what should i spend the money on?

[NECRO]

hey iv got abit of money spare to spend on my motor after scraping together enough funds to buy a new gearbox an clutch and then finding out i only needed to replace the clutch so im just wondering what i should get done heres a list of what has already been done oh an the motor is b18cr in ej1 coupe
this is what has already been done to the motor
4-1 headers
2.5 exhaust system
js racing replica air intake
70mm throttle body
msd 8.5mm leads
iridium plugs
organic clutch
vafc 2 (will use this to tune the new mods)

heres what i was thinking about doing
fuel pump (as im only using the factory d16a pump at the mo)
fuel pressure reg
thinner head gasket or mill the head
adjustable cam gears (replace cam belt while im at it)
slight port & polish an port match
thermal intake gasket??
then a tune using the vafc

how does this look would it be worth doing for the gains? bearing in mind once i have done these mods i think il be focusing on the other aspects of the car such as brakes an interior an not going further on the motor not really interested in doing cams an quads an stuff as id rather spend that type of money on a k20a.
or i mite just get sum recaros an buy my paint an get it ready for painting but id rather spend the money on the motor!

cheers any advice would be appreciated

an dont tell me to search as i already have!

thankyou in advance

[chuckles2]

id do everything you have said acept the port n polish and the head gasket, but also do a full coolent bypass and give her a really good dyno tune.

You can also buy high strenght timing belts (greddy) from JRS in CHCH for $250 even tho they are more then standard its good peice of mind.

IMO: their is no piont taking the head off to do the gasket and the p&p if ya aint going ful hog with cams, retainers and springs etc.

Guess it depends how much money you have.

[civ_man]

Originally Posted by NECRO

heres what i was thinking about doing
fuel pump (as im only using the factory d16a pump at the mo)
fuel pressure reg
thinner head gasket or mill the head
adjustable cam gears (replace cam belt while im at it)
slight port & polish an port match
thermal intake gasket??
then a tune using the vafc

That sounds like a very nice list to add, how much coin do you have as the port and polish can quite expensixe. Maybe everything but the p & p.

[NECRO]

yeah im trying to sorta cut the list down abit so i can spend sum money in other areas

[Thank God 4 Vtec]

Instead of head milling and port n polish, get the spoon head gasket and some CTR pistons and rings, that'll bump up the compression 12:5:1 i'm thinking and the car will go harder but will need minimum 98 octane fuel, im saving to do this mod on my b18cr too..im using d13b fuel pump so yours should be sweet. .

[berman]

Originally Posted by chuckles2

id do everything you have said acept the port n polish and the head gasket

Port match as much as you can the inlet of the plenum to the throttle body,
Otherwise 70mm vs what, 64mm? You might get away with "bellmouthing" the plenum to improve the flow a bit, but I cant remember how much you can open these up. FBI have a 68mm Skunk2 plenum for about $550 from what I can remember. ?

ITR engines are hand assembled and hand ported from factory, unless you got something like 2k to spend on the p&p alone, (not including valvetrain upgrades) I wouldn't bother removing the head.

Make it breathe as much as possible, and good ignition.
Once you start opening the engine, you'd probably want to have the money to do everything you want i.e pistons/p&p/cams/valvetrain/headgasket etc otherwise you'll be spending money on the same things twice, like gaskets and labour.

What you've already suggested looks good, But IMO leave the headwork until you've got more to spend.

[Horny_Devil]

Originally Posted by chuckles2

id do everything you have said acept the port n polish and the head gasket, but also do a full coolent bypass and give her a really good dyno tune.

IMO: their is no piont taking the head off to do the gasket and the p&p if ya aint going ful hog with cams, retainers and springs etc.

Guess it depends how much money you have.

good advise thats what i would do

[gazmaster]

Originally Posted by berman

Port match as much as you can the inlet of the plenum to the throttle body,
Otherwise 70mm vs what, 64mm? You might get away with "bellmouthing" the plenum to improve the flow a bit, but I cant remember how much you can open these up. FBI have a 68mm Skunk2 plenum for about $550 from what I can remember. ?

