Went to change my MTF today...

timmiblc · 19th July 2007, 05:27 PM

Undid the plug that drains the 'box and guess what came out?

Nothing 8O

Absolutely nothing 8O 8O

Did I come close to killing a greabox or what? Seeing as how I was changing it for Monday's track day

Shadow Sol · 19th July 2007, 05:34 PM

yeah that really cant be good aye.... is it pretty noisey?

americ_ian · 19th July 2007, 05:35 PM

LOL

timmi timmi timmi

are u sure ya undid the right bolt

otherwise...... damn.... how long u been driving it for?

timmiblc · 19th July 2007, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by americ_ian

LOL

timmi timmi timmi

are u sure ya undid the right bolt

otherwise...... damn.... how long u been driving it for?

:!:

Of course I undid the right bolt! If I didn't, there's somewhere that's not the gearbox with 2 1/2 litres of MTF in it

I noticed it had started whining at a track day back in March, but haven't really driven it since so I guess I'm lucky huh?

I had also noticed changing down from 3rd to 2nd was crunching like a bastard so decided to change it.

Looks like just in time 8O

americ_ian · 19th July 2007, 05:45 PM

is it sweet now?

Logger · 19th July 2007, 05:49 PM

Well at least you didn't overheat it eh :wink:

the_chad · 19th July 2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by timmiblc

I had also noticed changing down from 3rd to 2nd was crunching like a bastard so decided to change it.

Looks like just in time 8O

If its crunching then its most likely too late... New oil will help, but won't fix the gearbox

Frost · 19th July 2007, 06:18 PM

Stop talking about it and sell it "as new" on trademe :ph34r:

timmiblc · 19th July 2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by americ_ian

is it sweet now?

Dunno, haven't driven it yet - family matters call.

Logger - yeah for sure mang can definitely do without another overheat, especially if it's the 'box!

timmiblc · 19th July 2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the_chad

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmiblc

I had also noticed changing down from 3rd to 2nd was crunching like a bastard so decided to change it.

Looks like just in time 8O

If its crunching then its most likely too late... New oil will help, but won't fix the gearbox

But it was in the rain at Puke, did four or five laps only, and it only crunched twice so

*crosses fingers*

Then it was sweet for town driving.

timmiblc · 19th July 2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frost

Stop talking about it and sell it "as new" on trademe :ph34r:

Coupe-R · 19th July 2007, 10:02 PM

so you undid the bottom square bolt that you need to put a 3/8 ratchet into to undo it?
Nothing came out well their would only be like 100ml in there maybe? and the rest that is stuck on the parts.

easy way to kill the box especially racing. (could have made your car a little faster while it lasted tho with no oil to slow it down

)

Trivium · 20th July 2007, 02:12 AM

Pfffft its mad racer styles..no oil in the engine or gearbox for ultimate weight savings

Horny_Devil · 20th July 2007, 05:53 AM

8O

hope its gonna be going alright for monday

was really looking forward to going down to taupo

timmiblc · 20th July 2007, 07:17 AM

Come on guys it's not like the box seized or anything. If it dies it dies. The Chad said, it may already be too late for the box. If it is, it blows. If it's not, it won't.

Not going to stop me giving it death on Monday!

dazznz · 20th July 2007, 07:28 AM

I reckon you prolly have undone the wrond bolt.......you didnt listen tom my intructions clear enough. lol

timmiblc · 20th July 2007, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazznz

I reckon you prolly have undone the wrond bolt.......you didnt listen tom my intructions clear enough. lol

Riiight...

Followed instructions AND pics from Honda Tech - sorry to burst your bubble

americ_ian · 20th July 2007, 09:08 AM

the gearbox oil saw the quads coming and ran....

Coupe-R · 20th July 2007, 09:18 AM

Ok now one question. Since you have had this car have you changed the oil?

Gearboxes don't burn oil

So the last owner drained it and never topped it up, or you filled it with 2.5L last time and its leaked out cause of a hairline crack somewhere or a leaking seal?

CamB · 20th July 2007, 09:45 AM

Yeah - good point!

You should have MTF everywhere down there if it has been leaking out. I mean coating the back of the box, engine, underside, etc. Friggin mess everywhere.

timmiblc · 20th July 2007, 10:00 AM

Last owner drained it by the looks - I never thought to check it (my bad) until now. Since it's parked in the shed usually I would have noticed 2.5 litres of oil all over the floor or at least some sort of leak. Underside of the gearbox is clean too, and inside the clutch housing looks ok, nothing out of the ordinary. Might steam clean the underside just to make shure though.

Hopefully it'll hold together until the close gear kit arrives

After that it won't matter any more :wink:

CamB · 20th July 2007, 10:05 AM

You'd know - I had a moderate leak in my BMW's transmission and only lost about half the fluid (it only came out under load, especially at the track - not sitting in the garage) and it covered everything halfway back under the car.

