DrRubbers NoOb questions and progress thread.....update !!

[fr3ek]

Easy. Split one RCA in to two and plug in to the two white inputs. Split the other and plug in to the red inputs.

For bridged output (from what I can see), one sub will come off the top set, positive on the left most terminal, negative on the third from left. Repeat for other sub on the bottom set.

... yes you need RCA splitters

[DrRubber]

yea I know how to....was just wondering if that was the best idea.....as I do have two preouts from the HU as well as a sub out.........maybe is better to use the two preouts instead ??? or no diff ??

and yea the whole bridging bit ive done all that before also.....

[fr3ek]

You could, but as these are front and rear preout, if you hit the fader button to control your speakers front to back, also you'll have one of your subs go louder or quieter than the other.

[DrRubber]

ahhhh, yup thats exactly what i needed to know......so if I run it off the SW output, will It still fade out ?? or does it fade seperate from the rear fade ?? or not at all ???

I should go and have a play with the HU but I havnt and probably wont untill I chuck in the amp, which for the record I didnt get time to do today as I got busy

[grandell]

wtf Steven? why can't he use one set of RCA's and set the input to 2 channel?

and Greg, chances are it won't fade with the rears, but will have its own completely separate controls

[DrRubber]

Originally Posted by grandell

wtf Steven? why can't he use one set of RCA's and set the input to 2 channel?

and Greg, chances are it won't fade with the rears, but will have its own completely separate controls

lol, good point....I didnt even stop to look but there is a switch for input select !!!!

heh, yea cool thanks man I thought it must have its own controls for sub control.

[fr3ek]

Originally Posted by grandell

wtf Steven? why can't he use one set of RCA's and set the input to 2 channel?

Hmm... yes. Damn these flash Pioneer amps. I'm sure if I got to pick up the amp I would have seen that

Sub out is generally non-fading. Set your amps filters to off or all pass so you can adjust the filters from the head unit.

[DrRubber]

well I hooked up the amp today and got it all under the seat and nice......and it didnt go ........

Untill I founmd the remote wire had come free of its crimp terminal !!!

IT LIVES !!!

But in definate need of some MDF I feels......good bass......but not quite wholesome enough.....

Still need to play with the HU and the gains etc but sofar im pretty happy

[XPLOIT]

Im in this to see what the Wife says

Good work though Greg,

[fr3ek]

Ideas stolen from an Oz forum:









That's in a 2001 Camry wagon. Seperate boxes built to fit in the sides there.

Mmm... Seas Lotus

[XPLOIT]

Awesome!

I want to do that!

Seas Lotus? Never heard of it

[fr3ek]

Seas have been made in Norway for nearly 60 years.

More Seas info.

[DrRubber]

thats very cool but how the fuck do ya build a box like that ???

twice.......

and not fuck it up

[fr3ek]

Cut all the pieces at once.

Looks to be built from thin MDF, then the inside is bulked up with chopped strand mat. You can see a bracket below the sub, and one in the top right holding the box in.

[DrRubber]

lol, yea Not my domain eh......cars/suspension/tyres/wireing is cool but I cant do that kinda stuff.

ill have to make a builder friend I think

[DrRubber]

ok so heres the new plan to accomadate for DVD viewing for both kids.....

I have found a damn cheap roof mount LCD so ill throw that in using ANOTHER HU

just got a no name DVD player like this



and will run it at the same time as my existing HU with a seperate pair of switched speakers in the rear doors....so the mrs can listen to the radio whilst the kids watch DVD.

however I can switch off those speakers when I turn the CD HU into AUX mode and listen/watch DVD.

as illustrated here......

[fr3ek]

Some problems you may run in to:

When listening to DVD, being able to match volume of the front and rear speakers

Subs will be playing the radio and will need to overpower the rear DVD speakers

The DVD output being suitable as input for the Panasonic unit

Heaps of room for rear speakers in the doors. Make up an MDF baffle for the big hole at the bottom front of the door. Cut a hole in the door card, fit a carpeted spacer to the door card to finish it off, then add the speaker grill to the spacer.