The tb is 68mm, the plenum inlet is only 64mm. However it has plenty of meat that can removed :wink:

[NECRO]

so you recomend port matching the throttle body to the intake manifold? il find out how much it will cost from kelford an yeah i think il flag taking the head off as i kinda like the thought of having some nice red recaros to sit in while driving as im abit board with the interior

[NECRO]

hey where in chch do u recomend to go for dyno tune once its all done is canterbury car clinic allgood?

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by Thank God 4 Vtec

Instead of head milling and port n polish, get the spoon head gasket and some CTR pistons and rings, that'll bump up the compression 12:5:1 i'm thinking and the car will go harder but will need minimum 98 octane fuel.

personally im not a fan of super high compression as i've been told very horrible stories about pinging even on 98 octane fuel when accelerating even the slightest percentage!

i think the mods you currently have NECRO are enough for your setup as your car is already fricken light (being an eg and all

[NECRO]

its an EJ1 coupe to be exact so it wouldnt be to much lighter than an ITR so i need any advantage i can get plus i wana put it in the drags to see what it can do

[chuckles2]

Originally Posted by NECRO

hey where in chch do u recomend to go for dyno tune once its all done is canterbury car clinic allgood?

you mean columbus car clinic? which is eclipse dyno tuning. never used them myself but know people that have with good results, not hondas tho.

Other then that their is Harmen Motors, NZ EFI, or sinclare but dont go to him he is a theif.

[NECRO]

ok cool who out of thos places would u reckomend for honda coz i could just go to wellington an get it tuned at speedtech?

[Horny_Devil]

NZEFI are really good aye

[chuckles2]

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

NZEFI are really good aye

yep nzefi have a good dyno that is still pretty new and seem to know what they are doing, plus they are engine management specialist so they know what they are doing.

[NECRO]

hey can any one hook me up the fone number for nzefi?

[Matty]

I know you said you'll work on the brakes and interior next, but how about sinking the extra into even BETTER brakes than you would otherwise have got, or even better suspension? Straight line speed is fun but there's nothing cooler than being able to apply what power you have on a track rather than spinning it into oblivion becuase you can't put it down.

[chuckles2]

Originally Posted by Matty

I know you said you'll work on the brakes and interior next, but how about sinking the extra into even BETTER brakes than you would otherwise have got, or even better suspension? Straight line speed is fun but there's nothing cooler than being able to apply what power you have on a track rather than spinning it into oblivion becuase you can't put it down.

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[NECRO]

Originally Posted by Matty

I know you said you'll work on the brakes and interior next, but how about sinking the extra into even BETTER brakes than you would otherwise have got, or even better suspension? Straight line speed is fun but there's nothing cooler than being able to apply what power you have on a track rather than spinning it into oblivion becuase you can't put it down.

hey, yeah i realise how important it is to have a good handling an braking package, an not just spend all the money on the motor an thats why i have not just put king springs in it or sleeve coilovers but have spent extra an put HKS hyperdamper coilovers in it! with mugen an cusco strut braces and im looking at getting new lower tie bars as i just sold the ones i had as they werent going to fit an next on the handling list is front an rear adjustable camber, also i havent left the brakes stock i have already replaced the rear drums with DC2 SiR disc brakes an when i find sum i would like to put brembo 4pot calipers from a DC5R an custom discs in the front (if its possible or just do the prelude upgrade) but i cant do that until i find the calipers. but if anyone has any ideas on better brake upgrades that arent going to cost $3000 (as at the end of the day im not setting out to build a full on track car) let me know as thats not far away on the list. but at the moment im just trying to get it ready to see what it can do on a drag strip an after the 11th of november il let u know how that goes! yeah so i understand what your saying but i dont have an unlimited budget/rich parents/good paying job i have to do what i can, where I feel needs work, when i can.
but please i would definatly appreciate any advice on what would be a good upgrade for the front brakes an also any further things i could do to improve the handling as im definatly looking foward to putting it on the track when the chance comes along
thankyou