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Old 5th July 2008, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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P-51 Low Level Flyby

YouTube - P51 Low Level
Just a flyby but I love watching over and over again just to listen to one of the sexiest sounding engines ever made IMO.

Here's couple more very low flybys too:
YouTube - F-18 naval incredibly low fly by
YouTube - very low f-16 fly by in afghanistan Full afterburner!
YouTube - A4 SkyHawk Low Flyby RNZAF represent!
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

I wanna join the Air Force.

But it's pretty much non exsistant and lots its appeal now
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Old 5th July 2008, 12:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

u should feel what its like standing ontop of a warship and having a jet strafe the ship, they fly about 30-50ft above the masts. its incredable.

even better is when ur standing at the end of a 50cal shooting at them (blanks of course)
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

looks cool when this happens
YouTube - extremely low fly-by - Blue Angel F/A 18

this looks like its about to fall out of the sky
YouTube - a 10 extremely low pass
(these a-10's are nuts YouTube - A-10 gun)
this guy might need to change his pants
YouTube - spitfire near miss
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

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I wanna join the Air Force.

But it's pretty much non exsistant and lots its appeal now
I'm probably just like you dude. Since about 8 flying skyhawks was all I wanted to do. Then they announced they were looking at F16s and I was f*cken sweet

Then Helen was like nah we don't need them and I was like Skyhawks would still be sweet so I kept tailoring my subjects to be a pilot. Then at about 6th form they decide to scrap the them and I'm all

Still in the back of my mind considering it. New helicopters are arriving 2010 - RNZAF - NH90 Helicopter Not the same as fighter jet but still good fun.

When I was about 12-13 I actually emailed away for an enlistment pack. Thats how much I wanted to join.
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

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looks cool when this happens
YouTube - extremely low fly-by - Blue Angel F/A 18

this looks like its about to fall out of the sky
YouTube - a 10 extremely low pass

this guy might need to change his pants
YouTube - spitfire near miss
The blue angel one is cool.
The A10 one the pilot was playing games - good on him
And the Spitfire - I wonder if the pilot realised he actually was?!
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I'm probably just like you dude. Since about 8 flying skyhawks was all I wanted to do. Then they announced they were looking at F16s and I was f*cken sweet

Then Helen was like nah we don't need them and I was like Skyhawks would still be sweet so I kept tailoring my subjects to be a pilot. Then at about 6th form they decide to scrap the them and I'm all

Still in the back of my mind considering it. New helicopters are arriving 2010 - RNZAF - NH90 Helicopter Not the same as fighter jet but still good fun.

When I was about 12-13 I actually emailed away for an enlistment pack. Thats how much I wanted to join.
i was in the exact same boat, im considering going over seas and joining up
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i was in the exact same boat, im considering going over seas and joining up
I actually looked at that too. Was looking at a move to the States. Need to live there for 4 years before you can apply for a greed card. I mean if you're going to make the move you might as well go to the best. Couldn't get a straight answer about whether a Kiwi could enlist and get Citizenship later.

They've got all the toys - I mean even the ANG and AF Reserve have the works.

I'm now looking at a move to Aus for other reasons now and probably look at the AF while I'm there.
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

go to ozzy they will pretty much let u in strait away, and they pay so much better than they do here.
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

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YouTube - P51 Low Level
Just a flyby but I love watching over and over again just to listen to one of the sexiest sounding engines ever made IMO.
Oh yeah I had a long standing obsession with one of these ever since sitting in one when I was young at an airshow and seeing it take of and climb basically vertically. That and a Hawker Seafury, so so awesome.

Heres another 250mph pass at 15ft
YouTube - P-51 Mustang super low pass
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

can anyone explain this one??
YouTube - HOW the fuck is this helicopter flying?

this is just nuts
YouTube - WoW, they're not insane!
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Stroboscopic effect, the frequency of the camera is synchronising with the rpm of the rotor. Same as when you sometimes see car wheels looking like they are going backwards, it's just an excellent example in this case.
Wont be a perfect match 1 for 1 by any means but the rotor is symmetrical through 72 degree incriments, five times in one rpm it can look the same.
As long as when the camera records a shot there is a blade in the same position it will look like it's staying still.
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

thought it must be something like that, looks pretty cool though
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Old 7th July 2008, 06:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

Someone posted some really good low flying videos ages ago, they were longer than these ones, about 3-5 minutes IIRC. One was over water and the other was in the desert somewhere and the planes were below the height of some of the trees!
I had a quick look on youtube but couldnt find them.
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

Had a little read up on the Merlin engines, pretty amazing for their time (1940s).

