Toyo R888 vs Direzza 03G?

[BTLF3D]

i am probly switching to 205-50-15's on my car and was going to get R888's because they are quite cheap (180each) but i was thinking maybe i should spend a bit more and get a better tyre (logan suggested this too :wink: ) so what im wondering is, has anyone used the r888 and the 03g? if so which one was better? time it took to heat up? wet grip?

thats all

[doo0T!doo0T!]

Originally Posted by BTLF3D

i am probly switching to 205-50-15's on my car and was going to get R888's because they are quite cheap (180each) but i was thinking maybe i should spend a bit more and get a better tyre (logan suggested this too :wink: ) so what im wondering is, has anyone used the r888 and the 03g? if so which one was better? time it took to heat up? wet grip?

thats all

The R888 is good for the price but in my experience not a very well perfroming tyre.
I run R888 GG's and they are way too hard for a light car like mine, even after a completely merciless beating they never get really sticky like race rubber should.
At nimm I was scooping rubber off Timmi's tyres with my finger like hot toffee, there is no way in hell the R888's get close to that sort of temp or stickyness inside 5-6 laps.
The GG comppound which most people have is an enduro tyre so it's probably not supposed to, maybe a G if you could get hold of it would be better.

I used to have the Toyo Proxes/Trampio catalogue and user guide but I cant find it, try a google.

[Non Vtec]

I run the R888's, and had the rubber sticky and hot as at the NIMM, even had peices where it had melted and rolled over the rest of the tyres.. I thought they held on really well.. but havent been on anything else yet..

[rallyprelude]

I have used the 888,s and they took half a rally to come right, they take a lot of bedding in but ounce they were bedded in the perform really well and are quite good in the wet. They work average when cold. They are a well priced tyre and do perform quite well and they last very well so are a great bang for buck tyre but Id say the Dunlops would be a better tyre but the wont last anywhere as long and a bit more expensive.
I have switched to Kumho (dont know the model but have the WRC type tread pattern) and these I believe are 95 per cent as good as the dunlops in the wet and the dry and are a similar price to the 888,s and they last very well and work excellent from cold, my results speak for themselves although all my racing is on closed roads not on the circuit but bang for buck and quality id go Kumho.

[Ali]

I thought the R888's were fairly decent, stuck to the road at nimm good but also the wear on them was mint after 5 sessions. I cant really compare them to other semi's as ive only tried the R888's. Might try different tyres at manfield see whats avaliable.

[doo0T!doo0T!]

At chelles last track day I drove my tires all day then had a fling in Randall's EF and I found his tyres to be a lot stickier than mine after the same amount of driving.
I think he is running dunlops not sure if they are 03g's but they seemed like a far superior tyre to my R888's.

The treadware on the R888's is excellent they are lasting exceptionally but thats not really what I expect out of a compettition tyre.

Perhaps in an endurance race they would build up a bit more residual heat and perform better. I just dont think they are much good for short sprint work. Well the GG compound anyway.

[the_chad]

What compounds are the R888's available in? And whats the approx pricing for each size?

[doo0T!doo0T!]

Ah here it is... this will answer your questions http://www.mmsport.com.au/download.php?fid=23

GG is the hardest compound.
I'd like to have a drive on SG's looks like they shit all over the GG's for the sort of track work my car will be doing.

Originally Posted by Non Vtec

I run the R888's, and had the rubber sticky and hot as at the NIMM, even had peices where it had melted and rolled over the rest of the tyres.. I thought they held on really well.. but havent been on anything else yet..

Any idea what compound they are? because mine never do that and at NIMM I beat on mine hard and all that happened was a whole lot of circumferential cuts from wheelspin, none of that piling up of rubber that everyone else seemed to be getting.

[Coupe-R]

how old are your tyres?

I have toyo RA1 semi slicks, however I think the dunlop targa tyres will be better still. I am trying these out very soon

Hayden you were running such a wide tyre on 6.5-7" rims Made em look like 4 black beach balls 8) Car was going well all the same

[nzcivicracer]

Originally Posted by doo0T!doo0T!

At chelles last track day I drove my tires all day then had a fling in Randall's EF and I found his tyres to be a lot stickier than mine after the same amount of driving.
I think he is running dunlops not sure if they are 03g's but they seemed like a far superior tyre to my R888's.

