so you want ITR rear lower control arms.

remoer · 17th July 2008, 10:28 AM

so i got a 97 ITR r/lca for free so i went over to some of the other forums just to see what they felt about putting an ITR on a 88-95 Crx/Civic. of course all the idiots came out with every reason why it will and won't work. it wasn't till i pulled out pics that they shut the fuck up and started to say but, but, but. so i guess the proof is in the pudding. so i thought i would take pics of the Si rear lower control arm side by side a ITR rear lower control arm. here what i found. now i will say this i want ITR r/lca so i can run a full coilovers, not shocks w/springs but Koni w/ CG coilovers is also an option.(but not for me).
EDIT: i couldn't edit my first post with links cause i've exceeded my links. lol. so theyt're on my post below.
now i want o stated that they're both the same legthen from the center of the sub frame bolt to the center of the trailarm 34cm/13.5in. now the sway bar eye sits in the sam place same height. but is different is tthe level od the shock bolt on the ITR vs the Si. on the ITR it even w/the subframe bolt and the trail arm bolt. now the Si the shock bolt sit lower about alittle over 1". so using the ITR lca isn't the problem. but since it's higher and you don't do any type of adjustment you will end with postive camber... not good. so w/a camber kit and/or adjustable coilover this is only a small problem.

both the lca were the same length, width but the only thing that was different was the shock bolt on the ITR it sits the same leve as the other two bolt holes, but on the Si it sits lower by a little over 1". hence all i would have to do is adjust the springs. and as some like to say the ITR is "beefier" lol.

Horny_Devil · 17th July 2008, 10:53 AM

remoer how did u end up finding this site?

cause ive seen u a lot on D-series.org

remoer · 17th July 2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

remoer how did u end up finding this site?

cause ive seen u a lot on D-series.org

well i'm a forum whore joiner. i'm a member of like 97 forums. if you look i've been a member here since 2006. what happen was i became a member at my job back in new york. my old email and so forth. i spoke with gecko and he straighten out. yes D-series is my home but it become so mundane every now and then.so after a while so i go on a sabatical and hit other forums. lol. i thought that was you. now i guess there are several of ya here that knows me. i wonder if the Topaussie is a member here, too.

MMJA · 17th July 2008, 12:34 PM

I've got a pair of Rear LCA's out of my ITR if anyone needs it. Upgraded to Skunk2 items so have no use for them now.

Soichiro · 17th July 2008, 12:56 PM

Had me confused for a while, our EF LCA's are the pressed steel type same as the top (ITR) ones in your photo. I haven't seen the welded EF ones you show on the bottom of the photo.

Was hoping it was the other way round, I actually want the shock hole an inch lower on my EF to bring the car down.

Horny_Devil · 17th July 2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by remoer

well i'm a forum whore joiner. i'm a member of like 97 forums. if you look i've been a member here since 2006. what happen was i became a member at my job back in new york. my old email and so forth. i spoke with gecko and he straighten out. yes D-series is my home but it become so mundane every now and then.so after a while so i go on a sabatical and hit other forums. lol. i thought that was you. now i guess there are several of ya here that knows me. i wonder if the Topaussie is a member here, too.

haha yea ive slowed down on D-series too since having my car written off. got a B now

i dont know he might be a member here but i cant say ive seen him, hed be whoring his car if he was here

also remember USDM and JDM have some differances

remoer · 17th July 2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Soichiro

Had me confused for a while, our EF LCA's are the pressed steel type same as the top (ITR) ones in your photo. I haven't seen the welded EF ones you show on the bottom of the photo.

Was hoping it was the other way round, I actually want the shock hole an inch lower on my EF to bring the car down.

damd it my bad i kep forgeting when i speak to ppl on this lil planet that our USD r/lca are different then the ITR r/lca. or may i say they're oem to everyone else except us in the states.

Hayce · 17th July 2008, 01:49 PM

I skimmed it but you say the ITR LCA fits 88 - 00 civic? Not so.

americ_ian · 17th July 2008, 02:05 PM

yeah wats going on?

Ped Rac3r · 17th July 2008, 03:38 PM

Hes fitting the ITR rear LCA's to a EF Civic.

Hayce · 17th July 2008, 04:19 PM

Which end in what 91? Big gap from 00

remoer · 18th July 2008, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayce

I skimmed it but you say the ITR LCA fits 88 - 00 civic? Not so.

how do you mean not so. i just put them in my USDM rex. i guess i sprink pixie ghey dust you pop up and it worked. but again you said it doesn't work. go figure.

edit: it was 88-95 civic. typo, my bad. i'll post up the 96-00 when i get a r/lca from a 96-00 civic. and believe me i'll get one.

Hayce · 18th July 2008, 07:31 AM

Pixie ghey dust I pop up? Fuck off cock.

EG/DC arms do NOT fit our EK's. EK arms are EK specific as they are longer than EG/DC. LOL oh I believe you'll get one, its a stock arm not exactly rare.

MMJA · 18th July 2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayce

Pixie ghey dust I pop up? Fuck off cock.

EG/DC arms do NOT fit our EK's. EK arms are EK specific as they are longer than EG/DC. LOL oh I believe you'll get one, its a stock arm not exactly rare.

Very true, EK LCA's are about 41cms long and DC LCA's are about 34cms long.

americ_ian · 18th July 2008, 03:13 PM

LOL he called out the hayce! bad mistake

pixie ghey dust!!!!

Bananaman · 18th July 2008, 03:18 PM

Thats gold. House of LOL for this thread.

doo0T!doo0T! · 18th July 2008, 03:33 PM

^^ Ha ha crack-up. Hayce I've never seen the anger before you're usually pretty chilled.

Yes ITR and EF are easily interchangeable, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they aren't so I don't know who you have been talking to.
As Horny Devil has said though most of our EF's are JDM and JDM EF's have eye type pressed steel arms just like an ITR.
New Zealand new ones are the same as USDm but NZDM EF shape (ED) civics are barely ever modified as the most powerful one was a GTi/LXi (same as USDM Si) so why bother when you can have a JDM Si with dohc ZC or an SiR with the B16a.

Putting the ITR arm in your car wont give you positive camber, if the overall length from end to end of the LCA is the same it wont effect suspension arm geometry at all. The only thing the bottom shock mount position effects is ride height.
But since you said you are going to a full coilover the shock body length is adjustable anyway so it no longer matters.

What you have there is a straight swap in affair but no-one here in NZ needs to use ITR arms as our JDM EF's already have them. The only difference is the lower shock eye is like 3mm wider on an ITR than it is on a JDM EF but it doesn't matter because you can either shave the shock eye to fit or spread the arm. the shocks in the back of my crx are originally intended to fit an ITR and I had to spread the lower arm out to fit the eye into the arm but it was no biggie.

JDM hondas seem to outnumber NZDM hondas like 50-1 here.

Hayce · 18th July 2008, 03:53 PM

Haha umm yea preggers got 2 hours sleep last night, I started this entire day off on the wrong foot. Not to worry I have regained my cool, beer time yo!

Coupe-R · 19th July 2008, 09:56 AM

doot doot just summed up why this ITR LCA thing doesn't really matter for us.

I mean we could use a EG or DC LCA and it would be the same, EYE type for us.

EXCEPT on NZ new or JDM EJ1 coupe is not eye

remoer · 19th July 2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayce

Pixie ghey dust I pop up? Fuck off cock.

EG/DC arms do NOT fit our EK's. EK arms are EK specific as they are longer than EG/DC. LOL oh I believe you'll get one, its a stock arm not exactly rare.

stop talking dirty to me it's not going work with me. lol.

yeah i retract my coment.

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Originally Posted by americ_ian

LOL he called out the hayce! bad mistake

pixie ghey dust!!!!

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Originally Posted by Bananaman

Thats gold. House of LOL for this thread.

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Originally Posted by doo0T!doo0T!

^^ Ha ha crack-up. Hayce I've never seen the anger before you're usually pretty chilled.

JDM hondas seem to outnumber NZDM hondas like 50-1 here.

