Removing Air-con

[intergiexsi]

Would any of you guys, know how much it will cost to get someone to remove A/C and P/S and i live in the hamilton region, thanks.

[americ_ian]

il remove it for ya for $50

[VTECNU]

if ya take your air con out how much would it increase your power by?

Originally Posted by //////VTEC\\\\\\

if ya take your air con out how much would it increase your power by?

jack all :wink: 5hp at the engine hehe

[pegboy]

I think its a bit more than that. You'll be surprised how much hp aircon uses.

At the WINTEC dyno we did a run with a 4AGE with aircon and one run without. The difference was 15HP

[americ_ian]

dem 4age's dont have enuf power to turn there own aircon pumps

[rage.]

u have to get it done properly. its illegal to discharge the aircon urself into the atmosphere. the actual physical removal is easy. just cut the aircon belt, unscrew the aircon pump, and remove all the hoses etc. might be a tad tricky locating all the little brackets to take out the pipes.

[americ_ian]

^^ its illegal but so is goin 51kph in a 50zone... who cares!
but yeah taken out aircon is easier than flushing the toilet, but even some people cant do that!

[Ebola_One]

It's illegal because of the gas in the Air con system, although, some later gasses are more ozone friendly than others.

Originally Posted by americ_ian

who cares!

You might, your kids will.
They'll be walking the earth in a lead fucking coat & still taking nasty doses of radiation.

Fried people anyone? (it's better than Mc D's...)

[americ_ian]

and ur vtec vtec'in with no cat everyday dusnt emit the same toxic gases and fumes that destroy the same thing??

[Ebola_One]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

and ur vtec vtec'in with no cat everyday dusnt emit the same toxic gases and fumes that destroy the same thing??

It might if I vtec'd everyday... hell, I'm lucky to drive the car once or twice a week... so shush

[intergiexsi]

don't worry guys, i v-tecing it everyday. this guy offered too get my gas removed from my air-con for free which i wasen't exspecting at all. but removing was something like 350 and i was like yeah. ok. right ... get it done from a mate mates so no worries dudes, keep driving them honda's

[americ_ian]

haha awesum, its not that hard of a job, jus need the right equipment
gd luck to ya

[intergiexsi]

i got a guy who knows how too remove it and got the tools so am not too worried goner get it removed on saturday, and getting my car sacked on it's ass so am looking fawd to the weekend.

[intergiexsi]

you got a quick prelude dude, followed da packed and saw you race not too bad at all.. keep up da work, might see u sometime and give ya ago , won't win but worth a try right ?

[Pdu-NZ]

You do know that when the air con is off, the air con pully is just free spinning, if you take the belt off you can spin the pully easily with yout hand (even one finger) so how would that save 15hp? maybe if the air con is on but who attempts to race with the it on.

[vtec_junky]

Originally Posted by Pdu-NZ

You do know that when the air con is off, the air con pully is just free spinning, if you take the belt off you can spin the pully easily with yout hand (even one finger) so how would that save 15hp? maybe if the air con is on but who attempts to race with the it on.

i always thought it more too do with weight?? no aircon = less weight, my aircon is not connected ie no belt ie pump pooed.
and it being illegal to release the gas into atmoshpere, i mean wtf who the hell is going to catch u !! do big alarm bells in the sky go off or does the sky change colour like when u piss in a pool with that chemical in???

anyway how easy to remove? really cause mine is just a waste of time?

[Py7h0n]

I dunno about the gas but I let mine out by mistake ... (unbolted a line) ... stank cause of the oil

removal is just unbolt compressor ... unbolt lines ... unbolt evaporator ... and if you want to remove lots of dash plastic and unbolt conderser ... should take you ~1hr if you don't know what your doing ...

[fonzy]

so can anyone confirm an estimnate of how much hp it increases? surely if it increased 15hp or so everyone would have their aircon removed

[SIRCVC]

I'm pretty sure it's not that much. If anything you can save a bit of weight by removing the compressor & other bits. There's also a box under the passenger side of the dash which you can remove & replace with a non aircon version.

I cut the belt off my old EF9 & didn't notice anything. I did notice a power drop when the aircon was on though.

[fonzy]

moral of the story: don't use aircon when racing

[Py7h0n]

If anything it is the weight of the whole system that helps you ... power will be next to nothing unless you have the aircon on while racing

[NAspirated]

1. The gas consists mainly of Freon. Its toxic in large quantities. DONT breathe it in. ever. i wouldnt even open my eyes around it.

2. 99% of car wreckers/dismantlers in the country will cut A/C lines. think they get the men in white coats to come do every car at $350 a time?

3. if you can get 15hp by removing aircon, i can run 10km/h faster by having a shave. its not gona happen.

4. Lots of Circuit racers, in years gone by, used to turn their A/C on full boar while racing. why? because the A/C is directly connected to the coolant system. it runs off the water, and has its own radiator. i.e. running it while your racing lessens the chance of overheating the engine. powerloss is marginal, overheating is far more important.

5. If you remove your entire A/C system, you will have to bridge the two hoses heading into the heater box in the dashboard. Due to Number 4 above, the A/C system runs off the engine coolant, so by removing it the lines need to be connected otherwise your coolant ends up at your feet and your engine will blow.

6. if you dont use your A/C once every few weeks, the Freon in the system freezes in the pipes. when it freezes, it creates small bursts of pressure which in turn cause small cracks and holes in the pipes. next time you start the car and your pipes heat up, the freon melts and reforms into a gas. then it leaks out of the cracks and holes. do the laws about not venting gas cover that aspect? 90% of the country would be in breach.

[songling]

Originally Posted by NAspirated

5. If you remove your entire A/C system, you will have to bridge the two hoses heading into the heater box in the dashboard. Due to Number 4 above, the A/C system runs off the engine coolant, so by removing it the lines need to be connected otherwise your coolant ends up at your feet and your engine will blow.

mine aint bridged, i have no problems with coolant leak, and i barely have to top up water..

[eg69]

Originally Posted by songling

mine aint bridged, i have no problems with coolant leak, and i barely have to top up water..

This would only be a problem if you remove the heaterbox itself (which I guess you could consider part of the 'entire heating system' but not explicitly a/c related. I've had my a/c out for 85,000kms without bridging anything, but thats because I still have the heaterbox.