Hondata Inlet manifold gaskets worthwhile?

[turbozxi]

Just wondering if there gaskets are worth getting I see someone is selling them cheapish on tardme was considering buying one.

Anyone seen any noticable gains or improvements using one?

Cheers

[chuckles2]

gizzmo work better then hondata and yes they are definatly worth it especially if your car visits the ciruit where heat build up will occur.

i havnt seent he ones on trademe but be carefull there are fake hondata's around.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by chuckles2

gizzmo work better then hondata and yes they are definatly worth it especially if your car visits the ciruit where heat build up will occur.

i havnt seent he ones on trademe but be carefull there are fake hondata's around.

Hi - proof please.

The only one I can see on Trademe starts at $70 and is second hand.

[Moclov]

Maybe he means this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...313433.htm?p=1

But it clearly states its not genuine Hondata...

[chuckles2]

gizzmo have proved theres holds back more heat then hondata and also can withstand more heat so wont melt like ronnie lims hondata 1 did.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by chuckles2

gizzmo have proved theres holds back more heat then hondata and also can withstand more heat so wont melt like ronnie lims hondata 1 did.

Hi - once again proof please. Passing on hear-say isn't proof. It's all I'm asking for - I'm not debating the benefits - just want the evidence.

[chuckles2]

im not guna bother wasting my time dragging up some old shit from years ago just to make you fell better about the stuff you sell,

like i said gizzmo have proved there gaskets hold back more heat and dont melt at high temps like the hondata gasket does and HAS in new zealand.

[Mac]

No need to take offense, I've clearly hit a nerve. The Internet is full of claims of something being better than something else - I just want to see proof. It has absolutely nothing to do with what I sell. Nice juxtaposition.

Nice to know that in order to back your claims you can't be bothered actually proving it. I'll take it with a pinch of salt.

[chuckles2]

its not my claim its gizzmo's claim, the man asked advice i gave it to him.

[Pommy]

Originally Posted by chuckles2

im not guna bother wasting my time dragging up some old shit from years ago just to make you fell better about the stuff you sell,

ROWR

[freestylin_hamster]

I was told by a man gizmo are shit.

Therefore. FACT.

[AL-]

it would be nice to see some facts to compare both hondata and gizzmos gaskets.

I'm currently using a genuine hondata phenolic gasket for my mainly street setup and havent had any issues and its been over a year

[MUGEN_TEG]

No problems with my hondata gasket and its been on 4 years.

[Coupe-R]

I installed my gizzmo gasket cause i was told it hold back more heat.

Its leaked fuel out of it ever since I installed it!!!!!!

Both surfaces were VERY clean with no marks or scratches in them.

The fiberous gasket lets a small amount of gas out. NOT COOL

[Pommy]

Originally Posted by AL-

I'm currently using a genuine hondata phenolic gasket for my mainly street setup and havent had any issues and its been over a year

Originally Posted by Coupe-R

I installed my gizzmo gasket cause i was told it hold back more heat.

Its leaked fuel out of it ever since I installed it!!!!!!

Both surfaces were VERY clean with no marks or scratches in them.

The fiberous gasket lets a small amount of gas out. NOT COOL

Originally Posted by MUGEN_TEG

No problems with my hondata gasket and its been on 4 years.

You must all be lieing as aparently Gizzmo is better? SO THERE.

[Logger]

I had one of the the old blue Hondata intake mani gaskets on my EF9 and it worked well. After a bit of spirited driving the intake mani was far cooler than with the original gasket. Same thing with my R although it has the newer generation white gasket. Haven't tried a Gizzmo one so cant comment on them.

[chuckles2]

Originally Posted by EVLTEK

Gizzmo (not so long ago) did some testing with a few different materials (after seeing Ronnie Lims Hondata gasket black and melted) to see which one would stand up to the most heat (ie restrict heat passing from head to intake manifold)...

Whilst HONDATA are rated to around 80 degrees or there abouts - the Gizzmo Phenolic compound gaskets are rated to 130!!!

[d16a7]

my hondata one is melting (ish) and discolouring

probably going to buy a phenolic one from trademe....

but in saying that my motor did see alot of rape... and also the gasket has been on and off a quite a few times...

[FLYRYD]

hahahahaha

gizzmo and hondata both suck, Stock FTW

anyways, sounds like the majority so far are not in favor of Gizzmo.
ive got a gizzmo gasket on my car but only because i couldnt get a hondata one.
the gizzmo gasket hasn't given me any troubles, although i think its changed color
looking at both gaskets, i think the gizzmo one looks kind of rough cutted.... (because of the material)

on a side note EVLTEK at FBI sells the Gizzmo one, which i think in a way his comment could be one sided?

[fatwagon]

just dont use one and then you have nothing to worry about - the cost versus hp gain must be piss all

[chuckles2]

yea but they comment he made he didnt just make up, the ratings are based on tests done on the parent material used to make the gaskets. its not like evltec did the test and made up the results

[nemesisteg]

Originally Posted by chuckles2

yea but they comment he made he didnt just make up, the ratings are based on tests done on the parent material used to make the gaskets. its not like evltec did the test and made up the results

big ups for backing it up :thumbsup: gizzmo and fbi and RSL are all right next to each other out west so im picking they dont just make things up about each others work or products, if you really want proof do some tests yourself, and see what you come up with. i run a gizzmo one, probably helps me out more then most with stock intakes because i have an alloy one which is quite prone to soaking up the heat from the head, gains or not i have no idea but havent had any problems with it.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by chuckles2

This has cleared it up none. I'd like to know why Ronnies gasket was black and melted, I'd also like to see where it shows that each gasket is rated to the temperatures Adam says. I don't expect you to show me though - it all just sounds like marketing nonsense to get people to switch to buying a new brand Company X now stocks.

I'm more than happy to take everyone else's first hand experiences as gospel (within reason), just not some random comment with some random numbers thrown in with no background information as to the cause of the problem. I'm not discrediting anyone, I just want proof.

It's like saying "Neuspeed springs suck cause they snapped" without saying "we ran these Neuspeed springs in our 15tonne truck for a laugh to see what would happen. They snapped in half so they suck!" In relation to the comments above, perhaps the gasket melted because of a hot-oil leak not because of normal operation. Gasket melted? Yes. Why? I don't know but I'd like to!

If (for example) in RSL's case the degredation in the gasket isn't as a result of normal operation then this doesn't discredit Hondatas gasket design at all - but if people just read the posts above of yours they can certainly be lead to believe that Hondata's gaskets are flawed. Further, Ronnies test subjects are hardly what I'd call normal - something doesn't work on a XXXhp race engine? Doesn't really say much about real-world functionality.

Also, Hondata's gasket design has changed (no doubt between Adams comments and now) using a different material and color. I'd hazard a guess that early tests on their older design would be irrelevant - but again few people would know this because they are not told! Misinformation sucks.

[WAY TC]

Originally Posted by FLYRYD

hahahahaha

gizzmo and hondata both suck, Stock FTW

OEM4LIFE

[Hayce]

Dont mind the red circle was for something else.
Hondata: