F1 Motor Pictures Pictures (56k)

Horny_Devil · 15th April 2008, 08:34 PM

Taken from http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42681

Kelsonmassif · 15th April 2008, 08:51 PM

thats just sick 8O

AL- · 15th April 2008, 08:59 PM

would fit nicely in my dc2 lol

4VTECN · 15th April 2008, 09:00 PM

OMFFFFFFFFFFFG

Hayce · 15th April 2008, 09:04 PM

Oh sweet baby jesus.

Makes my JE/Eagle gear look like absolute shit.

[QUIKdc2] · 15th April 2008, 09:06 PM

The amount of time and engineering that goes into these things is freakin amazing!!

b16a2 · 15th April 2008, 09:29 PM

wow thats a sqaut looking engine.. rods are so short and pistons so big 8O, kind aalways knew they were over sqaure, but man its amazing to look at, and the piston skirts.. so short

edit: holy crap the 2005 motor made 928ps.. and i cant imagine a lrage drivetrain loss from these cars but even at 15% thats still a whopping 788hp from a 3 litre = thats 262hp per litre 8O -- and it only weighed 97kg.. now thats lite :twisted:

MMJA · 15th April 2008, 11:25 PM

Wow those engines are amazing! The pinnacle of motorsport engineering.

GecKo · 16th April 2008, 07:16 AM

^-- What the hell is going on here..

Hayce · 16th April 2008, 07:22 AM

I thought it was a trophy?

xsiv · 16th April 2008, 08:57 AM

sick sick and sick again. look at the pistons. extreame

XPLOIT · 16th April 2008, 09:07 AM

Awesome pics! Damn!

Gudgen · 16th April 2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b16a2

wow thats a sqaut looking engine.. rods are so short and pistons so big 8O, kind aalways knew they were over sqaure, but man its amazing to look at, and the piston skirts.. so short

edit: holy crap the 2005 motor made 928ps.. and i cant imagine a lrage drivetrain loss from these cars but even at 15% thats still a whopping 788hp from a 3 litre = thats 262hp per litre 8O -- and it only weighed 97kg.. now thats lite :twisted:

rumour is that the current bmw motor runs a cam-less, that right, a cam-less valvetrain. each valve is electronically controlled. each valve has a solenoid on top. the powerband is where-ever you want it.

no vavle-train loss through the 4 rotating camshalfs.

amazing no??

H-series · 16th April 2008, 11:59 AM

Those are some freaking sweet pieces of metal lol. Ive got a piston from Denny Hulme's Brabham F1 car which won the Monaco GP in 1967. Some of those power figures are just ridiculous for such small displacement, but i guess thats whats possible when millions upon millions are spent on r&d.

GecKo · 16th April 2008, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gudgen

rumour is that the current bmw motor runs a cam-less, that right, a cam-less valvetrain. each valve is electronically controlled. each valve has a solenoid on top. the powerband is where-ever you want it.

no vavle-train loss through the 4 rotating camshalfs.

amazing no??

If that is the case, that's some pretty impressive technology improvements over the past several years!

I remember reading about that not to long ago, it was a 'In Theory' idea at the time, because they hadn't figured out how to make a perfect seal and make what ever was making the seal strong enough, heat resistant and light enough to still be able to move at speed!

Think what that sort of technology will open up in terms of both power and emissions!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayce

I thought it was a trophy?

How the fuck did I miss the base of that, lol

ops:

fade to black · 16th April 2008, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gudgen

Quote:

Originally Posted by b16a2

wow thats a sqaut looking engine.. rods are so short and pistons so big 8O, kind aalways knew they were over sqaure, but man its amazing to look at, and the piston skirts.. so short

edit: holy crap the 2005 motor made 928ps.. and i cant imagine a lrage drivetrain loss from these cars but even at 15% thats still a whopping 788hp from a 3 litre = thats 262hp per litre 8O -- and it only weighed 97kg.. now thats lite :twisted:

rumour is that the current bmw motor runs a cam-less, that right, a cam-less valvetrain. each valve is electronically controlled. each valve has a solenoid on top. the powerband is where-ever you want it.

no vavle-train loss through the 4 rotating camshalfs.

amazing no??

http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ftpw012.html

It will be good for everthing. You could get better economy out of things like earth moving equipment and construction machinery.

