DC2R Suspension

[s0cks]

I'm looking to get a good suspension upgrade for my dc2r but I'm really clueless as what to be getting. I'd like height and dampener adjustment, and I'm not too fussed be it in the form of shocks + springs, or full coilovers.

I'd really like something that is going to be worthwhile. The ITR has incredible handling as it is, and I don't wanna slap some rubbish on it.

My only real thoughts at the moment were Bilstein shocks with Neuspeed springs. I have no idea which coilovers are good and which are not (there seems to be so many), but bear in mind I don't want to spend thousands and thousands.

Any help appreciated. Also, I have no idea when it comes to spring rates either... :/

[spooner]

Tein would be the go but are pretty pricey. Have heard good things about D2 coilovers and are good value for money.

[DrRubber]

tein would be the go but yea can be pricey unless you can find some good second hand ones.......d2 are ok.......they do the job anyway.......but theres heaps of different suspension out there and id look further into it before buying the likes of d2......search around on the net and look at a couple of the boys write ups on their new coilovers......might give you some more ideas......

[Mac]

Check out Kewee's thread in this very forum. They are for sale.

[s0cks]

Teins deffiently aren't cheap, but if its the price I have to pay! The Daiyama's look quality, but yet to see how they perform.

[Logger]

I've just been out driving in my Daiyama equipped EF (the Daiyamas that are for sale) and I must say for the dollars you pay they are absolute top shit!! It is an EG kit which has the 12 and 10kg spring rates which are a tincy bit hard for me but I think they'd go quite well in a DC2. And of course with Daiyamas you will get great service and support from Mac :thumbsup:

[freestylin_hamster]

I'd say go with teh Daiyamas, yet to get a set from myself but from other experiences they are definatly the way to go esspecially bang for buck.
But if you've got the cash then go for something like tein.

It's a hard chocie really as the koni/neuspeed combo is damn good too

[s0cks]

Originally Posted by freestylin_hamster

It's a hard chocie really as the koni/neuspeed combo is damn good too

Yeh I know

So many choices and everyone saying that they're all good! Koni + neuspeeds were another option. The Daiyama's are sounding sweet though. And good price.

[DrTec]

Im very tempted on some Buddyclub coilivers for mine.

Around $1800 for the full set.. and depending who you know might be cheaper.

Im in total agreement that D2's "do the job" and im glad your going to get something ITR worthy

[s0cks]

Originally Posted by DrTec

Im very tempted on some Buddyclub coilivers for mine.

Around $1800 for the full set.. and depending who you know might be cheaper.

Im in total agreement that D2's "do the job" and im glad your going to get something ITR worthy

Thats sorta same money as the Tein's. Are the Buddy's good? I've heard too many bad things about D2's to bother with them. While good for a lot of cars, apparently they aren't that great for the ITR.

[DrTec]

Originally Posted by s0cks

Thats sorta same money as the Tein's. Are the Buddy's good? I've heard too many bad things about D2's to bother with them. While good for a lot of cars, apparently they aren't that great for the ITR.

Unfortunatley i dont know anyone thats used them in a Honda. But im pretty sure the Fastlane Tyres DC5 has them. I will try find out. Havnt been in to see Jono for ages.
The BC stuff looks top notch mind you. Perfect construction etc...

[Non Vtec]

the cheap buddyclubs are $1800.. the good ones are $4500...

[Coupe-R]

I have the entry level full adjustment TEIN FLEX suspension. Id say its more of a daily driver and occasional track suspension.

It comes with soft spring rates, my rear springs are tooth picks 225lb.
However I have 16 point adjustment and full height and spring tension adjustment. If you know the right people these are $1400

Im guessing those Daiyamas would be good on the track but hard as hell on the street?

For a serious track car, the TEIN N1 would probably be best out of the TEINS, with rates well over 1000lb and dampner AND rebound ajustment with the tank on the side.

I think for a road rally car, Koni's+NUSPEEDS would be good, or any progressive spring because I cld tell at high speeds and bumps my teins would bounce me into a wall!

here is a matrix of where my FLEX suspension is compared to others

[the_chad]

Originally Posted by DrTec

Im in total agreement that D2's "do the job" and im glad your going to get something ITR worthy

Yeah me too... The amount of people who slap on cheap coilovers/springs and see it as an "improvement"...


I run neuspeed race/koni yellow setup and value for money I don't think you can do much better. Its comfortable on the street, (running on softest dampner setting) but come track days they will do the job nicely :thumbsup:

[freestylin_hamster]

Originally Posted by the_chad

Its comfortable on the street

Hah in the front seat maybe...

[s0cks]

Originally Posted by the_chad

Yeah me too... The amount of people who slap on cheap coilovers/springs and see it as an "improvement"...


I run neuspeed race/koni yellow setup and value for money I don't think you can do much better. Its comfortable on the street, (running on softest dampner setting) but come track days they will do the job nicely :thumbsup:

Can I ask how much it was all up? Handling better? Or similiar?