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Originally Posted by Hayce

Haha umm yea preggers got 2 hours sleep last night, I started this entire day off on the wrong foot. Not to worry I have regained my cool, beer time yo!

n/p, i like a good flaming. horny devil and doo0t doo0t know me from d-series.org. they know thats what i do if you slip up, i'll flame the shit out of you. so please by all means i will say flame on cause you'll need this, in return.

nemesisteg · 19th July 2008, 12:45 PM

you can flame as much as you like- your still a cock

dam e-thugs

americ_ian · 19th July 2008, 12:50 PM

hayces long life goal is to be ultimate mega fighter flamer guy champion..

remoer · 19th July 2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nemesisteg

you can flame as much as you like- your still a cock

dam e-thugs

whoa, whoa. i've been called alot of things but an e-thug i am not. i only flame those who deserve it. hey i underestand you've probly ask some noobish question and got flame. hey we all have but there no need to habor ill feelings from being flame so much. get your thong un wedge and deal with it.

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Originally Posted by americ_ian

hayces long life goal is to be ultimate mega fighter flamer guy champion..

well i guess i know the competition now. woo hoo, i guess i have a new avy on all the other forums i'm a member of. thanks.

nemesisteg · 19th July 2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayce

I skimmed it but you say the ITR LCA fits 88 - 00 civic? Not so.

that comment looks pretty fair to me, definately dont see anything n00b there, except maybe the fact someone prior had stated there is a group of civics from 88-00 which all have the same rear lca setup, i wont name names tho
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any takers on who the n00b is here?? back on topic tho.. its a pretty safe bet that not many people "want" itr lca's, in fact im taking my itr lca's out this week

17th July 2008, 10:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
remoer Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 32 Location: Outside NZ: United States	so you want ITR rear lower control arms. so i got a 97 ITR r/lca for free so i went over to some of the other forums just to see what they felt about putting an ITR on a 88-95 Crx/Civic. of course all the idiots came out with every reason why it will and won't work. it wasn't till i pulled out pics that they shut the fuck up and started to say but, but, but. so i guess the proof is in the pudding. so i thought i would take pics of the Si rear lower control arm side by side a ITR rear lower control arm. here what i found. now i will say this i want ITR r/lca so i can run a full coilovers, not shocks w/springs but Koni w/ CG coilovers is also an option.(but not for me). EDIT: i couldn't edit my first post with links cause i've exceeded my links. lol. so theyt're on my post below. now i want o stated that they're both the same legthen from the center of the sub frame bolt to the center of the trailarm 34cm/13.5in. now the sway bar eye sits in the sam place same height. but is different is tthe level od the shock bolt on the ITR vs the Si. on the ITR it even w/the subframe bolt and the trail arm bolt. now the Si the shock bolt sit lower about alittle over 1". so using the ITR lca isn't the problem. but since it's higher and you don't do any type of adjustment you will end with postive camber... not good. so w/a camber kit and/or adjustable coilover this is only a small problem. both the lca were the same length, width but the only thing that was different was the shock bolt on the ITR it sits the same leve as the other two bolt holes, but on the Si it sits lower by a little over 1". hence all i would have to do is adjust the springs. and as some like to say the ITR is "beefier" lol. Last edited by remoer; 18th July 2008 at 03:27 AM.

17th July 2008, 10:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Horny_Devil Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,497 Location: Auckland	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. remoer how did u end up finding this site? cause ive seen u a lot on D-series.org __________________ D Series Guru My Profile - My Website - My Build Thread V2.0

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MMJA Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,881 Location: Howick	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. I've got a pair of Rear LCA's out of my ITR if anyone needs it. Upgraded to Skunk2 items so have no use for them now. __________________ 2001 CL1 Torneo Euro-R Type R Group Aucklanders Unite Eastsiderz

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Soichiro Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,665 Location: Otaki	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. Had me confused for a while, our EF LCA's are the pressed steel type same as the top (ITR) ones in your photo. I haven't seen the welded EF ones you show on the bottom of the photo. Was hoping it was the other way round, I actually want the shock hole an inch lower on my EF to bring the car down. __________________ Greetings from sunny Otaki This is Toa country

17th July 2008, 01:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hayce Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,035 Location: Hamilton	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. I skimmed it but you say the ITR LCA fits 88 - 00 civic? Not so. __________________ ....................................EK molester!..................gtrefinishers

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americ_ian Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,938 Location: Hamilton	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. yeah wats going on? __________________ Ex D16a Ex b16a, ex b18cr, ex h22a turbo, ex h2b, ex k20a.... Current: F20c!!!!!! 12.8 @ 171.88 1.7 60ft!

