Sway bar sizes

[Antz]

Sorry for the noob question but tried to google and lost patience with it.

What is the size of the front and rear sway bar for a DC2 and more sepcificlly a NZDM one (1994)? (Don't have a gauge to measure either.)

When upgrading to a type R sway bar there seems to be a number of different sizes, any comments regarding which are better? fit, ride performance and strain on sub frame?

Do you upgrade the front sway bar as well?

appreciate the help

[jason_law]

front is same as 96 spec type r..but i forgot how many mm....98 spec is 1mm larger
rear in vtir/si is 14mm when 96 spec is 22 and 98 is one mm larger i think...
for me, i just get the whiteline 19mm rear bar..
cos the type r one u need to modify the subframe to fit....and i m not 100% sure what i m doing..so, dont want to take the risk for that expensive repair if the rear subframe tear off

[Antz]

Cheers for that, just the info I needed

[toda]

dc2 bugeye/flush nz new and jdm 1993-2000..
front 24mm rear 14mm

dc2r 1996-1997 jdm
front 24mm rear 22mm

dc2r 1998-2000 jdm
front 25mm rear 23mm

NZ NEW dc2r 2000
front 24 mm rear 22mm

eg6 jdm manual
front 24mm rear 14mm

eg6 auto
front 21mm rear 14mm

ek4
front 26mm rear 14mm

ek9 1997-2000
front 26mm rear 22mm

i had owned pretty much all of the abov, i could be wrong on some cases... had too many cars

[4age20v]

Originally Posted by toda

dc2 bugeye/flush nz new and jdm 1993-2000..
front 24mm rear 14mm

dc2r 1996-1997 jdm
front 24mm rear 22mm

dc2r 1998-2000 jdm
front 25mm rear 23mm

NZ NEW dc2r 2000
front 24 mm rear 22mm

eg6 jdm manual
front 24mm rear 14mm

eg6 auto
front 21mm rear 14mm

ek4
front 26mm rear 14mm

ek9 1997-2000
front 26mm rear 22mm

i had owned pretty much all of the abov, i could be wrong on some cases... had too many cars

1998 - 2000

rear should be 22mm

[Thank God 4 Vtec]

Nope '98-'00 are definately 23mm..

[toda]

do u mean jdm 1998 -2000 itr???
1996 spec
Used JDM DC2 Integra Type R 96 Spec Rear Sway Bar 22mm
1998 spec
Used JDM DC2 Integra Type R 98 Spec Rear Sway Bar 23mm

[hybrid_H]

are u sure ek4 and ek9 front sway bar are the same colin? i was told theyre different

[toda]

im not 100% sure on that one, i just copy and paste from another site lol
it could diff after all

[mr.sky]

Originally Posted by jason_law

front is same as 96 spec type r..but i forgot how many mm....98 spec is 1mm larger
rear in vtir/si is 14mm when 96 spec is 22 and 98 is one mm larger i think...
for me, i just get the whiteline 19mm rear bar..
cos the type r one u need to modify the subframe to fit....and i m not 100% sure what i m doing..so, dont want to take the risk for that expensive repair if the rear subframe tear off

Dude the whiteline swaybar is probably MORE likely to tear your subframe as its a solid bar

[dazznz]

Originally Posted by hybrid_H

are u sure ek4 and ek9 front sway bar are the same colin? i was told theyre different

Yep they are the same. Had to measure them the other day when we put an ek4 subframe in Tim's ek9. Was the same size.

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by mr.sky

Dude the whiteline swaybar is probably MORE likely to tear your subframe as its a solid bar

umm no, the whiteline swaybar is made to not ripout the subframe....

[tarmac-]

I cant answer your question directly, however I can say I installed a whiteline adjusty sway bar in my R33 and it was possibly the best handling mod ive done. Cost around 250ish, can be adjusted to your liking.

[Coupe-R]

thats interesting about eg6 manual and auto has different handling package??

bet a few didn't know that the front bar was thinner cause i didn't!

[jason_law]

Originally Posted by BTLF3D

umm no, the whiteline swaybar is made to not ripout the subframe....

i just get it installed today....the feeling on the small corner is totally different....even now i just with standard type r shock+spring...the handling is better than the tananbe spring i have while ago....
for subframe problem....i m not sure..as BTLF3D said...it is designed for this subframe...and the diameter is not that big..so, hopefullyy dont have any problem

[mr.sky]

Originally Posted by BTLF3D

umm no, the whiteline swaybar is made to not ripout the subframe....

