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View Poll Results: Bilstein or Koni.
Bilstein, single tube large body. 19 48.72%
Koni, dual tube adjustable 20 51.28%
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Old 31st July 2006, 11:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Might be of some help:

http://www.tuninglinx.com/html/bilst...ni-shocks.html
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Old 1st August 2006, 10:42 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Fair enough, I'll be doing the majority of driving on the road (the car will be road registered and certed) and we all know how bumpy and rooted our NZ roads can be.

Cheers for that but the write up was a bit of a let down though. Not exactly in depth
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Old 15th August 2006, 01:03 PM   #28 (permalink)
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they got stolen.......

Not all bad though, they were pinched from the workshop at Stocks so even though they are only a week old and never been on the road I get new ones on insurance which i tell you is a hell of a relief!

So if you ever see a rusty EF boasting near new shortened Koni's with King Race springs, shoot the bastards in the face and throw them down a hole.

They are recognisable because the rears are actually Mazda MX5 shocks and they have a totally redundant rear brake line bracket which is not used on the Honda.
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Old 15th August 2006, 01:06 PM   #29 (permalink)
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they got stolen.......
Whaaaat. Are you serious??
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Old 15th August 2006, 01:36 PM   #30 (permalink)
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they got stolen.......
Whaaaat. Are you serious??
Yeah but it's all good they are hooking me up with another set, just means i have to wait again.....
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What else was taken from the workshop, or was it just your stuff? Someone must have known what was there
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who voted koni over bilstein :evil:

anyways, bilsteins anyday, handling wise anyways,

I do not like how koni handles, and i've tried 3 types of bilsteins over one of the top koni coilover suspensions and all 3 of them were just mroe firm then the koni, and when pushed hard they don't seem to go down as much as the konis, the bilsteins reboundnig feel is way better too imo.
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What else was taken from the workshop, or was it just your stuff? Someone must have known what was there
Not sure they just rang to say there had been a break in and my stuff was nicked, they were with a documet which I had made up showing a diagram of the car and suspension geometries so the theives will know straight away what car they'll be for. Probably why they were taken.

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who voted koni over bilstein :evil:

anyways, bilsteins anyday, handling wise anyways,

I do not like how koni handles, and i've tried 3 types of bilsteins over one of the top koni coilover suspensions and all 3 of them were just mroe firm then the koni, and when pushed hard they don't seem to go down as much as the konis, the bilsteins reboundnig feel is way better too imo.
It totally depends how they are valved or what spring rates they had....and that applies for both the bilstein and the Koni.... If you have a soft valved Billstein it's going to feel soft, and vise versa.

I felt the Konis on their stiffest setting and they were rock solid. It'll be a rare occassion that I use the firmest setting. But at least I have the choice. With a Bilstein I have to pick a valve rating and stick with it, what happens when the conditions change? The surface changes? or you want to set up for drag rather than track? The only thing you can do is change your spring rate, and that wont help with re-bound.

I'm not quite sure what you mean when you said "when pushed hard they don't seem to go down as much as the konis" if you mean physically pushing down on the car then from my experience, on the hardest setting the Koni's won't go down by hand at all. All the movment I could get was in the tyre.

But just because it's firm doesn't mean it's superior, KYB agx's are both stiffer than a standard Koni equivalent, (and more expensive) but everyone knows the Koni is superior to the AGX for a number of reasons, tube design, rebuildablity, durablitiy, wall thickness etc.

My car's not a trailer car, when I take it to the track I'll be driving it there and when i do, i can lift the ride height and back off the stiffness so at least i get there without blowing out a shock on one of our monumental trademark Kiwi potholes.

No one ever knocked Bilsteins, they are a great shock I've just decided Koni can offer me more for my money and a better suited solution for my specific application. I'm glad i made the choice I did.
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