EK Civic Suspension Query

andatron_gtir · 25th August 2006, 01:10 PM

Im trying to sort out raising my sister's Civic.

Its a '96 EK2 with a B16B in it, has super low kings in it at the mo with a buddy club kit and 14" wheels which makes it too low for her to drive around.

Looking at raising it up so she can get around in it without leaving a trail of fibreglass behind her.

So was going to put a set of standard '97 VIT-R springs in it which i was told will fit? Will this raise it much? A good option?

But was thinking about the possibility of going for some of those Coilover Sleeves - are these an OK option? Will it have a decent ride height with these and also the possibility to wind it down a bit lower when necessary?

Do you need a cert for them and where is a good place/price to get them for?

thanks guys.

TakeiTeg · 25th August 2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andatron_gtir

Im trying to sort out raising my sister's Civic.

Its a '96 EK2 with a B16B in it, has super low kings in it at the mo with a buddy club kit and 14" wheels which makes it too low for her to drive around.

Looking at raising it up so she can get around in it without leaving a trail of fibreglass behind her.

So was going to put a set of standard '97 VIT-R springs in it which i was told will fit? Will this raise it much? A good option?

But was thinking about the possibility of going for some of those Coilover Sleeves - are these an OK option? Will it have a decent ride height with these and also the possibility to wind it down a bit lower when necessary?

Do you need a cert for them and where is a good place/price to get them for?

thanks guys.

it's a ek2 with a civic type-R b16b engine? whoa lucky girl.

yes of course the vtir springs will fit, and it'll rise it to around 3-4fingers space left between wheels and guard as it's a stock spring.

as for coilover sleeves, no try to stay away from them, I'd recommand you rather find some cheap coilvoer suspension and do it properly, and yes any height adjustable suspension will need a cert.

cert is around $360-400ish

you just have to check up the lvvta site and check for the nearest lvvta certifier.

nva2nd · 25th August 2006, 01:44 PM

I dont quite agree with staying away from coil-over sleeves.

A good pair of shocks and some good coilover sleeves can work wonders too.

Bananaman · 25th August 2006, 02:00 PM

Type-R springs will give a nice ride. Pretty firm compared to the stock springs and a little lower in a civic than standard springs.

Just my 2c worth

White-R · 25th August 2006, 04:40 PM

I have suspension off an EK9 (Type R Civic) It'll fix up your ride height as its factory... and its a bit more firm than VTI... pm me with an offer if you want it.

22 · 25th August 2006, 07:16 PM

Sounds like Ali's old EK2 with b16b transplant.

The VTIR springs will fit as said above and will definitrly raise up the car.
It's a good option to go with CTR springs as they will preform better than VTIR springs.

If you are looking to install some coilover sleeves with a lot of driving the shocks will most likely give up and that would be costly. If you do go coilover sleeves get a decent shock too, but then again that could be costly - the best bet would be to find a fully adjustable coilover like Daiyama or D2 - these are fairly inexpensive these days and are a great entry-level coilover.

Another option is purchasing bigger wheels along with the springs to give it a little more height.

andatron_gtir · 25th August 2006, 08:29 PM

yea it is Ali's old car.

Yea ive told her its best to just go with a full coilover but she doesnt want to spend that much.

gary · 25th August 2006, 10:33 PM

Sell those wheels and put some 16's or 17's on, big wheels not my taste really but the bigger wheels will raise it and won't look too bad with buddy club kit. Sell the springs too and get some CTR ones.

Spanky69r · 25th August 2006, 10:44 PM

ppl always bags the coilover sleeves and standard shocks
yeah i suppose over a period of 10 yrs they might give up, but i ran standard si-r shocks and coilover sleeves for over 2 yrs with no probs, and they were still fine, when i sold them and seeing it being sold they still look like theyre in there so with about 5 yrs theyre still hanging in there

Matty · 25th August 2006, 10:46 PM

+1 vote for CTR springs. My Spoons are 10mm lower and firmer than CTRs and give a good ride height, but might be a bit too low for a BC kit, and probably a bit more than she'd be willing to spend.

andatron_gtir · 26th August 2006, 10:27 AM

right deciding to go for White-R's EK9 shocks and springs, so everyone think this is a sensible option?

anyone know what the clearance of a buddy club kit is like on EK9 stock suspension?

