My Dyno results

PLYBOY · 9th May 2005, 07:17 PM

Hey,

Got my car tuned with the Vafc last week at Beyond.. was Hoping for at least 110kw atw.. and was well and truly supprised..

I have 98' Spec Type R headers, full 2 1/4 exhaust, TRR muffler, Pod, intake pipe and a VAFC.. oh yeh and little things like an Earthing kit.

UnitedWeFall · 9th May 2005, 07:27 PM

Shit, very nice for the mods you've done!! Good work! I hope to get mine up around 120 one day..

94lude · 9th May 2005, 07:34 PM

DAMN!! i got a BB4 lude and i only make 121kw with CIA, TRR 4-2-1 headders and coby exhaust!!!! im getting tuned next week with a VAFC at beyond aswell so hopefully i get a good result. those are great figures man!!!!!

PLYBOY · 9th May 2005, 07:38 PM

yeh i was stoked.. my first run was so bad.. it lost power at Vtec.. then shot up 20kw's.. i was mint.. then after some tuning i was smiling from ear to ear.. and thats on heavy ass 17's.. now i want more power!! :wink:

calibre · 9th May 2005, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 94lude

DAMN!! i got a BB4 lude and i only make 121kw with CIA, TRR 4-2-1 headders and coby exhaust!!!! im getting tuned next week with a VAFC at beyond aswell so hopefully i get a good result. those are great figures man!!!!!

seems pretty low man

, my mate got 127kw atw in his BB6 tiptronic a while ago, with only a pod, standard exhaust system and muffler, weird.

Integrated4Life · 9th May 2005, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLYBOY

yeh i was stoked.. my first run was so bad.. it lost power at Vtec.. then shot up 20kw's.. i was mint.. then after some tuning i was smiling from ear to ear.. and thats on heavy ass 17's.. now i want more power!! :wink:

How much did the dyno runs and tune cost ya if you dont mind me asking.
I might wanna do mine sometime too.

robstar · 9th May 2005, 08:44 PM

Daniel, a Dyno-tune with VAFC supplied and installed by Beyond will cost you about $800 to $900.

robstar · 9th May 2005, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calibre

seems pretty low man

, my mate got 127kw atw in his BB6 tiptronic a while ago, with only a pod, standard exhaust system and muffler, weird.

Yup, 121kw is pretty low, but it could be the dyno you used, as some read lower than other kinds of dynos such as Gizzmo's one that reads about 10% higher than Beyond's one from memory. Either your BB4 was on a low-reading dyno, or your mate's BB6 was on a generous one, it seems. Beyond's dyno is pretty accurate so if one of you guys was on Beyond's dyno or another Dyno Dynamics dyno then I'd take that to be correct. Americ_ian on this forum was making 146fwkw with bolt ons in his prelude H22A on his N/A set up without so you should be expecting AT LEAST 130kw at the wheels i think with bolt ons BEFORE vafc.

tianporn · 9th May 2005, 08:59 PM

Cost $250 to tune VAFC. Dunno if that has changed or includes GST or not

trend.whore · 9th May 2005, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robstar

Daniel, a Dyno-tune with VAFC supplied and installed by Beyond will cost you about $800 to $900.

Shit thats quite expensive,how much is a VAFC by itself?

OT: I always wondered,how do they do a dyno on an auto car?

deedubz · 9th May 2005, 10:43 PM

shit man, pretty impressive! YEah how much did this set you back?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tianporn

Cost $250 to tune VAFC. Dunno if that has changed or includes GST or not

Is this including the dynoing etc? Is this from Beyond as well?

PLYBOY · 10th May 2005, 05:40 AM

How much did the dyno runs and tune cost ya if you dont mind me asking.
I might wanna do mine sometime too.[/quote]

It cost me 250 for the tune with VAFC... which i thought was ok..

94lude · 10th May 2005, 06:10 AM

did you guys install the VAFC youself or get beyond to do it?? i got quoted $400 for an install and tune. it seemed expensive!!!

