I need more VTECH POWER!!

[Fabolous]

So yeah, I bought my DC2 SIR fairly standard and did the usual I/H/E + VAFCII tune. Intake is whale penis, headers are 4-2-1 fujitsubo, exhaust is 2.25 with 1 reso and TRR muff. That was a long time ago in a land far away and I'm craving more power. I would like to think I have stage I complete..

Any ideas on stage II? Would it be something along the lines of bigger TB, skunk2 intake, ITR or some stage 1 cams + retune?? Or should I not waste my money/time and throw a snail on... can't rock my plate then
Also an estimate on parts/labour would be :thumbsup:

The cars done 190kms but is still pulling strong, no white/blue/brown smoke.. some black under load but i'd like to think its cause I hardly take it to vtak anymore... trackday should clear things up ;D Clutch is still grippy as.

sweet

[bmgjet]

Valve springs, Retainers, Cams + Tune and raise rev limit.
Or
Turbo lol

[WAY TC]

yeah ^
if you dont wanna got turbo, get a full skunk2 package stage2 and vafc2 tune. will respond well with ihe already done

[Pommy]

no point putting itr ones in, just go with the above and change the valvetrain completely, maybe a 2.5 inch exhaust too... cam gears, cams, valve springs retainers + tune, if budget allows get a decent ecu setup aswell

[Fabolous]

so tb/intake/valve train/cams/tune... bit outta my budget to do in one go!
Might do skunk2 intake + tune for now...? that'll be like 1k
any recommended tuners in aucks, got it done from (white) mark at beyond2 last time...

[dazznz]

To be honest. If your just going to do intake i don't really see the point in wasting money on tuning the car. Chances are you are going to gain F*&^ all power, unless your last tune was complete rubbish. You would be far better to leave it with a standard in take manifold, and save up for a while for a set of cams and their associated parts and then bung all of this in and then tune it.

You will see big power gains from this, but your not going to see much just from doing intake.

[[QUIKdc2]]

Start with the cams and valvetrain first, then change the intake manifold and throttle body, the skunk2 manifold loses power on stock cams.

[tianporn]

Yo man,

If you sticking with NA, you should build the head first. Blox comes to mind. Then tune, then since your motor has high KMs you can rebuild the block.

Realistically i would only do all that if i were to keep the car for a while!

Keep us posted

[d16a7]

just go turbo and be done with it

come to the darkside!

but in all seriousness your car goes pretty quick and makes decent power...

but if you wanting more then porting, cams, and valve train is what comes to mind... and maybe a skim of the head to bump compression up a little,

thats all i can think that wont cost the earth..

[tianporn]

Or if you go down a similar path of someone...

ITR Cams $400ish
Blox Manifold $300ish
Labour $300ish
Tune $350ish

[Fabolous]

Originally Posted by tianporn

Or if you go down a similar path of someone...

ITR Cams $400ish
Blox Manifold $300ish
Labour $300ish
Tune $350ish

"someone"?

Yeah that's more what I was after, I'm not going to keep the car for that long so just wanted to squeeze some power out so I can enjoy the last few months I have with it... *tear*

hmmm is there a real need for an ITR sty intake mani with stage I cams??
stage I cams + tune?? 10kW?

lol and aaron I want to but i'll have to whore myself out to a 100 fat chicks for $50 or a 10 really fat chicks for $500.

...fat chicks need love too. But they gotta pay. [/quagmire]

[d16a7]

how do ya think i paid for mine.. heheh.. awwright..

well if thats your plan then go with what tianporn says,

just whack CTR or ITR cams in and the mani and a tune, and should go alright.. shouldnt have to do the valvetrain as they arent that much bigger than factory and your rev limit would still stay the same...

still be using VAFC for tune? could probably just get someone with a wideband to play around with that one..

[Gudgen]

if you want, you can purchase another b18c. tear it down and build it up slowly. that way you can still srive your car while your building another motor for it.