[Coupe-R]

im guessing koni's are 800-1000?
nuespeeds 400-550?

So cld be the same or more than my teins

HOWEVER this bilstein/koni and nuespeed setup is the same as some fast people on the board here are running, i.e. Slapt and EGizzleSizzle :wink:

[the_chad]

Originally Posted by s0cks

Can I ask how much it was all up? Handling better? Or similiar?

Handling alot better. The damper adjusting has alot more effect than D2/Daiyama- they are more like "extra hard" then "hard". The koni ranges from comfortable to very hard. It can handle a bump without bouncing off in a different direction, great for a back road which isn't perfect. (or most of wellington's roads) and doesn't jar the whole cabin like a cheaper coilover. It handles the neuspeed race springs fine aswell, standard shocks would struggle with them over an extended amount of time. I picked my lot up second hand, but yeah a reasonable estimate would be $1500ish. Also I'm pretty sure they can be rebuilt too? Can anyone confirm this?

[vtec8 returns]

Originally Posted by the_chad

Yeah Konis are rebuildable, but its a bit a have, cos the cost to rebuild is more than 3/4 the price of new. When you take into account of not having your car and waiting for them to be rebuilt it I would almost look at buying new.(Speaking from experience here)

Handling alot better. The damper adjusting has alot more effect than D2/Daiyama- they are more like "extra hard" then "hard". The koni ranges from comfortable to very hard. It can handle a bump without bouncing off in a different direction, great for a back road which isn't perfect. (or most of wellington's roads) and doesn't jar the whole cabin like a cheaper coilover. It handles the neuspeed race springs fine aswell, standard shocks would struggle with them over an extended amount of time. I picked my lot up second hand, but yeah a reasonable estimate would be $1500ish. Also I'm pretty sure they can be rebuilt too? Can anyone confirm this?

[vtec8 returns]

Originally Posted by the_chad

Handling alot better. The damper adjusting has alot more effect than D2/Daiyama- they are more like "extra hard" then "hard". The koni ranges from comfortable to very hard. It can handle a bump without bouncing off in a different direction, great for a back road which isn't perfect. (or most of wellington's roads) and doesn't jar the whole cabin like a cheaper coilover. It handles the neuspeed race springs fine aswell, standard shocks would struggle with them over an extended amount of time. I picked my lot up second hand, but yeah a reasonable estimate would be $1500ish. Also I'm pretty sure they can be rebuilt too? Can anyone confirm this?

Yeah Konis are rebuildable, but its a bit a have, cos the cost to rebuild is more than 3/4 the price of new. When you take into account of not having your car and waiting for them to be rebuilt it I would almost look at buying new.(Speaking from experience here)

[URECKN]

Originally Posted by Non Vtec

the cheap buddyclubs are $1800.. the good ones are $4500...

Actually you will find that the entry level D1's & N+ suspension is around $1800 depending on type of car.

The Racing Spec dampners retail from $2200.

Originally Posted by DrTec

Unfortunatley i dont know anyone thats used them in a Honda. But im pretty sure the Fastlane Tyres DC5 has them. I will try find out. Havnt been in to see Jono for ages.
The BC stuff looks top notch mind you. Perfect construction etc...

Yes we sure do use them in the DC5 and our WRX and R32, if you ask anyone who has been in the cars the ride is amazing and the transformation from a nice street ride to track is perfect. I have used Teins, HKS, D2's and KSports before and the racing spec dampners rate above them all !

Hope this helps

Jono

[Coupe-R]

what model TEIN and what car

cause u clda tried the crappest tein vs a really great buddy club setup. Just clearning things up, I imagine buddy club make great dampners tho 8)

[DrTec]

Originally Posted by URECKN

Actually you will find that the entry level D1's & N+ suspension is around $1800 depending on type of car.

The Racing Spec dampners retail from $2200.

Yes we sure do use them in the DC5 and our WRX and R32, if you ask anyone who has been in the cars the ride is amazing and the transformation from a nice street ride to track is perfect. I have used Teins, HKS, D2's and KSports before and the racing spec dampners rate above them all !

Hope this helps

Jono

Cheers Jono. I know what im getting for the Skyline then A bit late for the ITR now

[s0cks]

What do you guys reckon to these?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-89068531.htm

Apparently they are the exact same construction as the Apexi N1 EXV, just branded OEM BC instead. He's offering a good price, but I hate to rush into things

[DrTec]

Originally Posted by s0cks

What do you guys reckon to these?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-89068531.htm

Apparently they are the exact same construction as the Apexi N1 EXV, just branded OEM BC instead. He's offering a good price, but I hate to rush into things

I didnt read the whole auction. but they were for an R33.. does he stock them for everything?

BC's are pretty much the same as D2's. Pizzaboy has them so ask him about them.