Awesome space framed prelude racecar on trademe

[doo0T!doo0T!]

This this is balls to the wall hardcore, 4agze running 30psi and RWD and a full space frame chassis.
Looks rangi but I bet its so awsome to drive.

OSCA turbo Honda Prelude & Trailer for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand

[americ_ian]

sweet mother of mary!
ive seen this once racing at taupo, but never imagined all that!

[timmiblc]

This car does a 1.11 lap around Taupo track2. You actually have to stand in the boot (no floor) to fill up the fuel tank.

[lotusboy]

Mental!

[Kiwi XTR2]

Originally Posted by timmiblc

This car does a 1.11 lap around Taupo track2. You actually have to stand in the boot (no floor) to fill up the fuel tank.

1:35.06 on Track 1 !!!

[dazznz]

Bloody cheap i reckon. Only prob is you can't race it in much.

[vtecd]

wow thats awesome!
I agree with 'dazznz' its actually quite well priced..

[doo0T!doo0T!]

It looks like the perfect project for someone to take on to finish, imagine how much cooler it would be if it was all nicely detailed and the ranginess tidied up.

I'm thinking ditch the 'lude panels and make a 1-piece lift up shell for it, maybe a torneo body with massive box flares or something, DTM style.

[Moclov]

Originally Posted by doo0T!doo0T!

It looks like the perfect project for someone to take on to finish, imagine how much cooler it would be if it was all nicely detailed and the ranginess tidied up.

I'm thinking ditch the 'lude panels and make a 1-piece lift up shell for it, maybe a torneo body with massive box flares or something, DTM style.

Do it do it do it!

[MyH22A]

Originally Posted by doo0T!doo0T!

It looks like the perfect project for someone to take on to finish, imagine how much cooler it would be if it was all nicely detailed and the ranginess tidied up.

I'm thinking ditch the 'lude panels and make a 1-piece lift up shell for it, maybe a torneo body with massive box flares or something, DTM style.

Nah man i wouldnt change a thing it still looks pretty professional on the outside, you wouldnt even know it was rangi under the hood from just looking at it, why make it heavier and slower, just so it can look better, hell no if anything you'd wanna make it lighter, shaw it would look phat no doubt all DTM style's but that'd just make it slower and negate the whole point of what the build/project car was all about, (power/weight) plus being in the oscar's is where all type's of project bad boy's come out to play.

A huge & heavy as torneo body making it higher and less aero dynamic also way more body roll and flex over the old 2 door light and prbly stronger chassis from the 80's, I dont think so Tim. No offense though dude dreams are free. just depends on the wallet, lol.

[Colza]

I think he meant a 1-piece fibreglass top that is the shape of a torneo...

[gotvtec]

I dont think you quite got the concept. It would just be a one piece fibre glass shell over the existing chassis/frame engine thing. Wouldn't add weight or change the chassis dynamics, just tidy it up a bit. I think it would be awesome, i'll start the sponsership off by chiping in $10

[MyH22A]

Originally Posted by gotvtec

I dont think you quite got the concept. It would just be a one piece fibre glass shell over the existing chassis/frame engine thing. Wouldn't add weight or change the chassis dynamics, just tidy it up a bit. I think it would be awesome, i'll start the sponsership off by chiping in $10

Ahhhhhh thats a point an all fibreglass shell would be okay, but i still think it looks too classic and custom to change really. great setup or project for someone to take on though, wish i had the money it'd be so much fun out there on the track, staggering numbers there round taupo, not bad at all.

[doo0T!doo0T!]

Originally Posted by MyH22A

Nah man i wouldnt change a thing it still looks pretty professional on the outside, you wouldnt even know it was rangi under the hood from just looking at it, why make it heavier and slower, just so it can look better, hell no if anything you'd wanna make it lighter, shaw it would look phat no doubt all DTM style's but that'd just make it slower and negate the whole point of what the build/project car was all about, (power/weight) plus being in the oscar's is where all type's project bad boy's come out to play.

Um I think you miss my point, by Torneo I mean Torneo style and by one piece I mean a foam/honeycomb core composite shell, one piece and lift up with no doors.
The whole shell would weigh maybe 45kg maybe less.

As far as I can tell that 'lude body is still steel so it's heavier than it needs to be.
The DTM cars are only representations of production cars for marketing reasons. Dimensionally, structurally and mechanically they have barely anything in common with the car they represent, not even wheel-base or door size some dont even have doors you climb in through a hatch. I have a copy of the 2006 technical regulations for the DTM series right here on my desk. I was involved with some of the early organisation of Class-1 Cars South Pacific (which never went ahead) and was based almost entirely on DTM rules but with Asian-pacific (including japanese) car manufacturers.

