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| Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jul 2006
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Location: Timaru | Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch Hi I'm doing a B16a into Eg...problem is I have a Hyd clutch & the B16 has a cabel trans...whats easy..change the clutch to cable or ??....your sugestions welcomed cheers
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| Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch stick with hyd clutch
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Location: New Plymouth | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch I know you can get converter things that go cable to hydro or hydro to cable. Just cant remember where I saw them. Some one will be able to give you a link im sure. But if it was me I would just run a cable clutch cant be too hard. Just need to drill the hole bigger and get a cable clutch peddle box or mod up some way to fit the cable on your current one. ~~~ just rememberd it was hasport that had the conversion things |
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| Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Dec 2006
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Location: Auckland | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch ^^^ you = tard there is no such thing as making a cable clutch work on an EG it just wont happen.. why would you go backwards not forwards.. its like putting a carbie eb civic motor into an EG... Get a hydro clutch box and be done with it.. cable clutches are the <80's and thats where they should stay
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| Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002
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Location: Tauranga | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch haha there is nothing wrong with the cable clutch, your car actually would be slightly lighter with a cable clutch, and one last thing to service etc. sell the cable box and buy a hydro one P.S no gains from hydro over cable really (not performance anyways )I guess the pedal may be easy to press with heavy clutches tho |
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| Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch cable clutches pwn hydralic. they never break like everyone says they do and i would rather undo a cable than a hydro line and have to replace it and bleed it when i install the engine again. My personal opinion. if you cant fit the cable clutch into the eg u have no choice than to use the hydro clutch.
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| Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch Quote:
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to the OP if your car comes with a hydraluic clutch get a hydraluic gearbox, if it comes with a cable clutch get a calbe gearbox simple as that | ||
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| Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch yep exactly what Jase said.
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch Quote:
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anyway... if you purchased this engine and box combo a high chance is that its a b16a1 combo which means it runs an obd0 ecu system. unless on the same chance its from a facelift DA6...
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Location: Tauranga | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch clutch cylinder on the firewall will leak onto the pedal box before a clutch cable brakes, I bet ya ![]() And you just unbolt the clutch slave of the gearbox and leave it to one side. no bleeding the system |
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch Quote:
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Location: Napier | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch Sounds like an interesting combo their mate. Will be a bit of F***N around changing it to cable clutch when your car already has a hydraulic setup as factory. Why put an OBD0 box on a OBD1 car?? Id say its easier just to sell your box and buy another one thats off a 2nd Generation civy or teg. I would assume the box you have is cable speedo and that wont work in your EG anyway unless you have the right VSS to put on it. |
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch Civic have an electronic speedo. integras are cable speedos/
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch The speedo drive isnt part of the gearbox, either type will swap over from box to box.
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| Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jul 2006
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Location: Timaru | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch I brought this as a 1/2 cut...B16a Gen 2,complete with Ecu, axles, struts, sub frame, loom..when I went back to the importer that sold the the set up to me..trying to swoop the trans for a hyd unit, It suprised me a little but they didn't really wanta know..intsead tryed to sell me 1..From what I know, you need a B series trans to bolt up to a B engine and a hydo trans for them have taken a jump in $...I now hav a cable peddel box ect ... but the speedo bit is interesting..thanks for heaps of imfo..cheers
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch So was the 1/2 from an EG Civic? it cant be if its a cable type box. If its gen 2 and cable box it can only be from a DA6 Facelift, in which case it will have a YS1 gearbox which you will sell very easily.
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch should of asked around on here first before purchase. but like andrew said, ys1 will be very easy to sell.
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Mar 2003
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Location: Waitakere | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch something else that might change your mind: hydro boxes have bigger synchros. cable ones dont last as long. except for a YS1 cable which has the same size as a hydro. only a real retard would put a cable box into a hydro car.
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| Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002
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Location: Tauranga | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch Something else that no one has mentioned (I don't think) The cable box uses different mounts! cable has front cross memeber and hydro does not. |
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| Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jul 2006
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Location: Timaru | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch I've been stiched up well and truely here everthing you say is dead right....was cheap though..u live and learn ae...Know anyone with a Hydo box for sale lol
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) | Re: Witch way to go..hyd or cable clutch what kinda of b16a is it??
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