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Old 16th April 2006, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Chipping an NSX ...?

Mate of mine wants to know who sells 'chips' for 91 3.0ltr NSX. Would he better to get a link+? then who in canterbury area would be best to go to to tune it?

He wants to get the exhaust system done at the same time, so any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 16th April 2006, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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PM Pyth0n and ask him as hes the Honda ECU guru he may be able to help u
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Old 16th April 2006, 06:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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sorry to link lovers but link is... ops:

seen a few cars with the link ecu and havent been impressed with it...
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Old 16th April 2006, 06:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If your mate can afford an NSX he can afford to spend a few (or a bit more than a few) $$$ on proper aftermarket engine management a la Motec or similar! A simple chip would be a little on the gay side for such a magnificent automobile. I'd doubt anyone over here would be able to 'chip' an NSX anyway, or be bothered to, it's not like you're gonna sell dozens of them in lil' old NZ...

Without some reasonably flash intake/exhaust and cam mods I'd wager that you're not going to get a whole lot of extra grunt out of re-tuning your engine management anyhow. Tell him it'll always be as gutless as it is and convince him to straight swap it for my 13.7-second-quarter-mile-super-win-EG6...
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Old 16th April 2006, 07:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hey man, if you like you can come into the shop and i can go over heaps of options with you guys, from chips to fuel controllers, and any and all stand alone systems. We can get basically anything.

NSX is a very well tuned car from factory so you going to have to get a good exhaust and computer setup if you hope to make any gains. I can get you any Jap exhaust/headers and computers and American stuff aswell so whatever you guys decide on we can sort out.

i'll put it on my account so its nice and cheap :wink:

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Old 16th April 2006, 08:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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if you can afford to buy a NSX you can afford to put a top quality ECU in it. And i dont mean Link either!

The NSX is tuned to perfection from factory so a super duper set my vtex point 4,500 rpm and take out the rev limiter chip is going to cause the performance to go backwards! So buy something really decent.

Also with the exhaust, i'd try import a reputable Japanese brand because the NSX is such a decent car and you should do better then a "pitstop special" system. Go for a tested and proven system from Mugen or a big name brand like that.

Good luck and enjoy a beutiful car!!
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Old 16th April 2006, 09:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think he really just wants to open up the exhaust a bit so he can hear the motor a bit more. He was quoted $4000 to do so with an ecu modification here in Chch, so we are looking for alternate info and quotes. :wink:
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Old 17th April 2006, 05:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I think he really just wants to open up the exhaust a bit so he can hear the motor a bit more. He was quoted $4000 to do so with an ecu modification here in Chch, so we are looking for alternate info and quotes. :wink:
I'd check out www.41.co.nz or pm mac and see what he could try sort you especially Exhaust wise.
Like others have said i'd definatly be going for something top notch from a top brand
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Old 17th April 2006, 12:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Or you could go to an exhaust shop and get a custom one made for cheaper.
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Old 17th April 2006, 02:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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its an nsx, i wouldnt be cutting corners
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Old 17th April 2006, 05:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Or you could go to an exhaust shop and get a custom one made for cheaper.
I doubt there's many exhaust shops around that would be able to match the quality (not to mention the amount of R&D) of a name-brand japanese exhaust.
As everyone else said, it's an expensive car so it deserves expensive quality modifications, skimping on parts like exhaust and engine management might make you lose power.
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Old 17th April 2006, 08:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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with an exhuast for an nsx, i'd go for mugen or spoon, they would have the r & d behind it all, or chuck a pod filter on
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Old 17th April 2006, 09:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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with an exhuast for an nsx, i'd go for mugen or spoon, they would have the r & d behind it all, or chuck a pod filter on
Spoon dont have an exhaust system for the NSX in it's product line up.

exhaust's are not overly complicated. All you need to worry about is pipe diametre and mufflers.

A Comptech cat back system costs $1,249.00US (http://www.kingmotorsports.com/produ...13&vehicle=NSX) which is: pipe, one resonator, and one muffler. Pipe is pipe, a resonator is a resonator.

don't forget we're talking about a mid engined car here.. it's not going to need a lot of pipe.
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Old 17th April 2006, 10:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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5grand for a J's racing titanium exhaust
http://www.fortyone.co.nz/parts/view/12679.html
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Old 18th April 2006, 10:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Is he keen on selling the car ?

Looking for a reasonably priced NZ registered one as a donar car for the next project

Let me know if he's keen and if so what he wants for it and some more details on it.

Sorry back to thread..........As someone else has suggested.....I'd say Motec, or similar level ECU would be your only option. Link G series ECU's are OK for some, but not for this situation or anything you want to be serious about, but they have their place.