I'm wondering though, how often would they need to be replaced, and what happens when the solanoid fails? Will they jamn in posistion?

I'm guessing they will test and test and test, figure out the life span and then replace them at a set interval like a cam belt.

GecKo · 16th April 2008, 12:25 PM

Oh right - Still have valves, just not cams. Still, epic.

Gudgen · 16th April 2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GecKo

Oh right - Still have valves, just not cams. Still, epic.

no vavlesprings, nor retainers.

Colza · 16th April 2008, 01:46 PM

Active valve trains have been around for years. Mostly limited by speed and linearity.

I didnt think they were allowed in F1?

That crazy rod is for a W engine?

XPLOIT · 16th April 2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colza

Active valve trains have been around for years. Mostly limited by speed and linearity.

I didnt think they were allowed in F1?

That crazy rod is for a W engine?

A 'W' engine is pretty much 2 'V' engines beside each other.

The crazy rod is a trophy

Colza · 16th April 2008, 02:20 PM

Im sure they didnt built it specifically to be a trophy. Its a piece of something.

I reckon it belongs in a 3 bank W engine something along the lines of this:

Or this:

Demon · 16th April 2008, 04:46 PM

all i can say.... is JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!

b16a2 · 16th April 2008, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon

all i can say.... is JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!

thats just terrible

Horny_Devil · 16th April 2008, 05:59 PM

just a little over the top mike

Logger · 16th April 2008, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fade to black

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gudgen

Quote:

Originally Posted by b16a2

wow thats a sqaut looking engine.. rods are so short and pistons so big 8O, kind aalways knew they were over sqaure, but man its amazing to look at, and the piston skirts.. so short

edit: holy crap the 2005 motor made 928ps.. and i cant imagine a lrage drivetrain loss from these cars but even at 15% thats still a whopping 788hp from a 3 litre = thats 262hp per litre 8O -- and it only weighed 97kg.. now thats lite :twisted:

rumour is that the current bmw motor runs a cam-less, that right, a cam-less valvetrain. each valve is electronically controlled. each valve has a solenoid on top. the powerband is where-ever you want it.

no vavle-train loss through the 4 rotating camshalfs.

amazing no??

http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ftpw012.html

It will be good for everthing. You could get better economy out of things like earth moving equipment and construction machinery.

I'm wondering though, how often would they need to be replaced, and what happens when the solanoid fails? Will they jamn in posistion?

I'm guessing they will test and test and test, figure out the life span and then replace them at a set interval like a cam belt.

Apparently Caterpillar is developing a camless Diesel truck engine, would make for a totally flat 'torque curve'

15th April 2008, 08:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
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b16a2 Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,284 Location: Howick	wow thats a sqaut looking engine.. rods are so short and pistons so big 8O, kind aalways knew they were over sqaure, but man its amazing to look at, and the piston skirts.. so short edit: holy crap the 2005 motor made 928ps.. and i cant imagine a lrage drivetrain loss from these cars but even at 15% thats still a whopping 788hp from a 3 litre = thats 262hp per litre 8O -- and it only weighed 97kg.. now thats lite :twisted: __________________ www.ISLMotorsport.co.nz --- Pm me for CUSTOM FABRICATION; headers, manifolds, exhausts, turbo setups, Chasis Prep etc. MyWork ___________________JESUS Loves U___

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H-series Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 103 Location: Dunedin	Those are some freaking sweet pieces of metal lol. Ive got a piston from Denny Hulme's Brabham F1 car which won the Monaco GP in 1967. Some of those power figures are just ridiculous for such small displacement, but i guess thats whats possible when millions upon millions are spent on r&d. __________________ Im the Sublime Giant with a Right to the Crown. Im the Divine Tyrant and im Striking you Down (Vinnie Paz JMT)

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Colza Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,694 Location: Palmerston North	Active valve trains have been around for years. Mostly limited by speed and linearity. I didnt think they were allowed in F1? That crazy rod is for a W engine? __________________ I'm in ur loop, iterating ur variable!

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Colza Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,694 Location: Palmerston North	Im sure they didnt built it specifically to be a trophy. Its a piece of something. I reckon it belongs in a 3 bank W engine something along the lines of this: Or this: __________________ I'm in ur loop, iterating ur variable!

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