NZHondas.com

Go Back   NZHondas.com > NZH - Technical > Hybrid

Hybrid Discuss the How To's Swapping Engines.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 26th May 2008, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
b18cteg
Junior Member
700rpm (Idle)
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 7
Location: Christchurch
manual conversion

hey all , i drive a 1993 b18c teg, yes its auto,

well anyways i really finally want to do a conversion, well really get someone to do it for me, im down here in chch, can anyone recommend someone good and cheaply, and what sort of things do i need to do it

were do i start?
b18cteg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th May 2008, 04:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
bmgjet
Senior Member
5,000rpm (VTEC Power!)
 
bmgjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,394
Location: New Plymouth
Re: manual conversion

im doing mine on wensday, Ill be able to do a complete write up after that so prob on Friday.

What u will need is.

gearbox
shifterlinkage + shifter
clutch pedel box
flywheel
clutch
pressure plate
clutch cable or hydro stuff depending on gearbox.
manual ecu

I dont know if yours is the same but on my da6 I will also need to move the mount and drill hole for clutch cable.
__________________
Sorry
bmgjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th May 2008, 04:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
Horny_Devil
Senior Member
18,000rpm+ Honda F1!
 
Horny_Devil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,873
Location: Auckland
Send a message via MSN to Horny_Devil
Re: manual conversion

ull need a manual engine mount(??) or u can get an aftermarket one
__________________
D Series Guru
Horny_Devil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th May 2008, 05:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
bmgjet
Senior Member
5,000rpm (VTEC Power!)
 
bmgjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,394
Location: New Plymouth
Re: manual conversion

alright, Iv done the conversion on mine, Didnt need a mount you can just modify the bit on the gearbox to fit, You just have to bend it a bit.

Its a pretty straight foreword swoop, Should take about a day. Also to add to the list of parts you will need a manual dash cluster because the auto one has the shifter stuff in the middle and you fail a warrant if you have that with a manual I heard.

The hardest bit is the actual lifting the auto box and and lifting the manual back in. IT gets very heavy when your holding it up waiting for some one the bolt it in.

If you were doing it yourself it might take 2-3 days.
__________________
Sorry
bmgjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th May 2008, 06:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
AccordB20A
Senior Member
3,000rpm (Grandma Drag)
 
AccordB20A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 455
Location: Stratford
Send a message via AIM to AccordB20A Send a message via MSN to AccordB20A
Re: manual conversion

duno about you but i find the easyest easyest way is to pull the whole engine and box out when doing the swap yourself.thats what i have been doing on the 4 or 5 accords i have swapped to 5 speed by myself.

so bmgjet your tegs manual now?!?!?!
__________________
Fail
AccordB20A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th May 2008, 06:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
bmgjet
Senior Member
5,000rpm (VTEC Power!)
 
bmgjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,394
Location: New Plymouth
Re: manual conversion

yeap. Just need a new gearbox tho my current manual im using has a phucked bearing and you can hear it when there no load on the engine or when down shifting.

Traction control is gone now aswell lol. haven't tested the abs yet to see if its still work but it should be lol.
__________________
Sorry
bmgjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th May 2008, 10:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
VTAKYO
Team NZH: Retired
11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!)
 
VTAKYO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,791
Location: Christchurch
Re: manual conversion

PM vtec_junky, he should be able to assist with the conversion. If he can't, try 2Sifty.

If you can't get ahold of either I'd highly reccomend the team at Spec Performance.

In addition to the parts above, I believe you will also need a manual head as the automatic ones have lower specs.
__________________
¤ HYDR8 @ Trance.NU :: NUMARK ¤
¤ Afterhours FM :: Redefining The Media ¤
VTAKYO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th May 2008, 11:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
haimsadia
Senior Member
5,000rpm (VTEC Power!)
 
haimsadia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,354
Location: Auckland
Send a message via MSN to haimsadia
Re: manual conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by VTAKYO View Post
PM vtec_junky, he should be able to assist with the conversion. If he can't, try 2Sifty.