We're talking 27L, V12, 1500+HP, overhead camshaft, 4 valves per cylinder, 2-stage 2-speed (hydraulic clutch operated gear change) superchargers running up to 25lb boost. An "after-cooler" cast into the supercharger housing, automatic throttle control to maintain a selected boost level, sodium cooled exhaust valves, carb has automatic mixture control, dry sump, 6:1 CR, under 750kg weight (sounds heavy but truck engines of much smaller capacity and output are heaps heavier!)

58HP/L though, nowhere near a B16A, but awesome engineering in its day!
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Had a little read up on the Merlin engines, pretty amazing for their time (1940s).

We're talking 27L, V12, 1500+HP, overhead camshaft, 4 valves per cylinder, 2-stage 2-speed (hydraulic clutch operated gear change) superchargers running up to 25lb boost. An "after-cooler" cast into the supercharger housing, automatic throttle control to maintain a selected boost level, sodium cooled exhaust valves, carb has automatic mixture control, dry sump, 6:1 CR, under 750kg weight (sounds heavy but truck engines of much smaller capacity and output are heaps heavier!)

58HP/L though, nowhere near a B16A, but awesome engineering in its day!
Ha ha yeah but lets see a B16 run upside down pulling -4 G's!

Who remembers the merlin cutaway at Auckland museum?, you could push the button and watch it turn over and see all the parts move, I loved that as a kid.

I'm pretty sure the P-51D Mustang actually used a Gryphen not a Merlin and it was license built in the states.

The first of the Mustangs in the early part of WW2 (back in the spitfire days) had shitty american engines in them which never performed properly at altitude, as soon as they put the Rolls-Royce in them they became badass.
Even the early american jets had British engines in them, in the War the Yanks were no where near as innovative as the Brits and Germans.

dad said he got offered to buy a Merlin for £300 in the 70's but turned it down, he and his brother were going to put it in a car
But they ended up buying an old Lycoming engine instead, also intending to put that in a car but ended up putting it on a swap-buggy which sank on the Waikato in an accident.
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

i like the helicopters i remember them doing a lil recon around dunedin harbour
meh freaken ozzies
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

Can't beat this sound IMO

YouTube - Sea Fury - Old Warden VJ Display
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Good man, shit yeah Sea Fury FTW, radial engines are pretty damn cool.
No wonder its called Fury at 2500hp and 18 supercharged cylinders!!

And the six bladed prop is the WW2 version of Baller
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

Sea Fury's = yes.

I remembder seeing one at a Wings and Wheels at Ohakea years ago, the noise it made was incredible. Corsair's are also amazing things!

One thing I would like to see is a Thunderbolt in a dive, apparently they can break the sound barrier while diving...
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

That Sea Fury did sound awesome when flat out, especially combined with what I assume is supercharger whine in the background.

And 4 x 20mm canons is quite impressive.

I'm a fan of all those WW2 planes like the Corsair, Thunderbolt, Lightning and Wildcat but the Mustang will always be my favourite.

Did any of you go to the airshow in '92 that was at Auckland Airport? From memory it was called '92 International Airshow or something. That was awesome - they brought a Harrier out. Man that thing was loud.
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

I was at that Airshow. I have seen a few Harriers now and they are truly the loudest planes I have ever heard! Do you remember the little Bede BD-5J tiny jet (James Bond - Octopussy) It was awesome.

Is it just me that finds the Sea Fury ugly?

P51D = Beautiful looks & sound.
Spitfire = nice curves

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Is it just me that finds the Sea Fury ugly?
Yup.

Dad makes oil coolers and radiators for vintage cars and aircraft, so I've seen a few of these old planes in various states of rebuild (and seen the dollars that go into them!!!). The level of detail on some of them is amazing. One place we visited in the UK was rebuilding an old german fighter (cant remember the name now) and they were tracing all the pencil marks from the original construction off the old wreck and drawing them onto the new pieces they were fabricating!
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Re: P-51 Low Level Flyby

The Packard and RR Merlins were essentially the same, Packard ones were just licence built in the US as the RR ones being produced in England were being used in the Spitfires and Hurricanes.
It was the Allison that wasnt that great. Same engine that was in the P-40, it wasnt supercharged so didnt have the high altitude grunt that was needed in the European theatre. Although it was almost perfect for the P40s in the Pacific.
There werent that many Allison engined Mustangs made, the early A36 Apache version and some of the early ones supplied to the British had the Allison.

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