PLYBOY · 10th May 2005, 07:26 AM

i installed the VAFC by myself.. not too hard.. shit.. if i can do it.. you can.. but 400 to install and tune is ok.. its roughly 250-300 to tune.. and it takes at least an hour to install the VAFC properly.. so thats ok

deedubz · 10th May 2005, 05:14 PM

slightly off the topic but I have a tuned Gizzmo chip and have I/H/E, if I want to install a V-AFC, do I need to get rid of the Gizzmo chip?

Jake_Sale · 10th May 2005, 05:18 PM

I dont think so

mr.sky · 10th May 2005, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deedubz

slightly off the topic but I have a tuned Gizzmo chip and have I/H/E, if I want to install a V-AFC, do I need to get rid of the Gizzmo chip?

No i ran a vafc and a gizzmo chip for a while without problem

$250 is pretty average for a tune lasting a couple of hours

lidistick · 10th May 2005, 05:44 PM

ok noob question.
Can U use the stock ECU and dyno tune that?
My plan is to get a pod filter and a TRR twin loop muffler and hopefully some better extractors later.

Car is an Accord SIR (tiptronic).
Cheers.

tianporn · 10th May 2005, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lidistick

ok noob question.
Can U use the stock ECU and dyno tune that?
My plan is to get a pod filter and a TRR twin loop muffler and hopefully some better extractors later.

Car is an Accord SIR (tiptronic).
Cheers.

You can, but you would need to modify the ECU. www.pgmfi.org
And from the info i have I dont think you could hack your ECU as your car will be OBD2. Just stick to a VAFC

robstar · 10th May 2005, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deedubz

slightly off the topic but I have a tuned Gizzmo chip and have I/H/E, if I want to install a V-AFC, do I need to get rid of the Gizzmo chip?

I dont think so? If you have both, you could be making some really good gains

Usually people choose either Gizzmo chip OR VAFC, but if you can have both then I suppose its best

tianporn · 10th May 2005, 07:25 PM

I guess if you have a chip thats tuned to perfection then theres not really much of a point with the VAFC right? (except for the bling factor)

Grin-T · 10th May 2005, 07:53 PM

I think Beyond's dyno actually reads higher than Gizzmo.

I have seen similair cars with the same setup get lower numbes at Gizzmo than at Beyond.

deedubz · 10th May 2005, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tianporn

I guess if you have a chip thats tuned to perfection then theres not really much of a point with the VAFC right? (except for the bling factor)

yeah but say in the near future, ill do more mods then i can get it dyno tune again with the V-AFC

PLYBOY · 10th May 2005, 09:30 PM

from what ive read ablout on the forums, having a chip is better then just having the VAFC.. as you factory ecu works alot faster then the piggyback VAFC, therefore its able to adjust fuel etc to match the right foot etc... i only got it tuned with the VAFC because i paid bugger all for it.. which made it cheaper for me to do this.. and i get some bling to go with it.. i have no idea which dyno reads higer/lower.. ive only used Beyonds.. im glad i got the VAFC as if and when i decide to spend more on go fast bits i can hopfully just use this to compensate instead of getting a chip re written..

robstar · 11th May 2005, 07:21 AM

Yes, a chip by itself is much better than a VAFC by itself, as with a chip you can adjust timing whereas with a VAFC I believe it doesnt have that function. For people like me, who Gizzmo havent done chips for before, the VAFC is a better/more financially viable option.

P.S. I was told that Beyond's dyno read lower than Gizzmo's by the guys at Beyond, so I assumed it was correct.

9th May 2005, 07:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
PLYBOY Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,350 Location: Auckland	My Dyno results Hey, Got my car tuned with the Vafc last week at Beyond.. was Hoping for at least 110kw atw.. and was well and truly supprised.. I have 98' Spec Type R headers, full 2 1/4 exhaust, TRR muffler, Pod, intake pipe and a VAFC.. oh yeh and little things like an Earthing kit.

