The Final: Tour of Duty!

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 06:10 PM

TABLE OF CONTENTS:

1. STM Dyno results
2. Dyno Sheet
3. The Testimonials
4. The Dispear
5. The Re-Build
6. Rywire Harness and ATS pull down
7. Y1 pull down and special guest
8. Motor Out w/tutorial and Port Comparisons

Hey guys,

I own an EF9 and have had it for many years. The final stage has been the motor. I also wanted to keep it B16a so i could have a crack outta of getting some decent power out of the B16a. Its sat in the car for more than 18 months and has only been started and never run in. But today it finally went into Andre@Speedtech for the tune of its life.

get the results tomorrow.

I'll give you the run down of the engine so post your comments and questions and have a go!

Old engine produced 107kw@7774rpm this was on the Chequered Flag dyno.

New engine specs:

b16a2
skunk2 stage3 cams
skunk2 high compression valves
skunk2 dual valvesprings
skunk2 titanium retainers
toda camgears (gen1)
84mm JE forged high-comp pistons
darton sleeves
rage block guard
ITR 4-2-1 manifold
2.5" mandrel bent exhaust
gsr injectors
skunk2 pro-series intake manifold
blox racing 76mm throttle body
hondata intake gasket
ITR fuel Pressure Regulator
Walbro fuel pump
Hondata s300
DVM 3.9kg flywheel
Some sort of headwork, ie not telling

Pics up tomorrow.

Post your prediction please too.

Pommy · 14th January 2008, 06:37 PM

125 wkw and a WHOLE LOTTA CASH out of your pocket 8O

better headers and you'd get more!

nice ride 8)

-KONIG- · 14th January 2008, 06:44 PM

This is a similar setup to monstibisjis old car... What did that make, about 135kw? About bloody time warren this has to be the longest build ever!

All the track hores havent seen this since 2005 megameet!

-KONIG- · 14th January 2008, 06:45 PM

BTW this thing was a weapon with 107 kw! haha So light Yo!

WingIt · 14th January 2008, 06:55 PM

Bens (Loggers) B16a EF9 made something like 122kw atw at speedfactor, stock bottom end and ITR cams with IHE. Then he put CTR pistons in.

Obviously different dyno's though.

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 07:02 PM

cheers konig. all will be revealed tomorrow when i can the dyno sheet back.

whats the current top kw b16a around these parts anyway...

it is similar to monsterbishis bar the bottom end and cams. so if hes got 124kw we should be around that or a bit more..

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommy

125 wkw and a WHOLE LOTTA CASH out of your pocket 8O

better headers and you'd get more!

nice ride 8)

cheers pommy. it took a wee bit of cash over several years. not the money doesnt bother me. its the time and enough ive spent if it all goes pear shaped.

SiLent · 14th January 2008, 07:29 PM

130ish , Respect for that build bro :thumbsup:

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiLent

130ish , Respect for that build bro :thumbsup:

cheers brah!

its been a long build and alot of people have been waiting for this so if someone out there can just confirm how much of a difference andres dyno makes compared to dynos up in auckland and around wellington so there can be calculated comparisons.

-KONIG- · 14th January 2008, 07:38 PM

ripped from his build thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by monsterbishi

doug: yeh i know, i though i would be cool and say that it did.

anyways, here is dyno sheet after i finally got round to scanning it.

B16A2 block (brand new from Japan)
balanced bottom end
knife edged crank
balanced crank pulley, clutch kit and flywheel
TAS block guard

spoon head gasket
B16a head
race port and polish
3 angle valve cut on valve seats
2 angle valve cut on valves
port matched manifolds and throttle body
Skunk 2 Pro Series stage 2 cams
Skunk 2 Pro Series double valve springs
Skunk 2 Pro Series titanium retainers
Skunk 2 Pro Series cam gears
Skunk 2 Pro Series intake manifold
Skunk 2 Pro Series 70mm throttle body
TRR 4-2-1 Headers ----> ( hytech and 2.5inch )

YS1 cable lsd gearbox
Spoon flywheel
exedy 3 puk race clutch
exedy race pressure plate

msd ignition system
gizzmo chip
vafc 2
sard fuel regulator
390cc injectors
walbro fuel pump

Andrew · 14th January 2008, 07:39 PM

84mm in a B16 makes it 1.8L, not really comparable to a true B16A though..

