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Old 6th July 2007, 09:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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what shocks??

hi guys

i did a search on shock recommendations but couldn't find anything of use so i decided to start up my own thread.

Ive got neuspped race springs in my '94 DC2 integra and im still on the original shocks at 144000kms.
They are starting to show some wear as you'd expect lol.

So now im in the market for a new set of shocks.

Budget is $800 for the set.

Anybody have any hookups for shocks? ie can get cost or trade prices, etc.

I would really like a set of kyb agx's but they are like $830 a set from repco COST.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

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Old 6th July 2007, 09:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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sell your spriongs and get a set of coilovers.
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Old 6th July 2007, 09:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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sell your spriongs and get a set of coilovers.
say i sold my springs for $300 that would leave me with $1100 for a set of coilovers.

i really dont think id be able to get a decent set of coilovers for that apart from D2's which from what ive heard are not good at all.

maybe im wrong but ive heard that neuspeeds and good shocks are a mint handling setup?
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Old 6th July 2007, 10:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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...or Daiyama coilovers. But if you can't even get kybs for $800 you wont be able to get anything else decnet new for that money. Either sell you springs and get the daiyamas or D2s, or save a bit more, do it properly the first time and get some konis or bilsteins.
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Old 6th July 2007, 10:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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...or Daiyama coilovers. But if you can't even get kybs for $800 you wont be able to get anything else decnet new for that money. Either sell you springs and get the daiyamas or D2s, or save a bit more, do it properly the first time and get some konis or bilsteins.
the $830 cost for the kyb agx's are their top spec race shocks. standard kyb replacements are $280 a set cost. so a bit of a difference there.

are Daiyama coilovers good? havent really heard much about them although i have seen a few sets for sale on here.

Which are the better Daiyama ones? Was just looking on the 41 website and all of their coilovers look about the same price??

any other recommendations or options?

cheers
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Old 6th July 2007, 10:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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a good set of shocks and proper race springs (none of this lowering spring crap) will perform better than a cheap set of coilovers
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Old 6th July 2007, 10:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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a good set of shocks and proper race springs (none of this lowering spring crap) will perform better than a cheap set of coilovers
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Old 6th July 2007, 11:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Save $30 more. Sorted. Assuming you can get the AGXs at cost price.
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Old 6th July 2007, 12:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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a good set of shocks and proper race springs (none of this lowering spring crap) will perform better than a cheap set of coilovers
dont u recomend jamex?
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a good set of shocks and proper race springs (none of this lowering spring crap) will perform better than a cheap set of coilovers
dont u recomend jamex?
huh ??? no.........i dont push anything on anyone

obviously you havnt read the sticky at the top of the page :wink:

http://nzhondas.com/phpBB2/aftermark...-vtu66085.html

for anyone seriously looking at track work I wouldnt particularly reccomend any generic lowering spring.

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Old 6th July 2007, 04:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Quote:
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...or Daiyama coilovers. But if you can't even get kybs for $800 you wont be able to get anything else decnet new for that money. Either sell you springs and get the daiyamas or D2s, or save a bit more, do it properly the first time and get some konis or bilsteins.
the $830 cost for the kyb agx's are their top spec race shocks. standard kyb replacements are $280 a set cost. so a bit of a difference there.

are Daiyama coilovers good? havent really heard much about them although i have seen a few sets for sale on here.

Which are the better Daiyama ones? Was just looking on the 41 website and all of their coilovers look about the same price??

any other recommendations or options?

cheers
make sure the price $280 and $830 are talking about set of 4 instead of 2.......seems very cheap if it is set of 4
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Old 6th July 2007, 04:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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im just about to get some Daiyamas, i will let you know what i think of them after next saturday ( will be testing them at a trackday...)
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Old 6th July 2007, 05:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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a good set of shocks and proper race springs (none of this lowering spring crap) will perform better than a cheap set of coilovers
Dude... they are Neuspeed Race - not Jamex Superlows or some shit like that. A lot of race cars use Neuspeed... they are a good spring. FFS.

I am using Neuspeed Race on KYB Excel G. Seem ok, but non-adjustable, and are probably a little too soft for the spring.
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a good set of shocks and proper race springs (none of this lowering spring crap) will perform better than a cheap set of coilovers
Dude... they are Neuspeed Race - not Jamex Superlows or some shit like that. A lot of race cars use Neuspeed... they are a good spring. FFS.
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hard day chris ???

thats what he was saying, that a good set of springs (ie: neuspeed) with good shocks would be far better than buying a set of dirty d2's
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Old 6th July 2007, 07:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yea, hard day every day damn hospo work. Have the night off though.

O... misread that. Yea, Neuspeed Race blew my standard shocks up within a day of using them. And even my Excel G are leaking now, so will be replaced under warranty, and possibly consider upgrading to a set of Koni Yellow. I wouldn't think about using standard shocks with any aftermarket spring to be honest... and even if you get an aftermarket shock, look seriously at shortening it.
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Old 11th July 2007, 01:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i was talking to the guy who supplies shocks to repco today (stocks i think?) and he was saying about people putting for example top spec kyb agx adjustable shocks in the front and just the decent kyb's in the back.

Is this a good idea or would it be better to just have the really good shocks such as agx's or bilsteins all round?

at the moment im still deciding whether to get a full set of either agx's or bilsteins, or agx's in the front or the decent kyb's in the rear?

what you guys think?

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Old 11th July 2007, 08:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I would've thought that if the shocks had gone through any significant design process they would work best if they're used as a set i.e. the front and rear shocks would compliment each other?

If you can afford a full set of bilstein's I would say go with that. If anything it should at least be easier to sell later on than as a mix of brands.
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