9th May 2005, 07:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
94lude Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 125	DAMN!! i got a BB4 lude and i only make 121kw with CIA, TRR 4-2-1 headders and coby exhaust!!!! im getting tuned next week with a VAFC at beyond aswell so hopefully i get a good result. those are great figures man!!!!! __________________ Check out my profile!!!

9th May 2005, 08:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
robstar Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,449	Daniel, a Dyno-tune with VAFC supplied and installed by Beyond will cost you about $800 to $900. __________________ B18C EG9 - sold

9th May 2005, 08:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
tianporn Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,683 Location: Auckland	Cost $250 to tune VAFC. Dunno if that has changed or includes GST or not __________________ NZH PhotoCrew.

10th May 2005, 06:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
94lude Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 125	did you guys install the VAFC youself or get beyond to do it?? i got quoted $400 for an install and tune. it seemed expensive!!! __________________ Check out my profile!!!

9th May 2005, 07:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
UnitedWeFall Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,952	Shit, very nice for the mods you've done!! Good work! I hope to get mine up around 120 one day..

9th May 2005, 07:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
PLYBOY Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,350 Location: Auckland	yeh i was stoked.. my first run was so bad.. it lost power at Vtec.. then shot up 20kw's.. i was mint.. then after some tuning i was smiling from ear to ear.. and thats on heavy ass 17's.. now i want more power!! :wink:

10th May 2005, 05:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
PLYBOY Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,350 Location: Auckland	How much did the dyno runs and tune cost ya if you dont mind me asking. I might wanna do mine sometime too.[/quote] It cost me 250 for the tune with VAFC... which i thought was ok..

10th May 2005, 07:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
PLYBOY Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,350 Location: Auckland	i installed the VAFC by myself.. not too hard.. shit.. if i can do it.. you can.. but 400 to install and tune is ok.. its roughly 250-300 to tune.. and it takes at least an hour to install the VAFC properly.. so thats ok

10th May 2005, 05:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
deedubz Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 627 Location: North Shore City	slightly off the topic but I have a tuned Gizzmo chip and have I/H/E, if I want to install a V-AFC, do I need to get rid of the Gizzmo chip? __________________ "REV hard or don't REV at all"

10th May 2005, 05:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jake_Sale Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 842	I dont think so __________________ My H22A BB6 SOLD http://profiles.nzhondas.com/profile1545.html PM Looking for ITR Offers Please Ajmo Hrvatska

10th May 2005, 05:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
lidistick Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 304 Location: Hamilton	ok noob question. Can U use the stock ECU and dyno tune that? My plan is to get a pod filter and a TRR twin loop muffler and hopefully some better extractors later. Car is an Accord SIR (tiptronic). Cheers.

10th May 2005, 07:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
tianporn Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,683 Location: Auckland	I guess if you have a chip thats tuned to perfection then theres not really much of a point with the VAFC right? (except for the bling factor) __________________ NZH PhotoCrew.

10th May 2005, 07:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
Grin-T Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,865 Location: Auckland	I think Beyond's dyno actually reads higher than Gizzmo. I have seen similair cars with the same setup get lower numbes at Gizzmo than at Beyond.

10th May 2005, 09:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
PLYBOY Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,350 Location: Auckland	from what ive read ablout on the forums, having a chip is better then just having the VAFC.. as you factory ecu works alot faster then the piggyback VAFC, therefore its able to adjust fuel etc to match the right foot etc... i only got it tuned with the VAFC because i paid bugger all for it.. which made it cheaper for me to do this.. and i get some bling to go with it.. i have no idea which dyno reads higer/lower.. ive only used Beyonds.. im glad i got the VAFC as if and when i decide to spend more on go fast bits i can hopfully just use this to compensate instead of getting a chip re written..

11th May 2005, 07:21 AM	#25 (permalink)
robstar Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,449	Yes, a chip by itself is much better than a VAFC by itself, as with a chip you can adjust timing whereas with a VAFC I believe it doesnt have that function. For people like me, who Gizzmo havent done chips for before, the VAFC is a better/more financially viable option. P.S. I was told that Beyond's dyno read lower than Gizzmo's by the guys at Beyond, so I assumed it was correct. __________________ B18C EG9 - sold

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