2HEKTK · 20th July 2007, 10:06 AM

Should replace the gearbox oil before every track day or at least every second track day, thats if you drive it really hard.

ITR_cam · 20th July 2007, 10:06 AM

umm just a thought does jacking it up at the front cause the oil to run to the back of the box? im not sure as i did mine with 2 jacks and raised it level so i could get the right amount back in etc using the level indicator hole..

Deanis · 20th July 2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HEKTK

Should replace the gearbox oil before every track day or at least every second track day, thats if you drive it really hard.

why is this? does it go off when is heated up heaps or something?

19th July 2007, 05:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
timmiblc Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,894 Location: Auckland	Went to change my MTF today... Undid the plug that drains the 'box and guess what came out? Nothing 8O Absolutely nothing 8O 8O Did I come close to killing a greabox or what? Seeing as how I was changing it for Monday's track day __________________ Soichiro Honda's bastard child EK9

19th July 2007, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Shadow Sol Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,011 Location: Hamilton	yeah that really cant be good aye.... is it pretty noisey? __________________ daily CBR125R - toy H22 EG

19th July 2007, 05:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
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19th July 2007, 05:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
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19th July 2007, 06:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
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19th July 2007, 10:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,965 Location: Tauranga	so you undid the bottom square bolt that you need to put a 3/8 ratchet into to undo it? Nothing came out well their would only be like 100ml in there maybe? and the rest that is stuck on the parts. easy way to kill the box especially racing. (could have made your car a little faster while it lasted tho with no oil to slow it down )

20th July 2007, 02:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
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20th July 2007, 05:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
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20th July 2007, 07:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
timmiblc Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,894 Location: Auckland	Come on guys it's not like the box seized or anything. If it dies it dies. The Chad said, it may already be too late for the box. If it is, it blows. If it's not, it won't. Not going to stop me giving it death on Monday! __________________ Soichiro Honda's bastard child EK9

20th July 2007, 07:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
dazznz Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,533 Location: Auckland	I reckon you prolly have undone the wrond bolt.......you didnt listen tom my intructions clear enough. lol __________________ www.yorkmotorsport.co.nz - www.badboy.co.nz www.theblackhawk.co.nz www.queenb.co.nz (Online home shoping)

20th July 2007, 09:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
americ_ian Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,937 Location: Hamilton	the gearbox oil saw the quads coming and ran.... __________________ Ex D16a Ex b16a, ex b18cr, ex h22a turbo, ex h2b, ex k20a.... Current: F20c!!!!!! 12.8 @ 171.88 1.7 60ft!

20th July 2007, 09:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,965 Location: Tauranga	Ok now one question. Since you have had this car have you changed the oil? Gearboxes don't burn oil So the last owner drained it and never topped it up, or you filled it with 2.5L last time and its leaked out cause of a hairline crack somewhere or a leaking seal?

20th July 2007, 09:45 AM	#20 (permalink)
CamB Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 199 Location: Auckland	Yeah - good point! You should have MTF everywhere down there if it has been leaking out. I mean coating the back of the box, engine, underside, etc. Friggin mess everywhere.

20th July 2007, 10:00 AM	#21 (permalink)
timmiblc Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,894 Location: Auckland	Last owner drained it by the looks - I never thought to check it (my bad) until now. Since it's parked in the shed usually I would have noticed 2.5 litres of oil all over the floor or at least some sort of leak. Underside of the gearbox is clean too, and inside the clutch housing looks ok, nothing out of the ordinary. Might steam clean the underside just to make shure though. Hopefully it'll hold together until the close gear kit arrives After that it won't matter any more :wink: __________________ Soichiro Honda's bastard child EK9

20th July 2007, 10:05 AM	#22 (permalink)
CamB Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 199 Location: Auckland	You'd know - I had a moderate leak in my BMW's transmission and only lost about half the fluid (it only came out under load, especially at the track - not sitting in the garage) and it covered everything halfway back under the car.

20th July 2007, 10:06 AM	#23 (permalink)
2HEKTK Team NZH: Mod 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,509 Location: Taupo	Should replace the gearbox oil before every track day or at least every second track day, thats if you drive it really hard. __________________ No roll cage, No harness, No run-offs, No brakes - www.nzoffshore.co.nz [H17] Sonic 1900 SS BF150 2.4 litre DOHC VTEC - Tarmac is for pussy's

20th July 2007, 10:06 AM	#24 (permalink)
ITR_cam Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,280 Location: Pukekohe	umm just a thought does jacking it up at the front cause the oil to run to the back of the box? im not sure as i did mine with 2 jacks and raised it level so i could get the right amount back in etc using the level indicator hole..

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