But then again you are playing with the B16s baby stroke

Coupe-R · 14th January 2008, 07:55 PM

you didn't mention what it is being tuned with
without that its too hard to guess, thats why monsterbishi's motor never made crazy powahh cause it didn't have a decent ECU, just VAFC I believe

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 08:05 PM

good question. just as a street car with a bit of guts. not a daily driver but a streetable car.

typalo · 14th January 2008, 08:06 PM

bloody warren just get on with the show

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 08:10 PM

id be happy with 135kw. it would be pretty good to get that sort of number from a b16a.

Horny_Devil · 14th January 2008, 08:12 PM

yea but its not really a B16A now

Quote:

84mm in a B16 makes it 1.8L, not really comparable to a true B16A though..

kinda makes it a hybrid B16A with 1800cc's

monsterbishi · 14th January 2008, 08:22 PM

should be interesting !!! woop woop

b16 reppin

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

yea but its not really a B16A now

Quote:

84mm in a B16 makes it 1.8L, not really comparable to a true B16A though..

kinda makes it a hybrid B16A with 1800cc's

yeah i guess your right. even though it now runs 1740cc it still represents the b16a!! HARD!

Horny_Devil · 14th January 2008, 08:29 PM

haha not quiet 1800 then

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

haha not quiet 1800 then

haha yeah. maybe if i had an extra cylinder it might stretch to an 1800, haha.. so yeah.

SiLent · 14th January 2008, 08:45 PM

In a nice light EF9 too

, will you be getting some better headers down the track?

Gudgen · 14th January 2008, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiLent

In a nice light EF9 too

, will you be getting some better headers down the track?

if a spoon secondaries fell out of the sky then i would put them on but ive really had enough with this car.

DrTec · 14th January 2008, 09:17 PM

137fwkw
13.6 1/4

At a guess

Bl4ckt0p · 15th January 2008, 07:47 AM

Very nice build bro, gota see pics with those dyno results

Hayce · 15th January 2008, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gudgen

Pics up tomorrow.

Chop chop tomorrow is today...

Impressive setup for sure, but the turbo man in me just can't get past the fact with that setup you'd be... eh nevermind, no point.

14th January 2008, 06:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gudgen Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,465 Location: Dunedin	The Final: Tour of Duty! TABLE OF CONTENTS: 1. STM Dyno results 2. Dyno Sheet 3. The Testimonials 4. The Dispear 5. The Re-Build 6. Rywire Harness and ATS pull down 7. Y1 pull down and special guest 8. Motor Out w/tutorial and Port Comparisons Hey guys, I own an EF9 and have had it for many years. The final stage has been the motor. I also wanted to keep it B16a so i could have a crack outta of getting some decent power out of the B16a. Its sat in the car for more than 18 months and has only been started and never run in. But today it finally went into Andre@Speedtech for the tune of its life. get the results tomorrow. I'll give you the run down of the engine so post your comments and questions and have a go! Old engine produced 107kw@7774rpm this was on the Chequered Flag dyno. New engine specs: b16a2 skunk2 stage3 cams skunk2 high compression valves skunk2 dual valvesprings skunk2 titanium retainers toda camgears (gen1) 84mm JE forged high-comp pistons darton sleeves rage block guard ITR 4-2-1 manifold 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust gsr injectors skunk2 pro-series intake manifold blox racing 76mm throttle body hondata intake gasket ITR fuel Pressure Regulator Walbro fuel pump Hondata s300 DVM 3.9kg flywheel Some sort of headwork, ie not telling Pics up tomorrow. Post your prediction please too. __________________ B16A EF9 250BHP *\| "Owning an EF9 since ages ago!"* Last edited by Gudgen; 6th July 2008 at 08:41 PM.