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Ped Rac3r Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 453 Location: Auckland	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. Hes fitting the ITR rear LCA's to a EF Civic.

17th July 2008, 04:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hayce Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,035 Location: Hamilton	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. Which end in what 91? Big gap from 00 __________________ ....................................EK molester!..................gtrefinishers

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Hayce Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,035 Location: Hamilton	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. Pixie ghey dust I pop up? Fuck off cock. EG/DC arms do NOT fit our EK's. EK arms are EK specific as they are longer than EG/DC. LOL oh I believe you'll get one, its a stock arm not exactly rare. __________________ ....................................EK molester!..................gtrefinishers

18th July 2008, 03:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
americ_ian Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,938 Location: Hamilton	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. LOL he called out the hayce! bad mistake pixie ghey dust!!!! __________________ Ex D16a Ex b16a, ex b18cr, ex h22a turbo, ex h2b, ex k20a.... Current: F20c!!!!!! 12.8 @ 171.88 1.7 60ft!

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Bananaman Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,327 Location: Foxton Beach	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. Thats gold. House of LOL for this thread. __________________ It is better to have a Honda and no Money, than it is to have Money and no Honda.

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doo0T!doo0T! Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,566 Location: Auckland	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. ^^ Ha ha crack-up. Hayce I've never seen the anger before you're usually pretty chilled. Yes ITR and EF are easily interchangeable, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they aren't so I don't know who you have been talking to. As Horny Devil has said though most of our EF's are JDM and JDM EF's have eye type pressed steel arms just like an ITR. New Zealand new ones are the same as USDm but NZDM EF shape (ED) civics are barely ever modified as the most powerful one was a GTi/LXi (same as USDM Si) so why bother when you can have a JDM Si with dohc ZC or an SiR with the B16a. Putting the ITR arm in your car wont give you positive camber, if the overall length from end to end of the LCA is the same it wont effect suspension arm geometry at all. The only thing the bottom shock mount position effects is ride height. But since you said you are going to a full coilover the shock body length is adjustable anyway so it no longer matters. What you have there is a straight swap in affair but no-one here in NZ needs to use ITR arms as our JDM EF's already have them. The only difference is the lower shock eye is like 3mm wider on an ITR than it is on a JDM EF but it doesn't matter because you can either shave the shock eye to fit or spread the arm. the shocks in the back of my crx are originally intended to fit an ITR and I had to spread the lower arm out to fit the eye into the arm but it was no biggie. JDM hondas seem to outnumber NZDM hondas like 50-1 here. __________________ www.eafw.co.nz EF7 CRX Turbo tracker EJ7 H2B Coupe streeter

18th July 2008, 03:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
Hayce Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,035 Location: Hamilton	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. Haha umm yea preggers got 2 hours sleep last night, I started this entire day off on the wrong foot. Not to worry I have regained my cool, beer time yo! __________________ ....................................EK molester!..................gtrefinishers

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Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,965 Location: Tauranga	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. doot doot just summed up why this ITR LCA thing doesn't really matter for us. I mean we could use a EG or DC LCA and it would be the same, EYE type for us. EXCEPT on NZ new or JDM EJ1 coupe is not eye

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nemesisteg Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,944 Location: Cambridge	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. you can flame as much as you like- your still a cock dam e-thugs

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americ_ian Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,938 Location: Hamilton	Re: so you want ITR rear lower control arms. hayces long life goal is to be ultimate mega fighter flamer guy champion.. __________________ Ex D16a Ex b16a, ex b18cr, ex h22a turbo, ex h2b, ex k20a.... Current: F20c!!!!!! 12.8 @ 171.88 1.7 60ft!