[DrRubber]

Originally Posted by fr3ek

Some problems you may run in to:

When listening to DVD, being able to match volume of the front and rear speakers

when watching (adult) dvd rear speakers will be switched off so only my existing system would be making the noise

Subs will be playing the radio and will need to overpower the rear DVD speakers

mrs dosnt use the subs....she just trebles out in the front.....she hates bass

The DVD output being suitable as input for the Panasonic unit

o'rlly ??? damn didnt think of that.....surely being as its not a video signal just audio it should be fine ???

hmmm guess ill find out soon enough !!

Heaps of room for rear speakers in the doors. Make up an MDF baffle for the big hole at the bottom front of the door. Cut a hole in the door card, fit a carpeted spacer to the door card to finish it off, then add the speaker grill to the spacer.

hmm yea was wondering how I was going to go about that bit......sounds really easy to do it when you put it like that......I was just considering fitting them behind the panel due to the lack of need for them to sound good.....they are only going to be in operation with the DVD player for the kids.....

Now the other thing whilst I have your attention mr Fr3ck

I scored some infinity fronts the other day with crossovers and tweeters....for $10

Anywho Whats the best thing to do with the tweeters ?? I dont like them in your earhole (if you remember back I never wanted them !!!) and I hate it when you jump in a car and theres a tweeter hanging off a speaker wire because they were put somewhere daft and got kicked/knocked off by some baboon.

would you still get some noise from them mounted kinda at the bottom of the dash up under the plastic panel ??

[fr3ek]

Originally Posted by badcf4

o'rlly ??? damn didnt think of that.....surely being as its not a video signal just audio it should be fine ???

Maybe, just thought I'd bring it up.

Originally Posted by badcf4

I scored some infinity fronts the other day with crossovers and tweeters....for $10

Best position is where you like them. I've had them in the kicks as you suggest, but the sound doesn't come out from there too well. In the sail panels they are a bit high. Personally, on the door card immediately above the woofer, or on the sill panel immediately below the woofer.

[DrRubber]

ok cool we'll see how we go......I wont be installing it all for a few weeks yet as im going to have to strip the guts out of the car again.
will throw up pics etc as I go

[ThundaChild]

Get IR headphones for the kids and you don`t need sound anywhere else........
They can hear better with them and you can use the stereo for what you want......

[DrRubber]

heh, I considerd this but not sure if he will wear them.....plus what do they plug into ?

I guess a 3.5mm female > RCA audio out......??

would save a bit of stuffing around thats for sure

[DrRubber]

Ok so did a little installing today.......roof mount in and both head units in.

thought about the speaker debarkle and still not 100% as to my plan....IR headphones would be good the more I think about it so might have a look online soon....anyway piccies on









yes that is madagasca on the screen and yes I am wearing my mrs pink jandles.

[DrRubber]

so after some pissing around with some tweeters etc I had I realised this was a piss in the wind (falling off etc) so back on to trademe I went and for $19 got a pair of tweeters to supply dialouge for the kiddies movies.
I wanted them out of reach but within earshot so heres what I did.

marking out rear upper head/kick panel





once tweeter is poked through the metal ring locates it firmly to the panel



getting ready to make hole in panel for tweeter

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mmm,forgot to get a pic with the hole cut but anyway here is the tweeter mounted in the panel.





easy peasy........until I went to fit them to the car and realised I didnt quite have enough backspace

down to work to grab my drill and the bosses holesaw and all good trimmed out the panel steel like so



by the time I got to the second hole the "wood" holesaw had said STFU so the second cut was more like this



all good,some love with the hammer and sidecutters cleared that up.

the finished product





the whole system now works the way I had originally intended and I can still run my own DVD's into the AUX of the panasonic HU should I wish to do so.

no more stereo gear now.......well untill I get another car