14th January 2008, 06:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pommy Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,849 Location: Twizel	125 wkw and a WHOLE LOTTA CASH out of your pocket 8O better headers and you'd get more! nice ride 8) __________________ current:cd6 SIR EX:93 wrx, EF9, H22A EG, R32 GTST, 300ZXTT, DC2 SIRG: ~~Anti::Rice~~

14th January 2008, 06:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
-KONIG- Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 859 Location: Palmerston North	This is a similar setup to monstibisjis old car... What did that make, about 135kw? About bloody time warren this has to be the longest build ever! All the track hores havent seen this since 2005 megameet! __________________ Ex B18CR EK! Buddyclub, Apexi, Mugen, AEM, Koni, 4.785 Final drive!

14th January 2008, 06:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
-KONIG- Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 859 Location: Palmerston North	BTW this thing was a weapon with 107 kw! haha So light Yo! __________________ Ex B18CR EK! Buddyclub, Apexi, Mugen, AEM, Koni, 4.785 Final drive!

14th January 2008, 06:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
WingIt Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,769 Location: Whakatane	Bens (Loggers) B16a EF9 made something like 122kw atw at speedfactor, stock bottom end and ITR cams with IHE. Then he put CTR pistons in. Obviously different dyno's though. __________________ Mugen 無限 Equipped l TEAMFBI Yo! l 41 l Race car trapped in a Wagons Body l ML Racing

14th January 2008, 07:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gudgen Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,465 Location: Dunedin	cheers konig. all will be revealed tomorrow when i can the dyno sheet back. whats the current top kw b16a around these parts anyway... it is similar to monsterbishis bar the bottom end and cams. so if hes got 124kw we should be around that or a bit more.. __________________ B16A EF9 250BHP *\| "Owning an EF9 since ages ago!"*

14th January 2008, 07:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
SiLent Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,533 Location: Taupo	130ish , Respect for that build bro :thumbsup: __________________ "Welcome to the honda scene where boys go in debt just to impress other boys."

14th January 2008, 07:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
Andrew Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,184 Location: Auckland	84mm in a B16 makes it 1.8L, not really comparable to a true B16A though.. But then again you are playing with the B16s baby stroke __________________ Don't let anyone around you soak through and ruin what you were originally about

14th January 2008, 07:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,965 Location: Tauranga	you didn't mention what it is being tuned with without that its too hard to guess, thats why monsterbishi's motor never made crazy powahh cause it didn't have a decent ECU, just VAFC I believe

14th January 2008, 08:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gudgen Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,465 Location: Dunedin	good question. just as a street car with a bit of guts. not a daily driver but a streetable car. __________________ B16A EF9 250BHP *\| "Owning an EF9 since ages ago!"*

14th January 2008, 08:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
typalo Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 238 Location: Lower Hutt	bloody warren just get on with the show

14th January 2008, 08:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gudgen Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,465 Location: Dunedin	id be happy with 135kw. it would be pretty good to get that sort of number from a b16a. __________________ B16A EF9 250BHP *\| "Owning an EF9 since ages ago!"*

14th January 2008, 08:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
monsterbishi Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,143 Location: North Shore City	should be interesting !!! woop woop b16 reppin __________________ Current - SNYP3R evo5 -- EX - TEC2NV-133.4 kws --EX - '00 Euro R CL1 -- Current - '93 VFR400 RN

14th January 2008, 08:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
Horny_Devil Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,518 Location: Auckland	haha not quiet 1800 then __________________ D Series Guru My Profile - My Website - My Build Thread V2.0

14th January 2008, 08:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
SiLent Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,533 Location: Taupo	In a nice light EF9 too , will you be getting some better headers down the track? __________________ "Welcome to the honda scene where boys go in debt just to impress other boys."

14th January 2008, 09:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
DrTec Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,256 Location: Wellington	137fwkw 13.6 1/4 At a guess __________________ '98 R33 GTS25t

15th January 2008, 07:47 AM	#24 (permalink)
Bl4ckt0p Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,809 Location: Gisborne	Very nice build bro, gota see pics with those dyno results

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