If it was mine I wouldn't put anything other than a good Japanese exhaust on it and a good ECU but it's not our money
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Old 18th April 2006, 11:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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He needs a new clutch too, and this is some of the prices 41.co.nz have got


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ARC Titanium Muffler

The ARC Titanium muffler replaces the stock item and provides weight, power and styling benefits. Firstly Titanium is extremely strong but very light weight – which helps increase acceleration, deceleration and turning performance. Secondly the straight through highly efficient design prevents power loss from the build up of gases in the exhaust system. This has a positive side effect in that less fuel is used to create the same amount of power. It also looks fantastic!

NZ$7180 incl. G.S.T and Shipping


Two 3-1 Brushed Stainless Steel Headers

DC Sports 3 into 1 header systems are dyno tested to outperform all comparable header systems on the market. Extensive research and development goes into each system to ensure the best fit, finish and performance for your vehicle. DC Sports header systems are precision bent on our CNC mandrel benders using data acquired from our non-contact digitizing scanner. Their flanges are CNC machined, they attach the flange to the header pipes, then machine-grind the flange mating surface to ensure a leak-free seal. Their state-of-the-art manufacturing process ensures superior quality and a perfect fit with every header system they make. CAD-rendered 3-into-1 design maximizes power across RPM range

NZ$2840 incl. G.S.T and Shipping


ATS Soft Type Carbon Clutch

This is a Twin plate clutch with 1350kg's of clamping pressure. The Soft type clutch provides a stock like clutch operation without sacrificing any other excellent carbon clutch characteristics. If you mainly drive on the street and do not push your car to the limit frequently, this soft type might be for you. It is gentle to your motor, transmission, and driver. The soft type uses non carbon coated floating plate(s). The carbon plates are same as the standard type

NZ$4190 incl. G.S.T and Shipping


Plug-N-Play Engine Management System

AEM’s Plug & Play Engine Management System (EMS) will forever change the way you look at and perform fuel injection tuning! This user-programmable system plugs directly into a vehicle’s factory ECU harness and requires no additional wiring or hardware. (Some adapting hardware may be required for non-factory forced induction vehicles.) Windows™-based software (2000, NT, 98, 95, ME) makes the task of copying, viewing and manipulating data as simple as a click of the mouse. User-defined templates are easily configurable and enable tuners to establish “quick keys” to any pertinent information during the tuning process.The AEM EMS’s infinitely adjustable software allows tuners to program virtually any combination of engine control, power adders and auxiliary devices, and accurately deliver proper amounts of fuel and correct ignition timing for ANY boost level or operating condition.

NZ$3090 incl. G.S.T and Shipping
I recon he's gonna freak....lol , Jason is sorting some deals out for us. So thanks for the feedback guys :wink:
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Old 19th April 2006, 12:59 AM   #17 (permalink)
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He needs a new clutch too, and this is some of the prices 41.co.nz have got


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......gosh @ large parts quotes......
I recon he's gonna freak....lol , Jason is sorting some deals out for us. So thanks for the feedback guys :wink:
Surely thats what you gotta expect when you own an NSX.
Parts for similarly sized JDM "supercars" (ie: GTR, Supra) aren't exactally cheap either. And "custom" bits that make good gains are probably gonna be quite pricey too.
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Old 19th April 2006, 08:51 AM   #18 (permalink)
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It seems to be the archilles heal of expensive Hondas - the prices for parts are hiked up a lot. The S2000 and NSX suffer from this. It's fairly simple why the prices are so high - let's look at a titanium system:

Assuming the NSX is a low volume production car (not many are made, when compared to the likes of the Civic..) the initial market for such a part is small. Therefore the design, development and testing costs need to be recouped on a theoritically smaller market, and therefore the base price is set higher.

Furthermore, prices for systems are often set when a company can produce (say) 300 of them and have them sit around at most for (say) 6 months. If you were to make 300 for the NSX in one go that would be great - the cost would come down but they sure as hell wouldn't sell in 6 months - therefore the outlay of expenses would kill you So the exhausts are manufactured in small runs, which, per unit, costs more than mass producing them.

The same goes for the S2000 - while the floor length and design is not that different from a DC2, the price of an average exhaust is a lot higher. It's not as high as NSX systems, but it's higher than the DC2 despite their growing popularity in the US.

Lastly the base cost of a car also comes into play. The belief is that "if a person can afford a $70k car, they'll be expecting to pay $3k for an exhaust". I don't like this mantra - just as I don't like the stepped tax rates for New Zealanders (it follows the same logic )
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