16 or 18?

ZzZz · 24th June 2008, 08:53 PM

Hey all

I've got abit of ponder going...

I've recently gotten an eh9 civic in pretty good nick for 1500$ wof easy once breaks are done, and it currently has a d16a, but you know...

and b18c's have this rep of being excellent engines and so i went and priced it up and its gnna cost me about 1950$ for standard edition and 5.5k for type R

then... I've recently found a b16a engine with conversion kit for 950$..

im just wondering, whats the better bet? fork out the 2-5.5k for the typeR 18
or get the 16?
cheers
Ignorant Civic guy

vti · 24th June 2008, 08:54 PM

buy my b16a and throw a manual gear box on it, should come with engine mounts too as i dont think i need them and take my lom off me it should just be plug and play then and will cost you less than $950

it will also come with standard headers just needs crank pulley

bmgjet · 24th June 2008, 09:07 PM

b18c if you want to whip major ass. Or just b16a for a bit more added power over what you have now.

Or be insane and get a h22a.

d16a7 · 24th June 2008, 09:11 PM

i wouldnt bother with b16a.. go b18c man.. trust me you will love the extra torque (as thats what makes the d16a fun to drive.. )

so with the b18c has the torque and the power..

thirdson · 24th June 2008, 09:57 PM

sorry for stealing the thread......
just like ZzZz said..what bout b18c, b18cr??ofcourse b18cr is going to be better but was wondering if the gas consumption of them are the same saying they are both 1.8 litres..

and is forking out the extra 4k for the r going to be worth every cent???is the difference worth 4k?

or is it that the type r has better parts?

tuned-r · 24th June 2008, 10:55 PM

I am running B18CR in my EG6 with 4.7 FD. No regret.
Fat torque and plenty of rev to go.

T-R

Air2there · 25th June 2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmgjet

Or be insane and get a h22a.

I'd do this....Oh wait...I am

Pommy · 25th June 2008, 11:14 AM

b16a and spend the extra money on a turbro kit, and whip b16s, b18s and h22a's all day long

grandell · 25th June 2008, 11:24 AM

how much would a basica turbo setup cost? running stock internals, compared to a fully forged beast

like Air2There said too, H22 conversion is an option too, not sure how much conversion kits are, but engines are cheaper

Pommy · 25th June 2008, 12:33 PM

cost of a turbo setup has been gone over again and again.. and again..

but research has shown that it could be done reasonably (thats NOT perfectly) for 2.5g's... but im gunna get pwned for saying that so yea forget the turbo thing

DC2r · 25th June 2008, 01:14 PM

I have a b18cr conversion sitting here

Imo no point going to the effort of converting to b16 as egs come in that form already (eg6/9 sir) so may as well pay that little extra and go b18c atleast.

H22a is an option, plentiful cheap motors.. and getting common these days, power and torque!

lowproz · 25th June 2008, 01:35 PM

i reckon that since your car is a 4 door you should probably ge an 18 or a 22

ZzZz · 25th June 2008, 01:46 PM

cheers thanks for the advice all

bmgjet · 25th June 2008, 04:13 PM

hybrid a b20 vtec swop, Just throwing some more options out there.

WingIt · 25th June 2008, 04:39 PM

I personally wouldnt bother with anything.

Its your first car, so just leave it as is for a couple years while you get experiance.
Then buy something with the conversion already done if your not mechanically minded.
Will work out much cheaper

DC2r · 25th June 2008, 04:40 PM

for fucks sake edit your sig so it doesnt extend out past the screen!!!!!!!!

vti · 25th June 2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommy

b16a and spend the extra money on a turbro kit, and whip b16s, b18s and h22a's all day long

yea that's a good idea

Air2there · 25th June 2008, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZzZz

cheers thanks for the advice all

If you go for a swap, post up. I might be keen to help a bit.

ZzZz · 25th June 2008, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air2there

If you go for a swap, post up. I might be keen to help a bit.

cheers il keep thatt in mind eh

Gudgen · 26th June 2008, 08:37 PM

for the same money as a typeR conversion you could do an H2B, which is an H22a and a b-series gearbox mated together via an ingenius adaptor plate. very rare conversion in NZ.

just a thought.

americ_ian · 27th June 2008, 05:05 PM

im gunna break the norm and say

K20A!!!

Gudgen · 27th June 2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by americ_ian

im gunna break the norm and say

K20A!!!

you truly did break the mould when you popped out your mom's vaganus.

americ_ian · 27th June 2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gudgen

you truly did break the mould when you popped out your mom's vaganus.

oh aye? was i suposed to come outta my dads anoose like yourself?

