuff was about 1500 I think.

I'd still be most inclined to go the tried and true built B18C route.

[Matty]

Originally Posted by bmgjet

Also what iv heard is that h22a's get quite expensive to stick in DAs because the engine bay is 1mm to small so you need to bend out some bits with a crow bar to make it fit.

Um, how much does your mechanic charge to use a crowbar? Because crowbar swinging ain't exactly a highly skilled job...

I'd say stick with a B18CR. Just remember any of the engines you're looking at are getting on a bit now so they'll probably all have something they'll need doing in terms of a freshen up.

[Logger]

I'm going to agree with Matty on this one. No B18CR will be as shagged as your B16A and it's likely that they'll only need minor things like seals done.

[DC2r]

B18cr, rebuild if need be, new rings, seals bearings cambelt etc. easy power with i/h/e
h2b- if you wanna be different, also cheap easy power.
b20b- just as easy as the b18cr to drop in besides the hydraulic part if u plan to use s80.

Vtakyo- you make b20b's seem like absolute torque monsters, they do make more torque than your usual b16/18 but not talking gearbox eating v8 figures. i know of an ef and da here in Wellington running b20bs and they havent blown any gearboxs and get driven hard, flat shifting ,launching at drags etc etc, same with a mates b20b dc2....

[itsjdm]

built b20

go turbo

[Demon]

turbos suck , all ready thought about going down that route but opted for this choice instead

[BWDOWN]

I'd stick with a B18c or B18cr too only cause I dont wanna see another B20vtec down here Slowly but surely mine is gettin there haha

[Pommy]

Originally Posted by DC2r

Vtakyo- you make b20b's seem like absolute torque monsters, they do make more torque than your usual b16/18 but not talking gearbox eating v8 figures. i know of an ef and da here in Wellington running b20bs and they havent blown any gearboxs and get driven hard, flat shifting ,launching at drags etc etc, same with a mates b20b dc2....

word homie

i see nothing special about b20s these days, the da that has one in these ways wasnt very quick at all.. LOLOL at gearbox shredding torque, errr, NAH, not really

a b18cr da would be mean, best bet IMO. arent da chassis lighter than dc chassis?

[americ_ian]

h2b will be 2 inches out the bonnet!~

[SLOTEG]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

h2b will be 2 inches out the bonnet!~

scoop!

[starlet]

b18cr man, my rebuild cost me next to nothing and i used genuine bearings and rings etc, mugen head gasket.

b18cr revs hard and is torquey, b20b = too much effort

[BWDOWN]

The best thing on the B20's side is $$ for power. There is no way on this earth building a b20 would cost more than a used b18cr. B18c maybe but no way a cr