Nolathane rear trailing arm bushes and oversteer

beeker · 27th June 2007, 10:43 AM

Who reakons that harder nolathane trailing arm bushes (front big round ones) will invoke a 'snapier' oversteer in the DC2 R.

I'm considering returning these to standard factory bushes for targa style driving.

If it was track only, i would leave them in.

Thoughts ?

Hayce · 27th June 2007, 10:53 AM

Have you looked into the spherical type RTA bushes? BigAl seems to use them (according to an HT thread I spied him in)

Search on HT, users name is kiwi too. Think they go for $265 USD.

xsiv · 27th June 2007, 11:00 AM

i use solid ones, and yes i would say thay are more agressive then the std ones

Logger · 27th June 2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayce

Have you looked into the spherical type RTA bushes? BigAl seems to use them (according to an HT thread I spied him in)

Search on HT, users name is kiwi too. Think they go for $265 USD.

Like this?

SK1TZ- EF · 27th June 2007, 11:41 AM

plus they look sooo sooo JDM 8)

i have been looking into what i can do aswell, to make a go kart

Hayce · 27th June 2007, 01:11 PM

logger: yeah like that.

Coupe-R · 27th June 2007, 01:50 PM

Nolthane one's aren't that hard, hmm I wouln't have thought a factory R witth dunlop targa tyres, cage and a nolathan trailing arms would be very rear happy?

What suspension are you using, what shocks and spring rates?

I find my car only gets rear happy if I brake too deep or around a corner.

crx_bob · 27th June 2007, 03:12 PM

It's shouldn't have made it that tail happy I would be getting the wheel alignment checked especially if you have put the cage in since then, if a cage is badly welded it can cause problems with the chassis alignment.
Might be way off here though.

americ_ian · 27th June 2007, 04:16 PM

wen they are installed wrong they create oversteer

ie if they arnt pressed in far enuf, u get 7mm-10mm toe in 8O

and yes i drift'd all day!

Horny_Devil · 27th June 2007, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by americ_ian

wen they are installed wrong they create oversteer

ie if they arnt pressed in far enuf, u get 7mm-10mm toe in 8O

and yes i drift'd all day!

ian knows from experience

americ_ian · 27th June 2007, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by americ_ian

wen they are installed wrong they create oversteer

ie if they arnt pressed in far enuf, u get 7mm-10mm toe in 8O

and yes i drift'd all day!

ian knows from experience

note: i plan to learn from that experiance

and hopefuly never endure that again

[QUIKdc2] · 29th June 2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by americ_ian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by americ_ian

wen they are installed wrong they create oversteer

ie if they arnt pressed in far enuf, u get 7mm-10mm toe in 8O

and yes i drift'd all day!

ian knows from experience

note: i plan to learn from that experiance

and hopefuly never endure that again

Drifting where is at y0!!!!1!

beeker · 2nd July 2007, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coupe-R

Nolthane one's aren't that hard, hmm I wouln't have thought a factory R witth dunlop targa tyres, cage and a nolathan trailing arms would be very rear happy?

What suspension are you using, what shocks and spring rates?

I find my car only gets rear happy if I brake too deep or around a corner.

Alignment is fine, and gets a new one prior to any major event. Springs are 400 in the front and 250 in the back. rear and front sway bars are standard.

I'm just trying to reduce the "snap oversteer" that this car has, but it may just be ITR inherient.

Coupe-R · 6th July 2007, 12:03 PM

I have 500lb front and 225lb rear with the same rear sway bar but a 2mm smaller front on a EJ1 civic. I have found it will get snap over steer if you lift off throttle quickly or weight shift far too much in a corner.

Also any light braking mid corner makes oversteer on my setup.

WHat shocks do you have, enough droop in the rear, or is it always on three.

Check your wheel alignment settings, maybe set 0 toe all round and check camber

27th June 2007, 10:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
beeker Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 542 Location: Auckland	Nolathane rear trailing arm bushes and oversteer Who reakons that harder nolathane trailing arm bushes (front big round ones) will invoke a 'snapier' oversteer in the DC2 R. I'm considering returning these to standard factory bushes for targa style driving. If it was track only, i would leave them in. Thoughts ? __________________ Ae86 Levin Targa Car RS4 Daily drive

27th June 2007, 10:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hayce Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,035 Location: Hamilton	Have you looked into the spherical type RTA bushes? BigAl seems to use them (according to an HT thread I spied him in) Search on HT, users name is kiwi too. Think they go for $265 USD. __________________ ....................................EK molester!..................gtrefinishers

27th June 2007, 11:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
xsiv Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,391 Location: Hamilton	i use solid ones, and yes i would say thay are more agressive then the std ones __________________ xsiv da6 313kw b16a

27th June 2007, 11:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
SK1TZ- EF Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,568 Location: Upper Hutt	plus they look sooo sooo JDM 8) i have been looking into what i can do aswell, to make a go kart __________________ NEW JOB!--> www.blackwoodspaykels.co.nz Big thanks to all who have helped with muscle and info, you all know who ya are! WSC f0 LyF

27th June 2007, 01:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hayce Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,035 Location: Hamilton	logger: yeah like that. __________________ ....................................EK molester!..................gtrefinishers

27th June 2007, 01:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,965 Location: Tauranga	Nolthane one's aren't that hard, hmm I wouln't have thought a factory R witth dunlop targa tyres, cage and a nolathan trailing arms would be very rear happy? What suspension are you using, what shocks and spring rates? I find my car only gets rear happy if I brake too deep or around a corner.

27th June 2007, 03:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
crx_bob Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,986 Location: Rangiora	It's shouldn't have made it that tail happy I would be getting the wheel alignment checked especially if you have put the cage in since then, if a cage is badly welded it can cause problems with the chassis alignment. Might be way off here though.

27th June 2007, 04:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
americ_ian Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,938 Location: Hamilton	wen they are installed wrong they create oversteer ie if they arnt pressed in far enuf, u get 7mm-10mm toe in 8O and yes i drift'd all day! __________________ Ex D16a Ex b16a, ex b18cr, ex h22a turbo, ex h2b, ex k20a.... Current: F20c!!!!!! 12.8 @ 171.88 1.7 60ft!

6th July 2007, 12:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,965 Location: Tauranga	I have 500lb front and 225lb rear with the same rear sway bar but a 2mm smaller front on a EJ1 civic. I have found it will get snap over steer if you lift off throttle quickly or weight shift far too much in a corner. Also any light braking mid corner makes oversteer on my setup. WHat shocks do you have, enough droop in the rear, or is it always on three. Check your wheel alignment settings, maybe set 0 toe all round and check camber

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