How? its still a metal bar. Stiffer bar for less roll = more stress on other stuff. Even whiteline themselves recommend subframe reinforcement.

Why would you use an ASR subframe reinforcement kit if you didn't need to?

Not having a dig, just wondering how the bars design reduces the stress on the subframe.

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by mr.sky

How? its still a metal bar. Stiffer bar for less roll = more stress on other stuff. Even whiteline themselves recommend subframe reinforcement.

Why would you use an ASR subframe reinforcement kit if you didn't need to?

Not having a dig, just wondering how the bars design reduces the stress on the subframe.

hence why the bar is only 19mm
i used a ASR brace because i use a type r swaybar...

[EVLTEK FBI AKL]

thickness of sway bar is not the be all and end all - its to do with the regidity of the material.

I sold a set of whiteline bars to a mate of mine with an R32 GTR. they were the same thickness and stock but weighed around twice as much and were WAY more stiff.

if you have very hard suspension then the subframe reinforcement is less important as there is less roll....in a "street" setup - some reinforcement is very important.

I have some Mfactory rear bars coming 19mm - very rigid and complement the std front sway bar perfectly. They come complete with their own subframe kit etc

[mr.sky]

Originally Posted by BTLF3D

hence why the bar is only 19mm
i used a ASR brace because i use a type r swaybar...

I know its only 19mm but what im saying is its probably STIFFER (cue stiff jokes) than the 22mm ITR bar which is hollow is it not?

[haimsadia]

are the itr hollow?? the one that i bought ( 98spec dont know what is the difference...) is heavy as... i would seriously doubt the fact that it is hollow... but hey... i might be wrong too...

[blizard]

Originally Posted by mr.sky

I know its only 19mm but what im saying is its probably STIFFER (cue stiff jokes) than the 22mm ITR bar which is hollow is it not?

You should find out today

But, yeah, not hollow.

[jason_law]

Originally Posted by EVLTEK FBI AKL

thickness of sway bar is not the be all and end all - its to do with the regidity of the material.

I sold a set of whiteline bars to a mate of mine with an R32 GTR. they were the same thickness and stock but weighed around twice as much and were WAY more stiff.

if you have very hard suspension then the subframe reinforcement is less important as there is less roll....in a "street" setup - some reinforcement is very important.

I have some Mfactory rear bars coming 19mm - very rigid and complement the std front sway bar perfectly. They come complete with their own subframe kit etc

now, i start to worry about my setup done yesterday...

[Coupe-R]

Hey, everyone is getting hung up on stiffer bar=must rip out subframe.

Check out where the whiteline bar mounts of the subframe compared to an ITR bar. Totally different Bar design where they mount on the subframe.

ITR bar has different D bracket positions and the subframe isn't double skinned if you put a DC2R bar on a non R subframe.
Therefore subframe tearout especially with soft springs and ITR rear bar with no reinforcement.

Now the whiteline 19mm one mounts in the stock EG6/DC2 location and has the reinforcement brackets there as factory. Not as tough as aftermarket reinforcement however its not going to rip out, (unless maybe you run stock height and spring rates and load the car up with heaps of weight and go offroading?)

Hope that clears something up.

[jason_law]

Originally Posted by Coupe-R

Hey, everyone is getting hung up on stiffer bar=must rip out subframe.

Check out where the whiteline bar mounts of the subframe compared to an ITR bar. Totally different Bar design where they mount on the subframe.

ITR bar has different D bracket positions and the subframe isn't double skinned if you put a DC2R bar on a non R subframe.
Therefore subframe tearout especially with soft springs and ITR rear bar with no reinforcement.

Now the whiteline 19mm one mounts in the stock EG6/DC2 location and has the reinforcement brackets there as factory. Not as tough as aftermarket reinforcement however its not going to rip out, (unless maybe you run stock height and spring rates and load the car up with heaps of weight and go offroading?)

Hope that clears something up.

but the second hand whiteline bar i got just mounting to stock brucket+no reinforce kit included.....also, i m running stock itr suspension at the momnet....seems i m in the rise list...

[Horny_Devil]

a sway bar is essentually a 3rd spring on the rear of ur car

my tanabe 20mm sway bar is 230% stiffer than a 22mm rear one from a dc2r