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| Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) | EF9 Camber problem Just been for a cert, failed on being too low (how gay) and too much camber on front wheels, obviously the simple solution is finding a camber kit for an ef and fitting it then align and boom cert sorted. I have been shown by a suspension technician that a cheaper and more effective way of adjusting the camber in the front of a honda is too slot the holes at the back of the top arms were the main bolt goes through the wishbone piece of the arm, therefore making it adjustable. I realise the steel is kinda thin there so strength may be an issue but does anyone else run this setup or see any issues with it?
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Location: Pukekohe | Re: EF9 Camber problem Thats what i did for the race car but i went through heaps of advice from engineers etc. Then once it was aligned perfectly it was welded so it can never be adjusted again (ie slip). It was alot harder then i thought to do and you dont just slot a straight line, you have to do a perfect curve which was made after alot of thinking and research etc. Not an easy task but if you're an engineer or have access to some people that are in the know then you could give it a go. Why dont you just raise the car up to eliminate the camber which then solve 2 problems with you getting a cert?
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| Team NZH: Mod 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) | Re: EF9 Camber problem too low? how low is the car? got pic? I'm going to have to cert my EF9 soon.
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| Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2002
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Location: Auckland | Re: EF9 Camber problem Why not just get the Ingalls kit? Sounds like a lot of effort to go to/time off the road etc when you can a ready made kit off the shelf that will solve your problem. I had one on my EF9, went in sweet and was easily adjustable (not that i did it ).Also, if you crash your car, maybe even minorly, you may have to go through the hassel of getting another arm altered??? |
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| Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Aug 2003
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Location: Pukekohe | Re: EF9 Camber problem Quote:
Very true. I didn't realise you could easily get hold of EF front camber kits. What are the prices like on the Ingalls these days? I remember when i checked them out 5 or so years ago they were pretty damn expensive.
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Location: Upper Hutt | Re: EF9 Camber problem Skunk2 Skunk2 Camber Kits - Fortyone Automotive pretty sure mac has EF items in stock, but best to ask |
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Location: Upper Hutt | Re: EF9 Camber problem x2 for pics of sacked EF pls
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) | Re: EF9 Camber problem Who was certing it? I thought you could be pretty much as low as you liked (within reason of course) as long as the suspension maintained sufficient travel!
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Location: Auckland | Re: EF9 Camber problem I got mine a few years ago when i owned an EF9 and i didnt htink it was that expensive (on student wages etc). Defintely meant i didint have to muck around with camber wear etc. |
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| Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! | Re: EF9 Camber problem thats correct but it also has to be safe in the eyes of the certifier, so too much camber means less rubber contact with the road which isnt safe
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| Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) | Re: EF9 Camber problem will get picz for you shortly, it aint low in my opinion so dont get too excited lol, ok so anyone got a price for the ingalls ef camber kit? its only got 3 degrees camber, hardly excessive i thought, certifier tryed to tell me its on the bump stops (its not even close!) and the front ball joints are pivoted beyond there normal travel, but under closer inspection by myself they arent excessive.ad results? So anyone else tryed my idea in anything else and had good / b Marty jones was the certifier
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| Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) | Re: EF9 Camber problem 41 dont have them in stock till end of the month, cant wait that long. and no i dont want to get it certed hi as a giraffes arsehole, that would eliminate the point of having adjustablez in the first place
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| Team NZH: Mod 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) | Re: EF9 Camber problem that isn't too low. !!!?!?!! if that is too low, I will never be able to get mine certed!!! is that cert guy on crack or what? the camber doesn't look too bad?
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| Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Aug 2007
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Location: Hawera | Re: EF9 Camber problem do thay really fail you for you have to much camber?iv got a ef5 sedan that used to be 4wd now converted to fwd and there is alot like / that at the rear with a empty car.were did you go to get a cert so i can avoid them.lol |
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| Senior Member 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Apr 2006
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Location: Auckland | Re: EF9 Camber problem seems the guy might just be a hater.....The ball joint angles he's probably refering too is most likely your tie rod ends not your actual ball joints....all hondas do it tho, but most cert guys dont want them to angle past horizontal. |
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Location: Upper Hutt | Re: EF9 Camber problem Be good to see your car Tristan sam
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) | Re: EF9 Camber problem fuck thats nothing...
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| Team NZH: Mod 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) | Re: EF9 Camber problem I didnt have mine that low and killed my front tyres within 4 months Camber on EF9's are weird. My DA6 is slammed hard and no camber probs. EF9 not even low and has issues. I'm just keeping the 9 higher haha |
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| Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Nov 2003
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Location: Tauranga | Re: EF9 Camber problem Here's a pic of my EF9 which is at exactly cert height, it measeure 285mm at the front and 270mm at the rear (this is whats on the cert plate, centre of the wheel to the guard), I have 2.5 degrees camber all round an the cert guy had no problems with it, Also runs a ingalls front camber kit, Try speedfactor in tauranga, they stock them. ![]() |
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| Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002
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Location: Tauranga | Re: EF9 Camber problem Quote:
They camber more than EG/DC. EF/DA easily gets way past 3 degrees negative when slammed. EG sits around 2-2.5 at a low height. They are not as bad for it, | |
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) | Re: EF9 Camber problem Quote:
his DA6 doesnt have any camber problems cause it doesnt leave the garage. it cant even get out of the driveway..lol.
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