ME Getting banned at Hamilton grandview Countdown

[GDB]

it must just be the store manager trying to be a wa*ker, i work at countdown and at the store i work at they let people buy sh*t loads theres one guy that buys pallets of butter and toliet paper and they know he sells it at his dairy

[dazznz]

I think this is just f*ckin stupid!!! Why the hell would you go and buy veges or watever to resell from countdown?? I would be so much cheaper to go and buy them from a vege store..........am i right? Sounds stupid to me......maybe he just used that as an excuse.........

[Moclov]

You're still assuming that he stereotyped

I remember seeing a documentary a while back which showed how as a person gets older, their ability to distinguish between different faces gets worse (generally). The exception was you can always distinguish between the group you're a part of.
So for example for the average white person, if you put 2 similar black Labradors in front of them, chances are they wouldn't be able to tell them apart.
If you put 2 similar white people in front of them, they would easily be able to tell them apart.
If you put 2 similar Asian people in front of them, they would have more difficulty distinguishing between them, than the white people.

There's nothing racist about the outcome of the above test, it's just a fact of life.

[CVC2NV]

Originally Posted by Hayce

That would be me.

I didnt see anything in there related to race. That could have happened to me ( Im as white and as kiwi as it gets).
It seems to me that the store keeper (or whatever he was) made a poor assumption of people buying for a business, thats all. The point about being family or not didnt get you/them banned so I dont see its relevance.

Your "ban" should be lifted if you/your family do not by for trade, obviously.

And to be honest calling police pigs, people bitchs & telling them to fuck off... well sure your upset but tough, that'll get you no where.

why don't they assume that when my mum goes and does the shoppin for us, her parents, her sister and who not and fills a trolley, goes to the car and comes back and fills another one. its cos im white...

if they gave a tresspass notice based on an "assumption" thats stupid, and racist...

[Hayce]

^^ so what because its never happened to you its never happened to anyone thats not asian?

the trespass is stupid yes but not racist. I could get one, as could anyone.

[flat_0ut]

I don't think the manager should have the right in the first place ot order a tresspass notice unless he had really good grounds. I believe that he should have evidence first, not for the police but for his store manager. Surely they have systems in place when dealing with 'suspected' resellers buying their products and i'm sure it doesn't involve issuing tresspass notices. I think the manager should be forced to apologise...

[SK1TZ- EF]

I often see my local dairy owner, with his Hiace van, at pakNsave near my house, and he sure is buying for his dairy, I always say Gday and go on with it, in fact, i never knew that supermarkets didnt allow it!

how about they look at it this way, they no longer buy from them, the only person missing out is teh actual supermarket, its not like takeaways/dairy's pay less than Jo Public

sounds a little Racist to me, esp if your mums friend was in a few days earlier, I know I go to the Shops at least 2, maybe 3 times a week

FFS

like I said, take em down!

[2-Tricky]

I agree that the manager made a mistake, and they should really cheack out if you owned a takeaway before ordering the notice.
But you cant cry racism every time something like this happens, like you said your mother couldnt understand what the manger was saying, so there was obvously a communication problem of some kind at the time this happened, she couldnt explain herself to him, and he couldnt understand her.

[nva2nd]

Some stores do, some dont.

Countdown in Cambridge used to not allow it (Dairy owners, Takeaway stores), From buying from there stores but now do.

I dont see whats wrong with them buying it, the super markets are still making there money from it

[Locust2000]

Originally Posted by Hayce

And to be honest calling police pigs, people bitchs & telling them to fuck off... well sure your upset but tough, that'll get you no where.

I agree. After reading your story I think they made a wrong assumption and should lift the ban, HOWEVER, the whole time I was reading the story I was thinking 'They should throw this fucker in a cell for a night'(you) because of the swearing and how easily you seemed to lose your rag. Yes they were wrong, but you dealt with it very very poorly.