22 · 26th August 2006, 11:35 AM

Should be a decent 3-4 finger gaps, theres a black EK with a buddy club kit with 17s rolling around.. it look as if it has 3-4 finger gaps.

David R · 26th August 2006, 05:14 PM

Small wheels looked ok on that car because it wsa (is?) slammed. If you lift it up and keep the 14's it'll look stupid. Get some bigger wheels for it and learn to avoid nasty driveways etc.

sheep · 1st September 2006, 09:36 AM

Recently Ive found the same with King superlows in my EF Civic. Replaced the standard suspension with King superlows all round & it has totally boned it out in the front but the rear is a nice ride height tho. Im thinking about mixing & matching springs - keeping the SL Kings in the rear & going with some Jamex 40mm lowering springs in the front to even it up. I have 14" alloys on the EF & the front crossmember sits 65mm off the ground!! Its ridiculous & handles like crap - if you have a kit on your EK ground clearance will be even worse. I think the idea of the CTR suspension is great, & if after fitting that you think it's too high you prolly wont have any troubles selling it on again if you wanted to try something else.

MugenEK · 2nd September 2006, 10:08 AM

Another Option would be some Mugen Showa Springs!! Good height and also gives you good riding quality. PM me if you are interested!!

In saying that CTR springs are good option :wink:

berman · 2nd September 2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MugenEK

Another Option would be some Mugen Showa Springs!! Good height and also gives you good riding quality. PM me if you are interested!!

*wait's for Tysonzane to whistle his tune*

SQUERT · 2nd September 2006, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andatron_gtir

right deciding to go for White-R's EK9 shocks and springs, so everyone think this is a sensible option?

anyone know what the clearance of a buddy club kit is like on EK9 stock suspension?

Yep sounds like a good idea to me

-KONIG- · 2nd September 2006, 12:05 PM

Is the car even lowered? before you buy the same thing to put in!

Just get some 15 inch or 16 inch wheels to raise it a bit

SQUERT · 2nd September 2006, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -KONIG-

Is the car even lowered? before you buy the same thing to put in!

Just get some 15 inch or 16 inch wheels to raise it a bit

haha the price for some decent wheels she mosaswell just buy adjustables..

HUSSLAA · 3rd September 2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by $CENSLS1$

haha the price for some decent wheels she mosaswell just buy adjustables..

..he/she will still be rolling on 14" super gangster alloys..

Go with some 15" - 16" wheels... getting the adjustables would be pointless when you're still running 14" wheels.

CIVTEC · 3rd September 2006, 10:21 AM

^^ Agreed. :thumbsup:
14's are shit. My 2 cents.

25th August 2006, 01:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
andatron_gtir Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	EK Civic Suspension Query Im trying to sort out raising my sister's Civic. Its a '96 EK2 with a B16B in it, has super low kings in it at the mo with a buddy club kit and 14" wheels which makes it too low for her to drive around. Looking at raising it up so she can get around in it without leaving a trail of fibreglass behind her. So was going to put a set of standard '97 VIT-R springs in it which i was told will fit? Will this raise it much? A good option? But was thinking about the possibility of going for some of those Coilover Sleeves - are these an OK option? Will it have a decent ride height with these and also the possibility to wind it down a bit lower when necessary? Do you need a cert for them and where is a good place/price to get them for? thanks guys.

25th August 2006, 01:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
nva2nd Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,623 Location: Hamilton	I dont quite agree with staying away from coil-over sleeves. A good pair of shocks and some good coilover sleeves can work wonders too. __________________ Lightning Motorsport \| Currently Own: 95 dc2 h2b, 92 Sil80 \| Currently Drive: 92 Mx 2.4L...