If you can't get ahold of either I'd highly reccomend the team at Spec Performance.

In addition to the parts above, I believe you will also need a manual head as the automatic ones have lower specs.
your assumtion is crrect
__________________
EX-dc2 & da6 | my BUILD thread ----->127kW | my PICTURE thread | my Flickr photostream
haimsadia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th May 2008, 11:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
bmgjet
Senior Member
5,000rpm (VTEC Power!)
 
bmgjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,394
Location: New Plymouth
Re: manual conversion

Auto head works fine, just means you will have 9hp less and only safe to rev up to 8000rpm. Or just change out the cams and valve springs. cost about 150 labour for some one to do + another 100 for parts.
__________________
Sorry
bmgjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th May 2008, 11:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
bumpd-EG
Senior Member
4,000rpm (Taxi Drag)
 
bumpd-EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 590
Location: Auckland
Re: manual conversion

I still ran mid 14s on an auto b18c in my old teg ?
the cams are slightly different
bumpd-EG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd June 2008, 08:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
Nyemetz1
Senior Member
5,000rpm (VTEC Power!)
 
Nyemetz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,383
Location: Auckland
Send a message via MSN to Nyemetz1
Re: manual conversion

B18c cams are different I dont think the whole head is. As for bending the mount wont work on dc2 da has a different mount its 2 piece where as the dc on is a one piece, I recommend the hasport auto to manual mount saves a lot of hassle.
__________________
Want meets with other enthusiasts too? Nissan, ,Toyota, Subaru etc -www.jspecgroup.com
Nyemetz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2008, 11:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
bumpd-EG
Senior Member
4,000rpm (Taxi Drag)
 
bumpd-EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 590
Location: Auckland
Re: manual conversion

just drill out the 8 spot welds and reweld the a manual bracket where it needs to sit
bumpd-EG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2008, 11:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
Horny_Devil
Senior Member
18,000rpm+ Honda F1!
 
Horny_Devil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,873
Location: Auckland
Send a message via MSN to Horny_Devil
Re: manual conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpd-EG View Post
just drill out the 8 spot welds and reweld the a manual bracket where it needs to sit
ummm are u sure ur allowed to do that?
__________________
D Series Guru
Horny_Devil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2008, 12:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
Shadow Sol
Senior Member
6,000rpm (Max Torque)
 
Shadow Sol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,995
Location: Hamilton
Send a message via MSN to Shadow Sol
Re: manual conversion

yes you can do it - although its ment to be certified as its structural
__________________
daily CBR125R - toy H22 EG
Shadow Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2008, 06:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
bumpd-EG
Senior Member
4,000rpm (Taxi Drag)
 
bumpd-EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 590
Location: Auckland
Re: manual conversion

I have done it on about 10 manual swaps ive done....
never had a problem I would say that a good Mig weld would be alot stronger than a spot weld
bumpd-EG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2008, 06:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
Horny_Devil
Senior Member
18,000rpm+ Honda F1!
 
Horny_Devil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,873
Location: Auckland
Send a message via MSN to Horny_Devil
Re: manual conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpd-EG View Post
I have done it on about 10 manual swaps ive done....
never had a problem I would say that a good Mig weld would be alot stronger than a spot weld
still doesnt make it legal or the right way to do it though does it?
__________________
D Series Guru
Horny_Devil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2008, 07:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
bumpd-EG
Senior Member
4,000rpm (Taxi Drag)
 
bumpd-EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 590
Location: Auckland
Re: manual conversion

if you want to go pick at someone then dont bother with me, I cant be bothered. you seem to "know" so much, experience with actually doing it and talking is different.
legality, I have never been questioned about it to be fair and I have never heard of it being a problem either to
my 2c
bumpd-EG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2008, 08:17 PM   #18 (permalink)
dc2 integra
Junior Member
700rpm (Idle)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 11
Location: Auckland
Re: manual conversion

How much would it cost for a manual conversion? just parts
dc2 integra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th June 2008, 11:36 AM   #19 (permalink)
Horny_Devil
Senior Member
18,000rpm+ Honda F1!
 