[tianporn]

Is there a law or rule stating that people cant buy large quantities to resell? Does it really affect the supermarket in any way? At the end of the day, they are getting $$$ no matter who they sell it to. If there was, say a sign stating that you can only buy 5 brocolli or whatever then fair enough.

The fact of the matter is, it is human nature to make assumptions. Some people just go overboard. Man everyone should watch Crash

[Haydz]

Immature comments like calling Police Officers pigs and telling the store manager to fuck off will get you nowhere.

I don't see the link to racism at all, just a poor assumption on the managers behalf that your mother was trying to buy for resale.

Make a complaint and deal with it the proper way, don't get angry and throw a tanty.

[flat_0ut]

Originally Posted by tianporn

Is there a law or rule stating that people cant buy large quantities to resell? Does it really affect the supermarket in any way? At the end of the day, they are getting $$$ no matter who they sell it to. If there was, say a sign stating that you can only buy 5 brocolli or whatever then fair enough.

The fact of the matter is, it is human nature to make assumptions. Some people just go overboard. Man everyone should watch Crash

Most stores have an invisible limit of 6 of an item per shopper although this is rarely enforced. If people buy heaps from a store in bulk it would cause everyday people not getting any which would result in a loss of everyday customers which is why bulk buying is discouraged.

[Soichiro]

Originally Posted by Locust2000

I agree. After reading your story I think they made a wrong assumption and should lift the ban, HOWEVER, the whole time I was reading the story I was thinking 'They should throw this fucker in a cell for a night'(you) because of the swearing and how easily you seemed to lose your rag. Yes they were wrong, but you dealt with it very very poorly.

Well, valid points but 20 years ago I would've got upset and probably smacked anyone who treated my mum the same way. In fact I did once, and probably would again if it happened. And I'm not a violent person

[CRZYSi]

Originally Posted by Hayce

^^ so what because its never happened to you its never happened to anyone thats not asian?

the trespass is stupid yes but not racist. I could get one, as could anyone.

im with you ... and yea i voted no after reading ur fine case ... but yea its just fukin stupid assuming something when you dont really know for sure

[macabre]

Originally Posted by osirisboi

What does sexuality have to do with this?

I think its safe to assume the words "faggot/gay/homo" ect have transcended above sexual slurs on the internet and in real life as well into a turn of phrase or colloquism. Much like they dont mean "wood/happy" anymore. And sorry for typing 'people' wrong...................

[Dezigns]

Originally Posted by nva2nd

I dont see whats wrong with them buying it, the super markets are still making there money from it

How about if FBI had airfilters on sale for $19.95 each. Someone went in and bought a heap of them and then sold them for $35 on TradeMe?
Or you sell a part on NZH for cheap, and then the person who bought it knows they got a good bargain, throws it on TradeMe for more?

I know I'd be pretty pissed off in both cases

[Soichiro]

Originally Posted by Dezigns

How about if FBI had airfilters on sale for $19.95 each. Someone went in and bought a heap of them and then sold them for $35 on TradeMe?
Or you sell a part on NZH for cheap, and then the person who bought it knows they got a good bargain, throws it on TradeMe for more?

I know I'd be pretty pissed off in both cases

I don't see the logic, no-one forces someone to sell at a certain price (unless you're Philip Taito-thingy), if the buyer then makes a profit well that's their gain. It's called capitalism, your $19.95 filters might have cost you $5.95 so you're doing all right. Has no-one here made money out of buying or selling a car?

[mrcvc]

Is anyone else thinking "who cares if she's buying it for a takeaway? as long as your paying for it it should be fine". i HATE racist people, theres so many around but they just pretend to like each other. I was banned from foodtown when i was 14. just complain, maybe if we get enough people to complain then he'll get fired.

