Improving camber/castor on EK hatch?

[RallyEF]

Just wondering what have people done to improve the lack of front camber and castor on an EK3 hatch as the standard settings are not so great. Thanks.

[DrRubber]

I would imagine there is a generic type camber kit for them.......( Or buy coilovers with pillow balls)..as for castor do they have a castor rod ??? if they do it would obviously have no adjustment so Id get some spares and thread the life out of them so you can use them as an adjustable castor rod just like the front of a toyota van etc 8)

[dazznz]

I wouldnt imagine that you can ajust castor. I no that on a DC2 it is nearly impossible to do, and involves a shit load of work to do it. Camber and toe are a piece of piss to do.

[DrRubber]

never say never :wink: But yea ek no doubt dosnt have rods so it would be a mutt of a mission.....small correction could be made via a chassis "shuffle" but as far as adjusting for certan conditions etc youd probly have to have something made up (or slotted)

on the ef they have a castor rod which is not adjustable but could be made to be.

Buy an rx8 or mx5 if you want full adjustment

[americ_ian]

to add about 4-5* degrees positive castor on the EK swap the upper arms from left to right

to add camber get adjustable upper arms easiest way to do it

[DrRubber]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

to add about 4-5* degrees positive camber on the EK swap the upper arms from left to right

to add camber get adjustable upper arms easiest way to do it

the first one do you mean castor ??? or camber???

[americ_ian]

castor

[DrRubber]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

castor

that explains why you typed camber

True thats a good trick :thumbsup: however thats alot of castor to add.....would some applications suit that much positive castor ???

wouldnt think it too good for the track.......

[americ_ian]

ahh crap i did too!

wheres the edit button...

most racing application suit more castor...

more turn in more and tyre on the ground... been a simple trick for years

surprised you didnt know about that greg?

[DrRubber]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

ahh crap i did too!

wheres the edit button...

most racing application suit more castor...

more turn in more and tyre on the ground... been a simple trick for years

surprised you didnt know about that greg?

4-5 degrees seems alot tho I guess not then

[americ_ian]

nah

drifters run waaay more than that

[DrRubber]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

nah

drifters run waaay more than that

yea not to mention like 5 million degrees neg camber with the m4D tyre stretch

must suck for steering wheel returnability tho eh ??

[americ_ian]

yeah there is an increase in bump steer... but thats to be expected

[Coupe-R]

RWD cars are much different they will run ALOT more castor factory than a FWD honda.

I.E drift car will run 9-10deg castor

Race FWD EG will run 3-5 castor.

I no that on a DC2 it is nearly impossible to do, and involves a shit load of work to do it. Camber and toe are a piece of piss to do.

Its actually easy to add castor, pull the lower front LCA apart, add washers and a longer stud. Wallah up to 3degrees castor ontop of what u had. Or try swapping the arms, i dunno if this trick works EG and DC
I think stock castor is 1 degree.

[LOWDWN]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

to add about 4-5* degrees positive castor on the EK swap the upper arms from left to right

to add camber get adjustable upper arms easiest way to do it

i have this done to my ek,-2.6 camber(needs atention) but 4.2deg caster

[berman]

Originally Posted by badcf4

pillow balls

Double wishbone

[DrRubber]

Originally Posted by berman

Double wishbone

touche 8)

never worked on ek but yea shoulda guessed it would be the same as rest of honda clan ops:

[b16a2]

As ian said, if u want more castor, swap the top wishbones around, ie left to right, only way without extensively modifying suspension, or just get traction bars and pull the whole assembly forward, or push it back if your that way inclined

[Shadow Sol]

there are arms on the market with castor pins and camber adjustment - i dont know how will they work or what they cost - nolathane sell some...

[Hayce]

Found this due to a search for caster.

Bumping as theres aftermarket bushes available (for EK at least) that increase (or decrease) front caster by way of an offset bush center, mayeb someone cares.

[Coupe-R]

Yep whiteline make em.

If swapping the top arms doesn't totally screw up your bump steet then go for it.

As ian said, if u want more castor, swap the top wishbones around, ie left to right, only way without extensively modifying suspension, or just get traction bars and pull the whole assembly forward, or push it back if your that way inclined

On an EG/DC you don't have to extensive mod your suspension. As I said above it involved putting in a longer stud on the LCA and adding washers. Pretty dam easy!

[Hayce]

Box says fulcrum not whiteline, maybe rebrands perhaps. Theyre just a hard poly.

[Coupe-R]

They will be similar. They don't add much castor tho.

[Hayce]

The rears in this pic: