DC2 non type r handling help

brenth · 23rd June 2007, 06:15 PM

hi guys

before you read this. yes i have searched and done a bit of research but im just wanting specifics for my car.

ive got a 1994 integra dc2 "bugeye" si vtec and ive entered myself for the NIMM in november. At the moment it has some dobi lowering springs but thats about it. It handles alright but would like to stiffen up the chassis a bit.

So i am looking at getting new front and rear sway bars and maybe also a rear strut bar in the future.

Can i use the itr 22mm rear sway bar or does it require "garage works"

mounting brackets?

what about front sway bar? itr?

any other bars or braces i should be looking at?
cheers

brent

brenth · 24th June 2007, 09:53 PM

come on guys need some help here 8)

EVLTEK FBI AKL · 24th June 2007, 09:56 PM

Change your springs. Dobi are very soft and the car will never handle well with them.

Some good shocks and springs or coilovers - front and rear strut brace, and an integra type R rear sway bar.

That will be about as good as you can get without going nuts.

DrRubber · 24th June 2007, 10:19 PM

agreed, dobi may sack your car but the handling is poo due to the very soft sping.

brenth · 25th June 2007, 07:59 AM

oh ok knew that dobi's werent the greatest but didnt think they were that bad. maybe its time for sum neuspeed races 8)

and do the type r rear swaybars bolt straight up or a bit of custom work?

what about front type r swaybar?

cheers

DrRubber · 25th June 2007, 08:55 AM

you may find you have to drill some holes......not sure just thought I had read that somewhere, Either way wont be hard i wouldnt think

jason_law · 25th June 2007, 10:22 PM

try to get somew itr shock.......i have tananbe spring with standard shock b4...today, i change the itr shock.....notice it's more firm

brenth · 25th June 2007, 11:07 PM

does a front itr sway bar fit to a non r dc2 with or without modification?

cheers

chuckles2 · 25th June 2007, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brenth49

does a front itr sway bar fit to a non r dc2 with or without modification?

cheers

front sway bars are the same ITR is no better, rear is much better tho, you should get better shocks and camber ktis etc before sway bars tho IMO

brenth · 25th June 2007, 11:55 PM

at the moment i dont have the cash for new shocks so getting some neuspeed races tomorrow and was thinking about the itr sway bar as its a cheap and effective upgrade.

DrRubber · 26th June 2007, 06:02 AM

new springs are great but if your shocks are poo's then its not worth installing until you can afford some shocks IMO........

your shock is what controls the spring....stops you from bouncing of the road as it were, so if your shocks are fucked then you may as well just roll around on bumpstops as you will bounce around

Buy the springs, but save up and buy some shocks before you install them......your mother will love you for it :wink:

Horny_Devil · 26th June 2007, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badcf4

new springs are great but if your shocks are poo's then its not worth installing until you can afford some shocks IMO........

your shock is what controls the spring....stops you from bouncing of the road as it were, so if your shocks are fucked then you may as well just roll around on bumpstops as you will bounce around

Buy the springs, but save up and buy some shocks before you install them......your mother will love you for it :wink:

cause ull just end up blowing the shocks

DrRubber · 26th June 2007, 06:35 AM

^^^ yea that too 8)

jason_law · 26th June 2007, 08:17 AM

it's not good idea to install bigger rear sway bar without good shock...image on the corner, if the shock cant absorb the force of some bump.....if ur rear sway bar is bigger, it has more chance that ur car suddenly lose control or oversteering

s0cks · 26th June 2007, 08:50 AM

try get hold of some itr shocks maybe?

brenth · 30th June 2007, 10:08 AM

is a Subframe Reinforcement Kit what i need aswell as the itr sway bar to reinforce my chassis to fit it?

cheers

Edit: Please do not post links to local retailers who are not club sponsors

OhSoSlow · 1st July 2007, 02:44 PM

You will need to reinforce your subframe to fit the itr sway bar. You could just weld on a couple of stronger plates to mount the brackets though. I think Coupe-R has pictures of what he did to his subframe.. looks like the best idea.

I got that beaks kit, and what a nightmare, ended up having to weld up my subframe anyway!

23rd June 2007, 06:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
brenth Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,176 Location: Auckland	DC2 non type r handling help hi guys before you read this. yes i have searched and done a bit of research but im just wanting specifics for my car. ive got a 1994 integra dc2 "bugeye" si vtec and ive entered myself for the NIMM in november. At the moment it has some dobi lowering springs but thats about it. It handles alright but would like to stiffen up the chassis a bit. So i am looking at getting new front and rear sway bars and maybe also a rear strut bar in the future. Can i use the itr 22mm rear sway bar or does it require "garage works" mounting brackets? what about front sway bar? itr? any other bars or braces i should be looking at? cheers brent

24th June 2007, 09:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
EVLTEK FBI AKL Team NZH: Mod 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,658 Location: Waitakere	Change your springs. Dobi are very soft and the car will never handle well with them. Some good shocks and springs or coilovers - front and rear strut brace, and an integra type R rear sway bar. That will be about as good as you can get without going nuts. __________________ FBI Performance Auckland - 8283211 - sales@fbiperformance.co.nz DC2 Rolling Body for Sale - http://nzhondas.com/forum/vehicle-ex...ling-body.html

24th June 2007, 10:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
DrRubber Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,678 Location: Auckland	agreed, dobi may sack your car but the handling is poo due to the very soft sping. __________________ Why do I need to comment on Robbie failing.......robbie is the grand master of fail

25th June 2007, 08:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
DrRubber Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,678 Location: Auckland	you may find you have to drill some holes......not sure just thought I had read that somewhere, Either way wont be hard i wouldnt think __________________ Why do I need to comment on Robbie failing.......robbie is the grand master of fail

26th June 2007, 06:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
DrRubber Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,678 Location: Auckland	new springs are great but if your shocks are poo's then its not worth installing until you can afford some shocks IMO........ your shock is what controls the spring....stops you from bouncing of the road as it were, so if your shocks are fucked then you may as well just roll around on bumpstops as you will bounce around Buy the springs, but save up and buy some shocks before you install them......your mother will love you for it :wink: __________________ Why do I need to comment on Robbie failing.......robbie is the grand master of fail

24th June 2007, 09:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
brenth Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,176 Location: Auckland	come on guys need some help here 8)

25th June 2007, 07:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
brenth Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,176 Location: Auckland	oh ok knew that dobi's werent the greatest but didnt think they were that bad. maybe its time for sum neuspeed races 8) and do the type r rear swaybars bolt straight up or a bit of custom work? what about front type r swaybar? cheers

25th June 2007, 10:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
jason_law Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 784 Location: Auckland	try to get somew itr shock.......i have tananbe spring with standard shock b4...today, i change the itr shock.....notice it's more firm

25th June 2007, 11:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
brenth Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,176 Location: Auckland	does a front itr sway bar fit to a non r dc2 with or without modification? cheers

25th June 2007, 11:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
brenth Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,176 Location: Auckland	at the moment i dont have the cash for new shocks so getting some neuspeed races tomorrow and was thinking about the itr sway bar as its a cheap and effective upgrade.

26th June 2007, 06:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
DrRubber Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,678 Location: Auckland	^^^ yea that too 8) __________________ Why do I need to comment on Robbie failing.......robbie is the grand master of fail

26th June 2007, 08:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
jason_law Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 784 Location: Auckland	it's not good idea to install bigger rear sway bar without good shock...image on the corner, if the shock cant absorb the force of some bump.....if ur rear sway bar is bigger, it has more chance that ur car suddenly lose control or oversteering

26th June 2007, 08:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
s0cks Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 286 Location: Waiuku	try get hold of some itr shocks maybe?

30th June 2007, 10:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
brenth Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,176 Location: Auckland	is a Subframe Reinforcement Kit what i need aswell as the itr sway bar to reinforce my chassis to fit it? cheers Edit: Please do not post links to local retailers who are not club sponsors

1st July 2007, 02:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
OhSoSlow Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 777 Location: Auckland	You will need to reinforce your subframe to fit the itr sway bar. You could just weld on a couple of stronger plates to mount the brackets though. I think Coupe-R has pictures of what he did to his subframe.. looks like the best idea. I got that beaks kit, and what a nightmare, ended up having to weld up my subframe anyway!

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