[H1RISK]

I dont understand,

who cares if you are buying for takeaways bla bla bla? sh*t isn't it the same as us buying ingriedients to cook at home? what choice do they have with what we do with what we buy from their grocery store, and do with it later?

you're definitely not in the wrong dude, stand your ground, and get 'unbanned' from the store, its a bloody supermarket for crying out loud, its not like you stole anything

[Remax]

Now; one thing is for certain here - we are only seeing one very angry side of the story. It is highly unlikely that stores like Contdown want escalating scenes in their stores; and one thing I keep re-reading in the first post is the fact that she threw the produce on the ground and obviously did not cooperate with some questions. These stores have a tight mark up on veges and she "threw the crap on the ground". In all liklihood that would have bruised the goods and probably aren't saleable; that is treated almost the same as theft. Now; not knowing the stores side is difficult; but you went in with a massive chip on your shoulder and you started the racist talk. Saying "f you" three times to the store manager sure isn't going to have the red carpet rolled out for you.

My opinion; I voted no; and would maintain the tresspass order.

Flame me away.

[Dw33d0r]

This is odd.

As far as the supermarket goes, they're getting their $5 for their broccoli, I wholeheartedly believe that its' NZ's classic "tall poppy" syndrome at work again.

At my place of work, a department store, we often have clearance lines, ie $200 items for as little as $40. Just recently, one of my workmates purchased around 10 of these $40 items; and it was a manager that sold them to him.

He put them on Trademe, tends to sell them for around $200 a pop. Not long after, he was rung by the company management (ie, head office!) and was berated for not acting in our stores' best interests, and was given a written warning! He refused to accept it, and eventually had it reworded (3 times!) so that he took as little blame as possible.

Basically, head office said that our quit cycle process is such that we need managerial permission to buy in bulk like this, moreso with a managers' permission. Except, it was a manager that sold him the goods.. so how was he at fault? The store couldn't sell them, they were on quit cycle, and he was paying the asking price.. with managerial permission. But he still got in trouble. Its' a bullshit policy no matter which way you look at it.

I was told of another staff member up north, who also did the same thing, except on a much larger scale, she purchased basically all clearance items, and onsold them via Trademe. The police were involved, but no charges were laid, as she had broken no laws. I'm not too sure wether she's still with the company though.

Soooo..

Its' a case of, "we'd much rather sell this stock to 50 ordinary NZrs than sell it all to one person". I don't understand it. They're getting what they want, shit, they're getting rid of it all at once, no need pissing around with shrinkaging perished stock.. but its' still a problem. The only thing I can see against it is that usually if you advertise an item, by law you have to stock it, and selling it all to one person would open the company up to complaints to Consumer Affairs from people who missed out, and a potential fine of thousands of dollars!

But in this case, its' just a simple case of mistaken identity. Their loss, by all means tell your "community" not to buy there, because thats' about all you can do.

Man, NZ really does suck sometimes. I often wonder why people come over from Asia/India to settle here, with the amount of grief they get.

[Hayce]

Originally Posted by Dw33d0r

Man, NZ really does suck sometimes. I often wonder why people come over from Asia/India to settle here, with the amount of grief they get.

No whats odd is your big ass post about bugger all.

Then at the end of it you chuck this in there with no reference in the rest of your post about race

The inital poll/problem here is about racism. There was no racial based decisons made, unless the op comes back and enlightens us more.

Countdown in town regularly has "no trade supplied" signs all over the soft drink isles, Ive never paid it much attention cos im not a trade customer... just saying that the premise is not new

[badcf4]

yes there were racial undertones to this.......however i dont belive that the shop keeper is a racist.......his mistake was to stereotype all asian people as takeaway owners........his other mistake was to turn away a customer which effectivly does not help the buisness he is in charge of 8)
if i was running the shop and someone was repeat purchasing for their takeaway store/dairy or whatever id be trying to offer them a coffee or some shit not turn them out on there ass............shopkeeper=peckerhead.
as for the complainents reaction to the situation...good for you man......the egg is lucky all he got was verbal abuse........i woulda punched em in the chops if he treated my mama like that.

hope you do take it further....good luck

[Moclov]

I wish I wasn't a New Zealand born european male aged 18 - 49, I have nothing to blame being unfairly treated on

You guys don't know how lucky you are.