Horny_Devil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,873
Location: Auckland
Send a message via MSN to Horny_Devil
Re: manual conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpd-EG View Post
if you want to go pick at someone then dont bother with me, I cant be bothered. you seem to "know" so much, experience with actually doing it and talking is different.
legality, I have never been questioned about it to be fair and I have never heard of it being a problem either to
my 2c

its written into the WOF manual, and just cause u havent been caught still doesnt make it the right way to go about things.

and im not picking at u, im just making the point that its not the legal or right way to go about doing it, hey if u want to do it fine that your choice.
__________________
D Series Guru
Horny_Devil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th June 2008, 11:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
bumpd-EG
Senior Member
4,000rpm (Taxi Drag)
 
bumpd-EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 590
Location: Auckland
Re: manual conversion

yeah and its also illegal to do alot of things
like have loud exhaust and so on...
its a minor thing seriously
bumpd-EG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2008, 05:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
Horny_Devil
Senior Member
18,000rpm+ Honda F1!
 
Horny_Devil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,873
Location: Auckland
Send a message via MSN to Horny_Devil
Re: manual conversion

minor?

ur taking about the thing which holds up the gearbox? not minor if it fails is it.
__________________
D Series Guru
Horny_Devil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2008, 06:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
AccordB20A
Senior Member
3,000rpm (Grandma Drag)
 
AccordB20A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 455
Location: Stratford
Send a message via AIM to AccordB20A Send a message via MSN to AccordB20A
Re: manual conversion

so what? your newer hondas have different chassis from auto to manual???

cant you grab a whole manual engine and box from a manual model, mounts and all and it will just fit?? without pissing around welding and cutting up shit? thats legal if u use OEM mounts..??..

or is it the subframe thats different?
__________________
Fail
AccordB20A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2008, 02:57 AM   #23 (permalink)
Lowrider Integra
Senior Member
4,000rpm (Taxi Drag)
 
Lowrider Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 756
Location: Auckland
Re: manual conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wohdog View Post
so what? your newer hondas have different chassis from auto to manual???

cant you grab a whole manual engine and box from a manual model, mounts and all and it will just fit?? without pissing around welding and cutting up shit? thats legal if u use OEM mounts..??..

or is it the subframe thats different?

The manual chassie mount on eg/dc is different you have to drill out old one and get new one welded on or go see adam at FBI and get a manual converion mount and no welding is needed
__________________
broom broom go bang
Lowrider Integra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th July 2008, 04:47 AM   #24 (permalink)
spoon.
Senior Member
700rpm (Idle)
 
spoon.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 122
Location: Wellington
Send a message via MSN to spoon.
Re: manual conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by bmgjet View Post
alright, Iv done the conversion on mine, Didnt need a mount you can just modify the bit on the gearbox to fit, You just have to bend it a bit.

Its a pretty straight foreword swoop, Should take about a day. Also to add to the list of parts you will need a manual dash cluster because the auto one has the shifter stuff in the middle and you fail a warrant if you have that with a manual I heard.

The hardest bit is the actual lifting the auto box and and lifting the manual back in. IT gets very heavy when your holding it up waiting for some one the bolt it in.

If you were doing it yourself it might take 2-3 days.
are u sure about that? coz my mates got a eg9 which was auto then manual conversion and passed Cert and WOF fine..
__________________
JDM MoNkey y0~
spoon. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th July 2008, 07:22 AM   #25 (permalink)
SLOTEG
Senior Member
8,000rpm (B Series Redline!)
 
SLOTEG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,405
Location: Carterton
Send a message via MSN to SLOTEG
Re: manual conversion

if its certed then its fine man, dash or not.
i think he means an uncerted auto/manual conversion
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWDOWN
I dont mind admitting I dont like you ... nobody on this forum particularly likes you..


SLOTEG is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
conversion, manual

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar