Difference with Mugen ABS intake and Non ABS

[nva2nd]

Besides from the biggest point ones for ABS and ones Not

Is there any difference in the design its self which could affect the performance between the two?

Cheers.

Kane.

[nva2nd]

Any one?

[WAY TC]

so they make two models for dc2? ABS and non? i assume you're talkn' dc2?
id say if Mugen made two different that differ in design, you would be talking 0.0005hp ? as the DC2r airbox abs and non are the same (arn't they?)

[Rustynuts]

Isn't there just one model for the dc2?

[nva2nd]

Originally Posted by Rustynuts

Isn't there just one model for the dc2?

I thought this but I did a search on our mighty search in the top left and it came up about a topic a wee while back saying ones for abs and ones not.

[WAY TC]

well yeah i think they are the same as i thought i used a non abs airbox in my abs DC2, and it fitted

[M3_Power]

Basically one is made for the EK Civic and one for the DC .. but they are interchangeable provided if you want to use the EK one in an eg or DC you can't have ABS (this is because the ABS control unit on the EK is located just above the steering rack and below the master cylinder).

In terms of filter sizing, the EK one is larger, but the DC one has a larger velocity stack.

The EK one has a larger airbox compared to the DC ...

The trumpet or snorkel is the same in both.


EK Version (also for non ABS DC or EG)




DC Version (also fit EK, abs and non abs)





I personally prefer the EK version .....

[FLYRYD]

ive always thought it was "old version" and "new version".
when i search for them on hondatech, thats how they refered to them.
so the old version only fits non-ABS cars, where as the new version fits ABS cars and non-ABS cars.

[nva2nd]

At last a answer!!!!

M3_Power your my hero top stuff.

[Mac]

Not as I beleive it - the EK / DC is interchangeable as Tom mentions BUT it has been known that people have installed them into ABS equipped DC's. I'll try and get a link from HT. The Mugen catalog only lists 2 intakes - one for EK and one for DC2. It's my understanding that there's never been a V2 from Mugen - it was just an American term they used to classifiy a EK Intake in a DC chassis. I could be wrong and would love to be corrected!

[M3_Power]

Originally Posted by Mac

Not as I beleive it - the EK / DC is interchangeable as Tom mentions BUT it has been known that people have installed them into ABS equipped DC's. I'll try and get a link from HT. The Mugen catalog only lists 2 intakes - one for EK and one for DC2. It's my understanding that there's never been a V2 from Mugen - it was just an American term they used to classifiy a EK Intake in a DC chassis. I could be wrong and would love to be corrected!

For once you are wrong Mike

FLYRYD is correct .. the old and new version is just an American term .. .similarly with the use of Version 1 and Version 2 denomination ... basically there's just the EK (old or version 1) and DC version (new or version 2)...

And no you'll never be able to get the EK version into an ABS equip DC chassis unless you move the whole ABS pump .. as 1/2 of the box basically sits over where the ABS pump would otherwise be ....

[Mac]

Thanks Tom. So it's not Version 1 & 2 as in EK and DC2 but Old Vs New.

With regards to the ABS install - yep it's been done! I'm frantically trying to find the link. One mo!

[dazznz]

Just get a comptech airbox for ABS DC2, they work very well, and they are half the price....if you can find one that is.

[M3_Power]

More of it in the EK ...
I don't see how it'd fit with ABS in a DC to be honest ....




perhaps with the 98 spec ABS pump which is smaller compared to the 96 spec ...

[M3_Power]

Originally Posted by Mac

With regards to the ABS install - yep it's been done! I'm frantically trying to find the link. One mo!

Okay I stand corrected ... I guess there is a way to make it fit with ABS in a DC ... not the prettiest install and I guess you'd have to cut the mounting tab on the snorkel to get it to sit properly ..




Personally I think it looks like arse ...

[Mac]

There's better versions than that Tom =] Here's another quicky

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=390075

[M3_Power]

Originally Posted by dazznz

Just get a comptech airbox for ABS DC2, they work very well, and they are half the price....if you can find one that is.

The snorkel on the comptech is quite small ... and it's essentially a stock ITR airbox modified without the resonator box ... I'd save some money and just DIY if you want to get a comptech box ...

Honestly .. the real reason that these airboxes work and make power isn't all in the box volume ... a lot of it is attributed to the Velocity stack that these filters carry ....


Cough### Blox Velocity stack #### Cough ...

[dazznz]

To be honest i dont see it being a problem fitting one. The issue is that you would have to slot the airbox in along side the dizzy, and then because you have dont this you would have to run a different shape intake pipe. Not a biggy really. Same design as the comptech.

[M3_Power]

Originally Posted by Mac

There's better versions than that Tom =] Here's another quicky

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=390075

That's the ABS version (DC version, ABS Version, New Version, Version 2) Mac ... that's why it fits ....

[dazznz]

Originally Posted by M3_Power

The snorkel on the comptech is quite small ... and it's essentially a stock ITR airbox modified without the resonator box ... I'd save some money and just DIY if you want to get a comptech box ...

Honestly .. the real reason that these airboxes work and make power isn't all in the box volume ... a lot of it is attributed to the Velocity stack that these filters carry ....


Cough### Blox Velocity stack #### Cough ...

Well i would disagree about the comptech airbox. I run one on my 2ltr motor, and it seems to work pritty well with that, and evan at speedfactor seems to think they are a very good airbox. I agree that the mugen one is a far nicer looking airbox though.

[M3_Power]

Originally Posted by dazznz

Well i would disagree about the comptech airbox. I run one on my 2ltr motor, and it seems to work pritty well with that, and evan at speedfactor seems to think they are a very good airbox. I agree that the mugen one is a far nicer looking airbox though.

I am not disputing that they aren't a good airbox ... I am merely saying that you can fabricate (or modify) one to function exactly the same out of a stock ITR airbox .... the design is essentially the same ...

[Mac]

Haha cheeky bugger Tom. I'll have to open the boxes here for a look.

[M3_Power]

Just thought I'd add these photos as I was asked whether the EK version mugen intake box (old version, version 1, Non ABS version) will fit into an eg6 chassis .... I remembered seeing a photo of it once .. it took me a little while to find it .. but here it is ....