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Old 12th June 2005, 05:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2003 Euro R vs 2001 H22A Euro R

which of the engine will produce a better performance?
any list of information about this two engines?


would a 2003 Euro R fit in BB6 prelude? lol

wat is the model chasis for 2003 Euro R? K24A?
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Old 12th June 2005, 06:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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anything will fit if u have the money

id go for the bigger engine as generally the more cc's u have the more power u can make
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Old 12th June 2005, 06:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Could you possibly start any more threads?

Wait.. Don't answer that.
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Old 12th June 2005, 06:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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anything will fit if u have the money

id go for the bigger engine as generally the more cc's u have the more power u can make
ya, but i wanna know whether the K24A Euro R is actually more powerful than 2003 Euro R, on the horse power or accelerating etc
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Old 12th June 2005, 06:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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H22A:

Max Power - 220HP (161.81 kw) / 7200RPM
Max Torque - 22.5 kg*m (220.65 N*m) / 6700RPM


K20A Euro R (can't find K24A)

Max Power - 220HP (161.81 kw) / 6800RPM
Max Torque - 21.0 kg*m (205.494 N*m) / 6000RPM
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Old 12th June 2005, 07:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Given the above specs, the price to buy, and the price to convert - I'd say the H22A-S would be the only option.
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Old 12th June 2005, 07:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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dont forget that k20a has a six speed and unless you get the euro-r h22a not the type-s you are going to have shit gear ratios. The one thing that lets down h22a's is the gear ratios.
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Old 12th June 2005, 09:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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dont forget that k20a has a six speed and unless you get the euro-r h22a not the type-s you are going to have shit gear ratios. The one thing that lets down h22a's is the gear ratios.
so u mean K20A has better gear ratio?

wat abt Euro R H22A one?

so typeS H22A gear ratio sux?

how do u know wat gear ratio is good?
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Old 12th June 2005, 11:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The one thing that lets down h22a's is the gear ratios.


unless you have a euro-R h22a T2W4 gearbox that is.


rascallyman, honestly man, get the basics first before you even start with the engines, the more you ask now the more you're getting
confused.
Your other threads has been already very very clear that a K20A will not bolt into your prelude, or in fact ANY K series without spending heaps of $$$ which has already been said is not worth it.

Again, the only engine that is suitable for you is either the prelude Type-S 220hp h22a or the Euro-R 220hp, these are the ONLY engines that will bolt into your prelude and is worth doing.

IF you acctually took the time to read around the net, you would have found out easily from say honda.co.jp that CL7 Accord Euro-R's only come in K20A.

the CL1 Euro-R H22A T2W4 gearboxs are the best and closest ratio with the most agressive LSD's on any h22a that was ever made out of Honda, so no euro-R gearbox does not suck.

CL7 Euro-R's k20 gearbox will have a closer ratio then that of a t2W4 gearbox because it has 6 speed compared to the h22a's 5 speed, but really at the end of the day, it's been answered in so many of your threads already that the best way is just to go for a h22a.

IF you wanted to get a Euro-R engine/gearbox, and do a conversion I would recommand you rather just sell your car and get a prelude type-S or something.

prelude Type-S gearbox does not suck, but it just isn't as close ratio as the euro-R h22a gearbox.
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Old 13th June 2005, 07:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
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hehe, thx man, coz i m thinking to drive my car until 150 - 200k, then do a engine and manual conversion instead of engine rebuilt.....so just wanna know more abt them
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Old 13th June 2005, 02:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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thats a good one... or wait til u need major engine overhaul, or worse, u blow ur engine... hehehe but yea, u can start saving now. to do swap, at todays rate, u are looking at around $5000 for h22a-r (from euro-r) swap. takeiteg will explain and fix any error if found. so yea... good luck.
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Old 13th June 2005, 04:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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sorry i was referring to standard h22a gear ratios not a euro-r, sorry not clear enough.

I think a full euro-r conversion from strongs is $6000 + gst.
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Old 13th June 2005, 10:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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sorry i was referring to standard h22a gear ratios not a euro-r, sorry not clear enough.

I think a full euro-r conversion from strongs is $6000 + gst.
sik.... 8O 8O 8O no kidding??? thats a lot...!!! but given the big output, it doesnt look that big tho....
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Old 14th June 2005, 07:56 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Why not just keep your H22A and get camshafts etc, modify it? H22A is not such a hopeless engine you know, you dont have to spend 6k getting a brand new engine, for 6k you could start a real good NA or simple but effective turbo set up
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Old 14th June 2005, 09:43 AM   #15 (permalink)
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$6000+ i can make any shit h22a make more power then any euro-r engine, feck I could even turbo the fuc*er, lol.

with $6000 + GST

i could get a Top fuel 2.3L stroker kit, crank, rods and pistons, then a jun Stage 2R or a crower Stage 3 cams head package, and then a really good aftermarket ecu, finish it off here, re-port and polish the whole engine, and then spend $1000ish to doing a auto to manual conversion.

I'd be a freaking 300hp n/a monster.

$6000+GST to go from 190 or 200hp to 220hp dosen't sound that ideal to me.
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Old 14th June 2005, 09:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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i could get a Top fuel 2.3L stroker kit, crank, rods and pistons, then a jun Stage 2R or a crower Stage 3 cams head package, and then a really good aftermarket ecu, finish it off here, re-port and polish the whole engine, and then spend $1000ish to doing a auto to manual conversion.

I'd be a freaking 300hp n/a monster.

$6000+GST to go from 190 or 200hp to 220hp dosen't sound that ideal to me.
shit yeah, do that!
There was a Type-S Lude being sold on here for around 8.5k I think? up till just last week, you would have been better off selling yours, and buying that already 220ps and manual .
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Old 14th June 2005, 10:42 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i could get a Top fuel 2.3L stroker kit, crank, rods and pistons, then a jun Stage 2R or a crower Stage 3 cams head package, and then a really good aftermarket ecu, finish it off here, re-port and polish the whole engine, and then spend $1000ish to doing a auto to manual conversion.

I'd be a freaking 300hp n/a monster.

$6000+GST to go from 190 or 200hp to 220hp dosen't sound that ideal to me.
shit yeah, do that!
There was a Type-S Lude being sold on here for around 8.5k I think? up till just last week, you would have been better off selling yours, and buying that already 220ps and manual .
i was suprised that he sold his type S for 8500...coz most type S still for at least 13000 i think....and some even up to 15000....

and i was told that, dont get cam and stuff on my tiptronic prelude, not worth it, but how can a auto to manual conversion be just 1k?? i would do it right away if it's 1 k....lol i thought at least 3k...
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Old 14th June 2005, 12:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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likely 1k doing it yourself...with a used box.
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Old 14th June 2005, 06:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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likely 1k doing it yourself...with a used box.
that must be it. its basically just plug and play. considering u hav couple friends helping you and u borrow tools and equipments needed for peanuts... i mean, for free.
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