Gudgen · 27th June 2008, 10:57 PM

you came out your mom's vagina and anus. you broke the mould by ripping the skin in between..

mr_tec · 27th June 2008, 11:18 PM

first people learn they have a penis AND then they learn sex ed. what will next week be like...?

24th June 2008, 08:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
ZzZz Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 74 Location: Lower Hutt	16 or 18? Hey all I've got abit of ponder going... I've recently gotten an eh9 civic in pretty good nick for 1500$ wof easy once breaks are done, and it currently has a d16a, but you know... and b18c's have this rep of being excellent engines and so i went and priced it up and its gnna cost me about 1950$ for standard edition and 5.5k for type R then... I've recently found a b16a engine with conversion kit for 950$.. im just wondering, whats the better bet? fork out the 2-5.5k for the typeR 18 or get the 16? cheers Ignorant Civic guy __________________ I got my Honda I got my bit-C-h Now wheres my CAKE?

24th June 2008, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
vti Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,052 Location: Auckland	Re: 16 or 18? buy my b16a and throw a manual gear box on it, should come with engine mounts too as i dont think i need them and take my lom off me it should just be plug and play then and will cost you less than $950 it will also come with standard headers just needs crank pulley

24th June 2008, 09:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
bmgjet Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,608 Location: New Plymouth	Re: 16 or 18? b18c if you want to whip major ass. Or just b16a for a bit more added power over what you have now. Or be insane and get a h22a. __________________ Sponsors: Mag And Tyre Direct - Nakibox

24th June 2008, 09:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
d16a7 Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,131 Location: Auckland	Re: 16 or 18? i wouldnt bother with b16a.. go b18c man.. trust me you will love the extra torque (as thats what makes the d16a fun to drive.. ) so with the b18c has the torque and the power.. __________________ PROJECT EJ - D Ninja

24th June 2008, 09:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
thirdson Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 376 Location: Waitakere	Re: 16 or 18? sorry for stealing the thread...... just like ZzZz said..what bout b18c, b18cr??ofcourse b18cr is going to be better but was wondering if the gas consumption of them are the same saying they are both 1.8 litres.. and is forking out the extra 4k for the r going to be worth every cent???is the difference worth 4k? or is it that the type r has better parts? __________________ Flickr Photostream

24th June 2008, 10:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
tuned-r Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Ngongotaha	Re: 16 or 18? I am running B18CR in my EG6 with 4.7 FD. No regret. Fat torque and plenty of rev to go. T-R

25th June 2008, 11:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
Pommy Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,530 Location: Lower Hutt	Re: 16 or 18? b16a and spend the extra money on a turbro kit, and whip b16s, b18s and h22a's all day long __________________ current:cd6 SIR EX:93 wrx, EF9, H22A EG, R32 GTST, 300ZXTT, Teg SIRG! Back to the VTEC goodness!

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grandell Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,676 Location: Wellington	Re: 16 or 18? how much would a basica turbo setup cost? running stock internals, compared to a fully forged beast like Air2There said too, H22 conversion is an option too, not sure how much conversion kits are, but engines are cheaper __________________ WSC \| DLS Speaker Pimps \| Rolling Jaguar Productions

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Pommy Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,530 Location: Lower Hutt	Re: 16 or 18? cost of a turbo setup has been gone over again and again.. and again.. but research has shown that it could be done reasonably (thats NOT perfectly) for 2.5g's... but im gunna get pwned for saying that so yea forget the turbo thing __________________ current:cd6 SIR EX:93 wrx, EF9, H22A EG, R32 GTST, 300ZXTT, Teg SIRG! Back to the VTEC goodness!

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DC2r Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,085 Location: Wellington	Re: 16 or 18? I have a b18cr conversion sitting here Imo no point going to the effort of converting to b16 as egs come in that form already (eg6/9 sir) so may as well pay that little extra and go b18c atleast. H22a is an option, plentiful cheap motors.. and getting common these days, power and torque! __________________ 1997 EK4 Si B18c Turbo for sale $10g ONO

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lowproz Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,272 Location: Auckland	Re: 16 or 18? i reckon that since your car is a 4 door you should probably ge an 18 or a 22 __________________ FS: eg sedan. auction closing on Sunday, reserve met - AUCTION ENDING IN 1 HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1one, get in quick!

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ZzZz Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 74 Location: Lower Hutt	Re: 16 or 18? cheers thanks for the advice all __________________ I got my Honda I got my bit-C-h Now wheres my CAKE?

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WingIt Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,460 Location: Whakatane	Re: 16 or 18? I personally wouldnt bother with anything. Its your first car, so just leave it as is for a couple years while you get experiance. Then buy something with the conversion already done if your not mechanically minded. Will work out much cheaper __________________ Mugen 無限 Equipped l TEAMFBI Yo! l 41 l Race car trapped in a Wagons Body l ML Racing

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