[CIVTEC]

^^ Did you even bother to read the thread ?

Originally Posted by Fabolous

I'm not going to keep the car for that long so just wanted to squeeze some power out so I can enjoy the last few months I have with it...

[tianporn]

Yeah definately need a tune. You'll more likely lose power with ITR cams and skunk2/blox IM with the stock VTEC point.

Have you considered Blox A's? price ain't too bad from 41 but may be just a little too agressive for stock valvetrain.

And if you want to enjoy it you must track it more!!! Drag and trackday!!!! Not just taking pics of your car No more hardparking!

[WAY TC]

those Skunk2 IM onlymake more power at higher rev range. like make exceptional power from 8-9k - which means higher limiter = upgraded valvetrain.

If you want good power and are doin everything in the head and tune make sure you get stage 2 or higher. no point in all that $ for ghey stage 1.

[Gudgen]

Originally Posted by CIVTEC

^^ Did you even bother to read the thread ?

whoops! my bad. ops:

ok then. back to basics.

1.) a really good custom cold air intake which gets the filter into the guard.
$300 max DIY

2.) a really highly developed 4-2-1 exhaust manifold ie. DC, SSR, TODA.
$900 - $1500
the next few might be argueble.

3.) a high quality 2.5" exhaust system.
>$1500 AFTERMARKET
4.) adjustable camgears.
$300 - $600
5.) tune. for all of the above.
>$1000
Gutting the rear of your car will yield performance gains. when you go to sell it, put everything back in.

these are prices for the high-end scale and the only thing you could skimp with a DIY effort would be the intake and exhaust. even perhaps the installation of the camgears.

but carefully thought out mods will do better than bling bling propaganda.

[GDB]

get some nos

just get some ctr cams or stage 1s

whats after this?

[Fabolous]

^^nos? 2 bottles? big ones? by tonight?
what's next, as in what car? lol I have no idea, might go turbo rwd?

Originally Posted by tianporn

And if you want to enjoy it you must track it more!!! Drag and trackday!!!! Not just taking pics of your car No more hardparking!

haha hardparking?? what's that?
nah def going to go more trackdays aye, I'm going to the one on monday as a matter of fact! But drag racing... not so much...

Well lots of good advice here, but I also have to take into account what's available now and for what price. I have a couple of options lined up and will keep you guys posted!

[DC2r]

I reckon if you plan to sell it in the near future, you may as well keep it as is, change fluid pads, get some semis and go nuts on as many trackdays as you can.

Your car looks damn tidy but at the end of the day its a 1996? dc2 with 190kms and spending more money on go fast bits isnt guna increase resale value.

Imo save your coin towards new bits for your next car :wink:

oh and sell me your te37s before ya sell your car too! 8)

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Fabolous

I'm going to the one on monday as a matter of fact! But drag racing... not so much...

harry on the track??

im going downso will take so pics for you

and it better be slammed by then

[Deanis]

Originally Posted by DC2r

I reckon if you plan to sell it in the near future, you may as well keep it as is

x2

[vti]

x3

OOORRRR if you wana spend moolh ill happily donate my car to recieve free mods

[Fabolous]

^^hmm yeah I'm not going to get shit all for my car... which makes me double minded about selling it, I mean I could just keep it as a daily OR have it as a track car... But that's down the line when I have enough money to get another car... I don't know

In the meantime, I'll make it go faster

[EGD]

here is a link of my build.

http://nzhondas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=75049

basically, i have spent more than $10k just on parts and tunning(most of labour done inhouse) not including the b18cr engine to achieve the power, can't say the power is impressive but it certainly up there.

however, if i m given another chance, i won't do it again. its just costing too much to do up the n/a properly.

if u serious thinking of keeping the car, why not consider the jackson racing supercharge kit. great power and torque gain, good driverbility, and with our currency so strong, its a bloody good deal. around u.s. $3500 for a whole kit including a brand new s300 ecu

can still use it once u sold the car, as long as u stay with b-series power