25th August 2006, 02:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bananaman Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,327 Location: Foxton Beach	Type-R springs will give a nice ride. Pretty firm compared to the stock springs and a little lower in a civic than standard springs. Just my 2c worth __________________ It is better to have a Honda and no Money, than it is to have Money and no Honda.

25th August 2006, 04:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
White-R Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 450 Location: Christchurch	I have suspension off an EK9 (Type R Civic) It'll fix up your ride height as its factory... and its a bit more firm than VTI... pm me with an offer if you want it. __________________ A daily dose of vtec is good for your health.

25th August 2006, 07:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
22 Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,735 Location: Wellington	Sounds like Ali's old EK2 with b16b transplant. The VTIR springs will fit as said above and will definitrly raise up the car. It's a good option to go with CTR springs as they will preform better than VTIR springs. If you are looking to install some coilover sleeves with a lot of driving the shocks will most likely give up and that would be costly. If you do go coilover sleeves get a decent shock too, but then again that could be costly - the best bet would be to find a fully adjustable coilover like Daiyama or D2 - these are fairly inexpensive these days and are a great entry-level coilover. Another option is purchasing bigger wheels along with the springs to give it a little more height. __________________ Rota wheels - buy them here

25th August 2006, 08:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
andatron_gtir Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	yea it is Ali's old car. Yea ive told her its best to just go with a full coilover but she doesnt want to spend that much.

25th August 2006, 10:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
gary Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 692 Location: Wellington	Sell those wheels and put some 16's or 17's on, big wheels not my taste really but the bigger wheels will raise it and won't look too bad with buddy club kit. Sell the springs too and get some CTR ones.

25th August 2006, 10:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Matty Team NZH: Mod 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 9,137 Location: Hastings	+1 vote for CTR springs. My Spoons are 10mm lower and firmer than CTRs and give a good ride height, but might be a bit too low for a BC kit, and probably a bit more than she'd be willing to spend. __________________ Not so much a sleeper as requiring CPR...

26th August 2006, 10:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
andatron_gtir Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	right deciding to go for White-R's EK9 shocks and springs, so everyone think this is a sensible option? anyone know what the clearance of a buddy club kit is like on EK9 stock suspension?

26th August 2006, 11:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
22 Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,735 Location: Wellington	Should be a decent 3-4 finger gaps, theres a black EK with a buddy club kit with 17s rolling around.. it look as if it has 3-4 finger gaps. __________________ Rota wheels - buy them here

1st September 2006, 09:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
sheep Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 465 Location: Christchurch	Recently Ive found the same with King superlows in my EF Civic. Replaced the standard suspension with King superlows all round & it has totally boned it out in the front but the rear is a nice ride height tho. Im thinking about mixing & matching springs - keeping the SL Kings in the rear & going with some Jamex 40mm lowering springs in the front to even it up. I have 14" alloys on the EF & the front crossmember sits 65mm off the ground!! Its ridiculous & handles like crap - if you have a kit on your EK ground clearance will be even worse. I think the idea of the CTR suspension is great, & if after fitting that you think it's too high you prolly wont have any troubles selling it on again if you wanted to try something else. __________________ On the first day god created "evo" ... then came VTec and he forgot all else ...

2nd September 2006, 10:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
MugenEK Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 111 Location: Auckland	Another Option would be some Mugen Showa Springs!! Good height and also gives you good riding quality. PM me if you are interested!! In saying that CTR springs are good option :wink: __________________ Mugen Power!! www.redlinetec.com

2nd September 2006, 12:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
-KONIG- Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 859 Location: Palmerston North	Is the car even lowered? before you buy the same thing to put in! Just get some 15 inch or 16 inch wheels to raise it a bit __________________ Ex B18CR EK! Buddyclub, Apexi, Mugen, AEM, Koni, 4.785 Final drive!

3rd September 2006, 10:21 AM	#21 (permalink)
CIVTEC Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,464 Location: Wellington	^^ Agreed. :thumbsup: 14's are shit. My 2 cents. __________________ MILF. It just tastes better.

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