Originally Posted by MyH22A

A huge & heavy as torneo body making it higher and less aero dynamic also way more body roll and flex over the old 2 door light and prbly stronger chassis from the 80's, I dont think so Tim. No offense though dude dreams are free. just depends on the wallet, lol.

Um I think you need to take a closer look at the car. There is no prelude chassis remaining and has nothing to do with body roll or flex it's a full space frame, the shell just sits over it all. The lude body serves basically no purpose other than to cover the important part underneath and reduce drag.

Anyway it was just a thought and yes wallet dependent of course.

btw never say it cant be done, because inevitably someone will do it and you will end up looking like a fool.

[MyH22A]

Yeah i missed your point, But i thought staright away from reading your post who's gonna go to the trouble of doing all that for the OSCA's if u ever went off the track or hit a wall or someone hit you it'd cost $$$ just to repair it so yeah a deeep deep wallet & plus that old 80's shell as you put it, prbly help's hold it down abit, otherwise to light might equal wheelspin issue's, i think the setup is right as it is just needs tidying up & possibly more lightening, because it was first in its class! and 5th overall. Thats means it beat out alota big boys toy's that woulda had prbly twice the HP & i think u missed that point to begin with too, i dunno. But anyway point taken i didnt realise the chassis wasnt there of course being space framed i shoulda realised that to begin with. DOH!

[tjones]

dude the cars only 850kg how much more lighter than that do you need, Prob around the same weight as a crx but its rwd and 380odd hp will go plenty well 350hp in a crx is violent

any lighter and it wouldnt stay on the ground

[Coupe-R]

I can't see trademe at work.

But from the sounds of it, this is the old purple Ryan Alluminum prelude.
Its been around for years!
I remember about 10 years ago checking it out at taupo, racing with its team car.
a 13B Turbo powerd mini!!! Which cleaned up by the way and was faster than the lude when I was watching.

I actually watched the 13B turbo mini race against the 700HP lighting direct porsches. IT was a good race too

[grandell]

Twincharged!!
need more engine pics!

[doo0T!doo0T!]

Originally Posted by tjones

dude the cars only 850kg how much more lighter than that do you need, Prob around the same weight as a crx but its rwd and 380odd hp will go plenty well 350hp in a crx is violent

No ones saying it's not fast, or awesome. But there is nothing wrong with being lighter.
My crx was 780kg on the speedfactor 4-wheel scales and it has a full chassis & 6-point 1/2 cage so it's not even built to be ligth weight.
This lude sure has room to be lighter.

Originally Posted by tjones

any lighter and it wouldnt stay on the ground

Downforce.

An Ariel Atom is 465kg and 300hp and stays on the ground just fine.
F1 cars are sub 600kg and 800hp and they stay down so well you can drive one upside down in a tunnel.

There's no point in arguing that lighter isn't better, you brake quicker, you corner quicker and you accelerate quicker, you use less fuel, you use less brakes and you use less rubber.

[MyH22A]

Originally Posted by doo0T!doo0T!

There's no point in arguing that lighter isn't better, you brake quicker, you corner quicker and you accelerate quicker, you use less fuel, you use less brakes and you use less rubber.

Well said.

[Kiwi XTR2]

Originally Posted by doo0T!doo0T!

There's no point in arguing that lighter isn't better, you brake quicker, you corner quicker and you accelerate quicker, you use less fuel, you use less brakes and you use less rubber.

Your real name is Colin Chapman, isn't it

[doo0T!doo0T!]

Originally Posted by Kiwi XTR2

Your real name is Colin Chapman, isn't it

No impersonating deity is blasphemous

[Moclov]

Originally Posted by Kiwi XTR2

Your real name is Colin Chapman, isn't it

Thanks, I hope you realise that comment set me off on an hour long Wikipedia/YouTube binge looking up Colin Chapman, then Lotus' old Formula 1 cars, then ground effects, then racing car crashes, then plane crashes...

*Gets back to work*

[Colza]

Baha, i do that to

[Matty]

Originally Posted by Moclov

Thanks, I hope you realise that comment set me off on an hour long Wikipedia/YouTube binge looking up Colin Chapman, then Lotus' old Formula 1 cars, then ground effects, then racing car crashes, then plane crashes...

*Gets back to work*

...and I hope you hung you head in shame at not knowing who Colin Chapman was in the first place...