Yeah I run Bridgestone RE540S (http://www.bridgestone.co.jp/tire/po...40s/index.html) on the track, real nice tire. They handle well wet or dry!! Unbelieveable grip in the wet!

Your tires seem alright Mike, although I never really leaned on them hard.

I had a quick go on a set of used Dunlop 02G's (I think, could have been 03G's) ex Targa, they seemed pretty good also.

Yokohama might be another option, the A048, maybe the A032R?

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by Coupe-R

how old are your tyres?

I have toyo RA1 semi slicks, however I think the dunlop targa tyres will be better still. I am trying these out very soon

Hayden you were running such a wide tyre on 6.5-7" rims Made em look like 4 black beach balls 8) Car was going well all the same

so it looks like the 03g will be better for a bit more $$, maybe i will try/test them out 8)
Sam, yea i run 225 on a 7" rim, im sure this could also be something to do with my bodyroll problem...
Hopefully new tyres and susp will sort the car out!

[Coupe-R]

hehe yep 225 should really be 7.5 or even 8" wide. Strange you don't get any front rub with 225's. I get a little rub with 205's on a 35 offset quite low tho

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by Coupe-R

hehe yep 225 should really be 7.5 or even 8" wide. Strange you don't get any front rub with 225's. I get a little rub with 205's on a 35 offset quite low tho

i do get rub im thinking of keeping 225 ra1's on the front and go for 205 on the rear to help with the understeer...?

[Coupe-R]

Think that red DC2 SS2000 car ran about a 215 front and 205 rear. Also running on 16's
Slicks aren't measured like that tho but thats about what they are.

You need to dial out understeer using struts and sway bars

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by Coupe-R

Think that red DC2 SS2000 car ran about a 215 front and 205 rear. Also running on 16's
Slicks aren't measured like that tho but thats about what they are.

You need to dial out understeer using struts and sway bars

yeah, which is what i am trying to do with harder springs, but also smaller tyres in the rear helps too

[vtec_junky]

Originally Posted by BTLF3D

yeah, which is what i am trying to do with harder springs, but also smaller tyres in the rear helps too

i thought it was bigger diameter tires on the rear?

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by vtec_junky

i thought it was bigger diameter tires on the rear?

hmm, its pretty simple, you think 225 grip on the front compared to 205 grip on the rear... you have 20mm less tyre on the road in the rear.

[fiasco]

From talking to friend of mine a while back about this he reckons the r888's stand up to the Dunlops in handling until you go to the Dunlop soft compound then Dunlops win. Toyo's are pretty good all rounder.
Slicks also take some time to get heat into them by the way so this is not isolated to one model of tyre.

[Track Whore]

The dunlop O3G pawns any other semi slick tyre on the market IMO.

Get them you will love it and crank some more negative on that orange of yours.

[nzcivicracer]

Originally Posted by Track Whore

The dunlop O3G pawns any other semi slick tyre on the market IMO.

Has anyone seen a semi slick tire test? THey do them for high performance road tires, just wonder if they do the same for track tires?

Dunlop O3G's better than the Bridgestone Potenza RE55S?

[blizard]

Originally Posted by Track Whore

The dunlop O3G pawns any other semi slick tyre on the market IMO.

Have you tried Potenza RE540S or the new RE55S?

I found the RE540S definitely better than 02G but I haven't tried 03G.

[b18c1]

has any one thought of tyre pressures? if your running a low psi your tyres arnt creating enough friction which will rob you of tyre temp, i used to race go-karts and a race can be won or lost on a matter of 2-3psi difference. i would ask the guys that had their tyres hot and that "melted look" and ask about their pressures you maybe suprised! also on your warm up lap REALLY work your tyres!! you don't see the v8s driving straight under saftey car

[ek9pwr]

ive tried re540s bridgestones they were too hard off nick chesters evo now using dunlop o3g good tyre just need more power im using 215 45 17

[PizzaBoy]

Having tried Toyo R888 and Dunlop D02G recently, I'd rate the dunlops higher than the toyo's. And I'm assuming the 03G's are even better again!

Oh yeah, hayden if you want some 205/50/15 R888's mine are for sale

[americ_ian]

you guys are getting pwned with the old threads

but yes, love the feel of the 02g and 03gs!