Thoughts on a H22a into DA7

[_deagle_]

Heya guys..

Have thought about this for quite a while now.. So I'd just like some thoughts on my idea

I have chosen to go for the H22a, as putting in a B16a is not worth the time - Could buy an XSi instead.

Yes I have done ABIT of research...

List to do.

Get mounts imported. H22a > DA
Convert from carby to FI - Using XSi Petrol tank and pump etc.
Make some sort of a Cable to Hydro' conversion bracket
Convert to OBD1 using Prelude ECU, seeing im using a '93 Prelude H22a

And as for axles, I'll be attempting to use a standard DA6 axle with prelude/accord inner's?

And any other comments/suggestions please!

No i'm not going to K20 it.

Cheers! =)

[Chaos]

you might also want to think what you're gonna do with power steering if the engine comes with it. And think about how to the shifter mechanism will be transplanted, if its different. Apart from that you've got a good list. will you use a conversion harness for the ecu then?

[_deagle_]

Originally Posted by Chaos

you might also want to think what you're gonna do with power steering if the engine comes with it. And think about how to the shifter mechanism will be transplanted, if its different. Apart from that you've got a good list. will you use a conversion harness for the ecu then?

Thanks for the input =)

Ummm I really think I should use a conversion harness? Or I could convert using wires 1 by 1..?

Hmm.. what to do with the power steering?

[americ_ian]

ditch it

[bmgjet]

+1 ditch it a buy a car thats already FI to start with.

Like DA8 then just get a b20b/z block.

Would cost less and same sort of results or better depending how well u build it.

[crxmad]

Originally Posted by _deagle_

Heya guys..

Have thought about this for quite a while now.. So I'd just like some thoughts on my idea

I have chosen to go for the H22a, as putting in a B16a is not worth the time - Could buy an XSi instead.

Yes I have done ABIT of research...

List to do.

Get mounts imported. H22a > DA
Convert from carby to FI - Using XSi Petrol tank and pump etc.
Make some sort of a Cable to Hydro' conversion bracket
Convert to OBD1 using Prelude ECU, seeing im using a '93 Prelude H22a

And as for axles, I'll be attempting to use a standard DA6 axle with prelude/accord inner's?

And any other comments/suggestions please!

No i'm not going to K20 it.

Cheers! =)

Good idea but i think that sounds like a big job!!

The H22a would give good power and torque but is also heavier than a B series motor.
I would look for a efi crx , civic or teg and drop your motor in with a hasport mount kit.

[Green Machine]

h22a is heavier but not by much was reading a thing in the usa where a guy weighed it all and h22a was any about 11-15kgs heavier. The torque from an h22a is awesome. Dont think your standard axles would work. Have a look at what the americans use. Research, reseatch research. Till you have everything covered from wiring diagrams to knowing exactly where to cut. Installing the shifter is not as hard as people make out. Infact I found it piss easy in an eg. Ditch the power steering as you dont really need it and get a manual rack out of an ef.
Good Luck, Keep us updated.
Haden

[Bananaman]

Originally Posted by _deagle_

Make some sort of a Cable to Hydro' conversion bracket

Don't need to make anything. Use the prelude shift and cables and away you go.

Good luck I am sure you won't be dissapointed.

[gotvtec]

Does H2B work with the cable xsi gearboxes or is it just for the DC EG EK hydro 'boxes?
If it does it could be easier to just get a DA6/DA8 as then you'll have a compatible 'box and it's already injected so less hassles there too.

[Trench_Rat]

Originally Posted by Bananaman

Don't need to make anything. Use the prelude shift and cables and away you go.

Good luck I am sure you won't be dissapointed.

think he was referring to the clutch , i made my own pedal box when i put s80 in my ef8 will try get some pics to show you what i did might be helpful

[Chaos]

Originally Posted by bmgjet

+1 ditch it a buy a car thats already FI to start with.

Like DA8 then just get a b20b/z block.

Would cost less and same sort of results or better depending how well u build it.

i think Ian was talking about the power steering

[Bananaman]

Originally Posted by Trench_Rat

think he was referring to the clutch , i made my own pedal box when i put s80 in my ef8 will try get some pics to show you what i did might be helpful

*thud!* Final clicked onto that.

Well good luck either way. You are going to need it.

[VTAKYO]

Flag the DA7 IMO. They are the lowest of the low in terms of chassis. Still have drum rear brakes, no swaybars, etc.

If you do choose to go H22A, then keep in mind you won't be needing to do a OBD swap as the carbies don't use a normal FI loom, or any ECU of sorts.

[americ_ian]

lol h22a motor heavy...

IMO, as others have said anything to do with that chassis is weaksauce
no swaybars, weak brakes

If u were to h2b it, the rocker cover/intake would stil 2 inches out of the hole that ud have to make in your bonnet, yes a cable linkage would work (i think)

youd need a WHOLE B series drivetrain from a da6/8, another PITA to find
especialy since youd have to get a rebuilt one, and with a decent lsd, otherwise ul have notchy syncros and a floppy gearstick and a single spinning wonder going nowhere

also ud have to loose PS/ and relocate the alternator, shave back of block etc

if u were to use the h22a box as well, ud need a mount kit( they even make them??)
cut holes for shifter etc etc, maybe even make clearance for the intake manifold (just like EF swaps)

and then it wont handle as good as a B series of h2b swap...

i coulkd go on and on about why its a bad idea to put an h22a into a da7...but smoko time is over...

[DC2r]

Originally Posted by VTAKYO

Flag the DA7 IMO. They are the lowest of the low in terms of chassis. Still have drum rear brakes, no swaybars, etc.

If you do choose to go H22A, then keep in mind you won't be needing to do a OBD swap as the carbies don't use a normal FI loom, or any ECU of sorts.

da7's are fuel injected and afik da5s are the carb ones.

[bmgjet]

My mate had 2 da7s one duel carb (SOHC) and one injected (DOHC).
I also was looking at a da5 not too long ago that was injected (SOHC VTEC).

[AccordB20A]

would be good if you needed a little more to your family 4 door da7 but for race you would definately have to swap subframes with a XSI

[VTAKYO]

Originally Posted by DC2r

da7's are fuel injected and afik da5s are the carb ones.

No. DA7 are the 4-Door D-series and can be either carby or injected. Same goes with DA5, except it is the 2-door coupe.

At the top he says:

Convert from carby to FI - Using XSi Petrol tank and pump etc.

[b_series_power]

Originally Posted by VTAKYO

No. DA7 are the 4-Door D-series and can be either carby or injected. Same goes with DA5, except it is the 2-door coupe.

At the top he says:

i have a 4 door integra with a sohc zc fi and the chassis a da5

[GDB]

^cool^

zx = carbd
zxi = injected

[VTAKYO]

Originally Posted by b_series_power

i have a 4 door integra with a sohc zc fi and the chassis a da5

That is really odd:
1989-1993 Integra Specification

3 Door Coupe: DA5 (ZX/ZXi)/DA6(XSi/RSi)
4 Door Sedan: DA7 (ZX-Extra/ZXi)/DB1 (ESi)/DA9 (XSi)

Anyway, thats totally off-topic...

[Green Machine]

I think if you got these (im sure ef and da are the same) http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=29150

Should make the job alot easier. Adam at fbi can get them in for you aswell. Great mounts!

[itsjdm]

go b20

[nva2nd]

I wouldnt reccommend it as well.

Start off with a da6 at least.

Cable clutch will work with h2b